o.k. after much thought I've decided to try doing some character drawings. I had a lot of fun doing them on the SRartgroup and see that some of those members have done well here. So I'll give it a try.
Please be mindful that my art is dear to me, that my style is more for comic books and although I accept critiques I do not accept attacks, or overly harsh comments. Second, I work a full-time job and I have a lovely daughter to take care of (although we spend time drawing together a lot) so time of completion could take a couple of days. Any art I do is free, unless you want more that a B/W image. Lastly I would love an opportunity to sharpen my skills.
If you want a sample of my artwork before submitting see http://holychampion1.deviantart.com/ or visit the SRartgroup and look for Ratchaser72

For those just viewing this site here is the completed drawings of the following commissions:
Skate http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/48018791/
Vincent http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/48043037/
Gabryel http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/48095793/
Anubis http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/48304015/
Gabryel & Anubis http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/48365640/
Leela http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/48718233/
'The Warrior' http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/48949532/
"Doc" Shanes http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/49193150/
"Space Marine1" http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/49781184/
Kyoto Kid Americana http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/50000544/
Kyoto Kid http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/50117747/
The Mech http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/50118033/
Revised Skate http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/50374893/
Lindsay Cartwright http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/50505085/
Lana Lane http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/52382734/
Fat Samurai http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/52382934/
Jean & the Mob http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/53308503/
Spirit & Speed http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/55923672/
The Zapper http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/57462225/
Shev http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/58723574/
The Pirate Monty Fry http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/58870000/
Number One http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/59168391/
Raven http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/61666125/
Scope http://holychampion1.deviantart.com/art/Sc...cope47-62187646
Phoenix http://holychampion1.deviantart.com/art/ph...hoenix-64977347
Blades Edge http://holychampion1.deviantart.com/art/bl...-edge3-79463300
Shadow Gamer http://holychampion1.deviantart.com/art/Shadowgamer-80001741
Aziz http://holychampion1.deviantart.com/art/Aziz-81665664
Cougar & Reaper http://holychampion1.deviantart.com/art/Re...ougar2-84296164

Some of your stuff is really solid. I like the shading on Lantern, and especially the guy in the background on the "Agent Stalker" pic. I like the look, and the "accessories". Guy in front, for critique, proportions need a bit of work, like the arms. I had that problem a lot. Got some good art/anatomy books that have helped along those lines. The front guys gun perspective looks good.

On the one with the three shots of the guy, I like the perspective one. I suck at those most of the time. tHe right hand fist looks good. Center pick waist looks a bit thin, but the crouched shot looks good. Again, gun looks good.

I try and draw a bit to, although I don't have anyhting up on sites, except for the one that Grinder works on. Hope I'm not being harsh. I ask for critiques to from my friends and always cringe, so I know where you're coming from.

My tip is just to keep drawing, try different styles just to get different perspectives, and work on the things you aren't as good at. And look at an artist that you like. Me, my favorite is Brom. Keep 'em comin' man.

Okay... Hmm.

The character I have in mind is an attractive human female (Homo Sapiens Sapiens) of Japanese descent, roughly 21 years of age and slender, a decker with the wire to be a good gun bunny. I'd like to see your take on her, but I won't describe a scene - I find artists work best with some creative liscene. However, some points:

1: She's a raver with style. Prefers outlandish clothes, and is equally happy with clothes that conceal and clothes that reveal. Is not shy about exposing her body, either. (Her favorite coat is an enormously heavy, tailor-made trenchcoat that squeezes her breasts, but flares out at the bottom. But she could be wearing anything.)
2: She's most comfortable with pistols and automatics (that's SMGs and assault rifles for those SR3 fans), as far as weapons, but can use rifles, shotguns, etcetera, just fine. (Her weapon of choice is an Ares Predator)
3: She dosen't use melee weapons, but she's competant in the martial art discipline of Aikido, a discipline that emphasizes leverage and throws and using one's opponant's strength against them. As such, she's very graceful.
4: She's an attention hound. If it cannot be done showy, she pouts. She even makes sneaking look stylish.
5: No jewelery, short, medium-brown hair. (For the shading, I mentioned the shade)
7: If you're an SR4 fan, feel free to draw her with some AR overlays.
8: She's a conspiracy theorist and a huge fan of The Matrix. Should you decide to draw a full VR image, that's the kind of background she'd have.
9: If she wears a hat, it's a brown fedora (like Indiana Jones' hat)
10: She prefers women, and isen't shy about that fact. (I dunno how you'd need this, but I just thought I'd toss it out there).

Can I request one?

Vincent is an Elven ex-Tir military academy brat who wears his military long coat over fetish-club gear (bondage leather with straps and rings). He has fibreoptic cables for hair, colored black which are kept slicked back as best as can be, and a pair of Ghost In The Shell inspired eye-covers. He carries one of those monoswords in a scabbard around his waist, and usually dual-wields browning max-powers. He looks sad most of the time.

Sure, let's see if I can get the creative juices flowing again. The mental picture is a bit grainy, so bear with me (on the upside, that leaves a lot of room for creative liscence on your end ). And yes, I'm well aware that this concept is something of a rip-off, the last name is a dead giveaway.

Gabryel Sena-A Hermetic Mage that specializes in fire magic, red-haired, slight, rather short, probably around 5' 4", 19 years old. She doesn't have much in the way of curves, only slightly around the hips. She's almost always rather distant, as if she wants to remove herself from her surroundings. She's most commonly seen wearing denim jeans that hug what curve she does have with a Colt Manhunter that she rarely uses (heavy pistol if you're not familiar with SR4) holstered at her belt. She wears a dark T-shirt with a worn leather jacket. On her hand is a plain silver ring and she wears a teardrop pendant around her neck.

Her facial features are slightly angular. Eyes are a little deep-set, green (not that it matters, since you're doing B/W). I was never good at faces, so go to town. If you think background material would help, let me know.

And another if you so choose:

Anubis (haven't decided on a real name yet), average build, around 6 ft, 23. He's a shaman of the Dark King (think Hades or the Jade Emperor). While his demeanor seems rather dark and brooding due to his looks, he's actually inquistive and charismatic. His hair is so black that it shines blue in certain light and rather long, about to his shoulders. He dresses for street life-worn dark jeans and long-sleeve shirt with two buttons at the neck and a long coat (brown) that's insulated for cold Seattle nights. He keeps a Colt L36 in a holster at his back that he rarely uses (doesn't trust it) and two throwing knives in release-holsters on his forearms hidden by his coat sleeves. We wears a bronze earring and a plain copper ring on his left hand. Slung over his back is a plain short sword (a one-hander, 40 in.) that is a weapon focus. Unlike most weapon foci, his is very plain looking.

His facial features are more rounded. He's usually got a "I know something you don't" smile.

Glad I could provide some practice. Wish I could've given better descriptions. Can't wait to see what you come up with.

Awesome! I'm on it. I will work on Shadowdragon8685's stuff starting today, should have a rough by this evening. I will post a link here but will post the art in Deviantart for now. Then I continue with the submissions. All of them. They all are great descriptions to work with.

Thanks.

Let me know when you've got something, I'm eager to see it. Can't seem to get the characters out of my head, so I'd be nice to put a face to the voices

Edit: almost forgot. Gabryel wears a pair of reading glasses that are rigged with vision enhancements (Image link, thermo, vision mag that sort of thing). If she's not actively wearing them (which isn't often), they're usually in her pocket.

Anubis has pretty much the same thing, except they're sunglasses and he usually keeps them perched on his head if he isn't wearing them.

I get a Dante vibe, but having no idea who Hironobu Sakaguchi is, I couldn't say for sure.

Ah. Good for him.

o.k. here she is, Shadowdragon8685's female decker, it's just pencils for now. I'm posting pencils first to get an idea if th drawing suits you, once we agree (and I've made changes) I'll ink it. So let me know.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/47928803/

Very nice work. I really like the detail.

Really nice. Scratch that, stellar. There isn't much I can offer in the way of criticism.

Can't wait to see the others.

please do. Starting on calvin hobbes' sketch while I await a reponse from shadowdragon8685. Also if you want to give comments or recomendatios for any work I do for u PM me its easier for me. Thanks in advance, and thank you all for the kind comments.

Hmmmmm...

I like the work, but I'm afraid I do have criticisms - not about your work, which is top-notch, but about the style.

1: Skate is supposed to be an attractive woman, not something that looks like a pug sired her mother and she was rammed facefirst into a wall as a child. She kind of has a bizzare egg-thing going on for the face, which is a major turn-off. Could you maybe... I dunno, it's hard to say what's wrong exactly. I think her neck is too long, her face too oval, and her lips too small, maybe? It's easy to say it's wrong, but it's hard to say how to fix it.

2: The eyes look... Very bizzare. Skate's eyes are non-obvious cybereyes, those look very obvious. Her eyes are supposed to look, well, human.

3: What is that above her left eyebrow? I can't tell, but I did specify no piercings, and no tatoos.

4: Skate's Widow's Dress (which I assume you've attempted to model here) cost over 10,000 , and is very Tres Chic. She would not patch it as is for some reason common in SR3 art; she'd send it to a tailors for a 2,000 repair job if it got damaged. (Which it well might do; it's very effective body armor)

5: Skate's (obviously, if she has 20K to plunk down on over-expensive rave ware slash body armor) not quite rich, but not at all poorly-off, and that cyberdeck looks like a keyboard. Maybe make it more, shall we say, futuristic? Eliminate the keyboard pattern altogether, make it rounder maybe, with fewer buttons but bigger? (Don't forget a port for the hitcher jack)

6: She's supposed to be a petite Asian woman. While I appreciate a pair of big Cs as much as everyone else - believe me - they're inappropriate large for this character. Could you give her a breast reduction? Say, a small B or even an A?


Now, on to what I DO like, and there's a lot of it:
1: The shoulder pauldrons. The original coat I was thinking of dosen't have them, but I think they do nicely, actually. Maybe make them a bit more rakish, though?

2: The submachine gun. Looks very good as it is, beautiful.

3: The crossdraw pistol holder, I love it. Maybe remove the snap-catch, though? Skate's had to quickdraw more than once, and woulden't want anything getting in the way. (Angle it forward a bit, if it's not too much trouble?)

4: The cuffs. Absoloutely, perfectly beautiful. Those are how good cutfs should appear.

5: The hair. Most people cna't resist making her hair longer than short, but this is perfect. The style, however, could maybe use some work - Skate goes for a "deliberately unkempt" look, with bangs longer than the rest of it (Framing her face).

6: The bodice. It dosen't match the original source, but it's great, I like it, I love it.

7: The huge collar. I didn't even mention it, but you knew to put it on. Magnificant! (Maybe add some buttons to the front of it?)

The clothes are pretty good, as are the guns. The cyber deck I like, sincec a lot of them have been pictured that way, and even the fictions pieces (novels) say that many decks (like Dodger's for instance) have keyboards.But liek I said, as always, you're guns look good.

I take it the

...o.k. perfect. The face... I agonized over that for a while...I'll change it. The eyes were the worst and I think you maybe right about the proportion of head and neck... maybe that will eliminate the problem I was having with the eyes. The things above her eye, data jacks (I guess I better stop thinking old school when doing this which is the problem with the deck.) I wasn't to sure about the clothing, again a matter of perception, you see when I think of a 'raver' I think 'punk rocker'. I'll change the pants. What about the combat boots? Breast reduction I can do. Although hard to tell I'm sure the jacket follows the same line as the bodice underneath and at the hips flares out, at least that is what I was going for. I love the recomendations for the collar and shoulder pauldrons, we'll do. Lastly, the hair, awesome that will help in gettng the face right.
Thanks for the honesty, it helps me to improve and gives me great fuel to work with, I also thank you for adding things that you liked, this shows me your interest in the work.
soo... back to work should have another draft by tommorrow. Look for it.

calvin hobbes... here's your first sketch.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/47943839/

Second one I like too. I liek the little details, like the coat being pulled up by the katana. Any kind of movement is usally harder for most folks, but you seem to like it better than stationary.

Clothing, or more importantly, knwoing what oyu want to draw for clothign seems to be a strong point for you. That's good.

The head/face needs a bit of work still, as does general muscle placements. Nose is good, everythign in it's place. Bit of work on the general head though and ear placement. I like the pic. Keep em coming.

Okay, "Punk Rocker" isen't quite the Raver type I meant for her.

Watch The Matrix again, that's what it's all about - leather and style and sex.
Skate's datajack, BTW, is at the base of the back of her skull, like most Rigger's, not on her skull. It's usually hidden in her hair.

Combat boots are very Skate, that's just absloutely perfect. The pants are good, just not patched - they should be leather.

I don't want to unduely influence you, since I like what you're doing on your own, but if you want to see my original Skate, who was a character in The Matrix Online's beta-test, here's a photobucket album with my best screenies of her: http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Sha...Dragon8685/MxO/

As far as Vincent - that's just rock and win. I love the action pose, the way the trenchcoat is flying out behind him. That's just... Made of rock and win.

His head looks a bit blocky, though, like maybe he has a non-obvious Cyberskull, or else subdermal armor. Not a BAD look, by all means, I just thought I'd note it.


And by all means, if you like movement better than stationary, feel free to revise Skate however you like. You're a good artist, like Squinky is - it's interesting to see how two different people develop the same character - and the more you draw, the more you refine your style. (Except me. I rotted any time I put pencil to paper.)

Yay cool!

(Adds to collection of Vincent sketches.)

There's something about having many artists work on your character that makes a nerd happy.

o.k. I hope this works. It took an hour to change her face it seemed like a nightmare. lol. I'm thinking of having her back to a brick building with either a door or window off center from her for the background. Any suggestions? I changed the pants to a leather look and changes the deck to have a touch pad w/ three buttons at the top like a pad on a lap top, also added a screen and number keys.
Also signed it. Barring any objections I will ink this tonight and add background.
Let me know.

The deck is made of winsauce and I love it. The face? Not so much.

Still looks kind of... Flattened. The neck might be responsible for this, partly - it looks very wide towards the base, kind of like you'd expect Arnold's neck. Also the eyes, they still look strangely... Cybernetic. Maybe this is a lack of irises and toning.

Did you give her a breast reduction? I'm having a hard timetelling, but they don't look quite so huge anymore. Still, overall it's much better than last time... At least, I think so. (It might help to have the last picture available to compare it to. Perhaps revisions should be made with-a, -b, etcetera?)

The head is a bit small for the body. Changing that would give more space for features. But it is looking better.

...any chance we may all get to see the development sketches? It appears they are being posted only in PMs.

Uh, no. Actually, he updated the old one, at the first link.

...SD8685, thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

The cyberdeck, is a lot sleeker, doesn't appear to be an old PC keyboard with a jack cord anymore. (the original decker version of my character Violet built her homemade deck in the case of a kid's tutor comp).

Not sure of the facial expression. I would see her having a more serious look in her eyes. Reminds me too much of the "Dazzler" from X-Men. Maybe her head more tilted down or 3/4, looking from the corner of her eyes.

...still nicely done overall, love the fashion styling.

Very much improved, in my opinion. The face looks much better, but I think the nose is a little off. Cyberdeck looks very slick.

Can't wait to see the next ones, you've got some talent.

Yeah the new deck, very stylish. I likes it.

here's an inked version. Next step shading using Photoshop.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/48018791/
Calvin the touch-ups should be done soon. (Mainly the face.)

The Irises helped a lot. Face still looks a bit funny, but c'est la vie. I'll ask you to redo her in 3 months or so, once you've got more practic under your belt or something.

I like it. It's good.

Thank you, I truly appreciate that you like it, I would be happy to redraw this character in a month or so to see if it is any better. The character is awesome.

Calvin Hobbes here's a inked version for you.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/48043037/

As I said I will be working these in photoshop, first shading then color.

Next pencils, cristomeyers (both of them.)
I feel bad that the faces aren't coming out well but it's my style of drawing. Having said that I think that it's been a phenominal experience hearing from u guys on what u think is wrong. I love it. I hope as these continue that my art gets better and better. However, please do keep in mind that I am a comic-book artist ( Marvel/ DC style)and although I'm not that good yet that is my style.
Anyways Have a great day and I'll post later with updates and pencils.
And... Thanks for all the kind words and support dumpshockers.

Calvin's drawing there looks totally like he could march straight into the ranks of the superheros and start kicking butt. In fact, that's exactly what he looks like he's about to do.

Faces have got to be the hardest part. Both drawings so far look phenominal, I can't wait to see mine.

cristomeyers here's a first draft and a question.Do you mind a hermetic circle on the ground ( her in the center)? right now the circle looks like crap but the many lines gauge the circle when I finish there will only be three thick borders for three circles.
The use of space: I have an idea to get both your characters in the same picture.
Don't worry the characters will be drawn individually first then put together.
What do you say?
Oh... her left leg is going to be changed, it's too long.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/48091343/

o.k. this is my idea. Let me know if you like it so I can start inking.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/48095793/

That is excellent. She looks scared of something, which if you knew her backstory, fits well, but it's a little much. I'd say lessen that effect a touch and it'd be perfect. Overall though, it fits well with what I had pictured. The circle looks great too, keep it.

If you can get both of them in a picture, that'd be great. They're something of a student/mentor team, Anubis is one of the two men she trusts. She's much more confident around him and he's fond of her in a big brother way. I'll save the rest of the board from the details, but if you think they'd be useful, let me know.

This stuff is awesome. Big fan of Vincent.