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> drawings: holychampion, character drawings: i'll try it
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post Feb 9 2007, 01:18 PM
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Awesome, they look great. It's nice to finally have something to get a clear mental picture from. The changes to Gabryel's face kinda make her look world-weary, which is perfect.

Keep practicing, you can only move up. You want more, let me know, I've got a long list of characters I could give you.
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post Feb 9 2007, 04:10 PM
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Here u go. finished 'cause i couldn't wait to put the two together. I personally like this better compared to #3 on the premise of what was described of the Totem.
Either way these two were a treat to draw.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/48365640/
Hope u like. :D

...very very nice. The only teeny thing (and it is very teeny) is Anubis should be just a bit more centred so the fingertips of his left hand are in the picture.
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post Feb 10 2007, 12:38 AM
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well the hand thing had to do with the spacing of the figure and the offset of Anubis was done so that he didn't overpower Gabryel and to give the picture a little depth. I totally see what you'r saying but I was once told that if you leave some small thing off page it tends to give the viewer the power to shape the image in their mind. Maybe that's not the right thing to do, I'm not sure. I appreciate the comment though, as I've appreciated all the comments.
Kyoto Kid I've already begun sketching your character, we'll see how she shapes up this weekend, the fire is still burning.
Eidolon your up after that.
Get some others to view this thread and lets keep the characters coming!
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post Feb 10 2007, 01:34 AM
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well the hand thing had to do with the spacing of the figure and the offset of Anubis was done so that he didn't overpower Gabryel and to give the picture a little depth. I totally see what you'r saying but I was once told that if you leave some small thing off page it tends to give the viewer the power to shape the image in their mind. Maybe that's not the right thing to do, I'm not sure. I appreciate the comment though, as I've appreciated all the comments.

...yeah, it's all that college level art & design training I went into debt for years ago (& what am I doing with it? Schlepping data as a "glorified accountant").

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Kyoto Kid I've already begun sketching your character, we'll see how she shapes up this weekend, the fire is still burning.

...Cool, it will be interesting to see how my dangerous little girl turns out. Take some time with her if you need to. I know, working with age groups other than "twenty-somethings" (which is the age most comic book and fantasy heroes are cast at) is not always the easiest (took me a bit of time to get kids & older folks down well). I hope my notes are sufficient.
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post Feb 11 2007, 05:18 AM
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This isen't exactly a Shadowrun request (though I suppose it could be some kind of Spirit), but since you're empty for now...

I've recently come into possession of a song called "Templars of Steel" by Hammerfall, which is really good.

Anyway, here was my idea. I want an armored figure, armored head-to-toe in platemail armor. But not normal, realistic platemail. Full metal fantasy style platemail - thick, dark black plate, rivets, narrow helmet slit, etcetera. He needs to have a huge, and by huge I do mean huge tower shield in his left arm - kind of curved inwards at the edges, with a vision slit much like a police riot shield. It should be taller than the Templar is, enough to block a good door. The right hand should have a thick, "chunky monkey" hammer on a longish handle, with a broad spear blade on the top, so it could be used for bashing or poking.
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post Feb 11 2007, 03:56 PM
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o.k. This will give me something to do while I break from drawing this preteen character that is really hard to do.
I started drawing when I first played D&D when I was a kid. I don't do a whole lot of it anymore but swords&sorcery was my mainstay for many years.

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post Feb 11 2007, 03:59 PM
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BTW Kyoto Kid, I took a look at the original drawing. The fingers are not cut out of it. I'll re-load the image tonight.
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post Feb 11 2007, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE (holychampion)
o.k. This will give me something to do while I break from drawing this preteen character that is really hard to do.
I started drawing when I first played D&D when I was a kid. I don't do a whole lot of it anymore but swords&sorcery was my mainstay for many years.

Well, it's a bit fantasy, a bit steampunky... :)

If you're familar with the Iron Kingdoms, it's inspired by that. Big, chunky-monkey, heavy and steel. Go wild, I wanna see what you make. :)
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post Feb 11 2007, 10:53 PM
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BTW Kyoto Kid, I took a look at the original drawing. The fingers are not cut out of it. I'll re-load the image tonight.

...ahh, scanner registration issue.

BTW I have a few additional references for to help with Leela. I was going to PM them but the links came up as normal text with the bracketed Image tags as part of the text. At least I finally figured out how to get the normal HTTP tag to work. with any of the links open you are also able to browse the site for other images.

When I was steered to the film Lemony Snicketts - A Series of Unfortunate Events (2004), by a friend I was surprised (at the time I was still running Leela as a PC). Finally I was able to catch the TV trailer and noticed that the character, Violet Beaudalare (portrayed by the young Australian actress Emily Browning), bore an uncanny resemblance to my own attempts at drawing Leela.

Sidebar when I was able to see the film I loved the story and writing style so much that I even purchased the entire 13 book collection The Complete Wreck. Though classified as Young Adult, I discovered it had an appeal for adults as well due to its dark sense of humour. While reading the series, I rewrote my Hacker character Violet's backstory in a the same style and have even toyed with a Snickett's styled campaign setting as well

Back to the images, the first two are of the actress herself. #1 is from a feature article that appeared in the Daily Telegraph (I tried to track down the article to get the date of it for an age reference but my search foo is impatient, It appears it must have been shot back in 2001 or 2002 since she looks all of 13 to 14). This one is close to Leela's physique and nature. #2 is from a photo shoot which I mainly included for the hairstyle Leela usually wore when she was still a runner. I also like the confidence in her facial expression, a look Leela would often give when she knew she was right. The Last one is a DVD capture, from the Lemony Snicketts film which is the "look" that originally caught my eye.

Note: since there is a page header, you sill need to scroll down to see the images.

Emily Browning 1
Emily Browning 2
Lemony Snicketts - Violet & Klaus

Alas, in the years since the film she has lost that "sweet" look & some have even mentioned her name in the same breath with *sigh [in a negative sense]* Angelina Jolie.
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post Feb 12 2007, 12:15 AM
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alright... here is the first sketch for leela. This one is really difficult this is the actual third sketch I've done of this character.
Thanks for the links, helps out alot.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/48583845/
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post Feb 12 2007, 12:32 AM
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Cute. Very... Pedobait in an explosive rollerskater way. I like it. :)
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post Feb 12 2007, 01:41 AM
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QUOTE (holychampion)
alright... here is the first sketch for leela. This one is really difficult this is the actual third sketch I've done of this character.   
Thanks for the links, helps out alot. 
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/48583845/

...So far I love it The pose and scene works with her being a very athletic character (the car looks like a 2060 Moskovic).

just a few points:

...the easy stuff:
As a runner she also wore an old Army helmet (she could be holding it on with her left hand) and a Suretech Jacket ("bomber" style)

...now the hard part:
Since she is physically underdeveloped, she wouldn't have so pronounced a "wasp waist" & her chest should be flatter with little or no cleavage showing. Admittedly, the face still looks a bit mature. I know this is the most difficult part of age characterisation to get down (Squinky had a difficult time as well). One thing is to not accentuate facial lines as much for when inked, they do make a person look older because of the "hard" contrast. Maybe have her look up a bit more with either a sassy smile or ready to bust out in a giggle.

Again if you need more time, don't worry, I am patient.

Two more images for study:
(having too much fun making links since I finally figured out how to do them without a lot of keyboard entry)

Violet Sly Smile
Emily Browning Giggle

While studying in College both for fine art and comic illustration my instructors stressed the importance of building a photo library as a resource. With the Internet today this is far easier than it was back then having to cut pictures out of magazines & newspapers.

FYI - The reason I do not draw as much anymore is due to severe arthritis.
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post Feb 12 2007, 01:39 PM
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alright... here is the first sketch for leela. This one is really difficult this is the actual third sketch I've done of this character.
Thanks for the links, helps out alot.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/48583845/


Not bad, shaping up to be your best yet.
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post Feb 12 2007, 02:29 PM
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Made some changes, darkened it up a bit. I will incorporate the helmet tonight and try to de-age the face also.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/48621654/
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post Feb 12 2007, 02:30 PM
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And this is the piece of art I drew for my gaming group years ago. I was the GM and this was the bar scene, this bit 'o work is got me started drawing SR characters.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/48621731/
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post Feb 12 2007, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE (holychampion)
Made some changes, darkened it up a bit. I will incorporate the helmet tonight and try to de-age the face also.

...looking very nice. "Such a dangerous little dahlink she is, Nyet?" The eyes definitely help a lot. I also love the windows in the car shattering from the concussion.

One more small point:
The debris look a bit more like missiles coming at her. Generally debris would form more of a radiating pattern (not necessarily symmetrical) and tumble during flight leaving more of a smoke trail behind while following a ballistic arc (seen way too many episodes of Blastmasters on Discovery). Considering the point at which the blast behind her is occurring, most of the debris would still be on the upward/outbound portion of flight. Check out images explosions from both RL as well as comics. Most structural demolitions jobs (both controlled industrial and military) are designed to collapse a structure by weakening it rather than blow it to kingdom come (the last thing you want is to endanger your own personnel on the ground with shrapnel).

Please excuse all the coaching, it's the teacher in me (first attended a teacher's college in Wisconsin). I like to see new artists do well, kind of the "passing of the torch" so to say. Once I can get this old scanner of mine up & running again (still having driver issues, may just end up buying a new one), I will try to post some of the stuff I did in the past. Most of it is Fantasy, SF, Superhero, & Tech illustration but there is some early Shadowrun stuff (SRI & SRII).

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And this is the piece of art I drew for my gaming group years ago. I was the GM and this was the bar scene, this bit 'o work is got me started drawing SR characters.

...reminds me of a couple of meets I walked into in my day.
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post Feb 12 2007, 04:48 PM
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...reminds me of a couple I never walked out of

Oh wait, that was just last session too.

Either way, good stuff.
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post Feb 13 2007, 03:16 AM
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Kyoto kid, I truly appreciate all of your input. Knowing that you have a background in art only reinforces all of your input. Please keep them coming :notworthy: . Really I've learned alot just in the week that this has been going on, so really let me know what you think. Here is a cleaner (but not final) version of Leela.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/48665762

and here is the first sketch of the Warrior. Right now I'm not sure if I should finish or restart, I think it maybe a bit weak.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/48665859
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post Feb 13 2007, 03:31 AM
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Kyoto kid, I truly appreciate all of your input. Knowing that you have a background in art only reinforces all of your input. Please keep them coming :notworthy: . Really I've learned alot just in the week that this has been going on, so really let me know what you think. Here is a cleaner (but not final) version of Leela.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/48665762

and here is the first sketch of the Warrior. Right now I'm not sure if I should finish or restart, I think it maybe a bit weak.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/48665859

I love the Leela action shot. Very The Matrix, which is what I want from my Shadowrun.

Screw stealth and grit and street. I want to walk into an MAD, whip out a gun, and gun down the guard station. :)

Or rollerskate side-jump over a car while running from an explosion. ^_^

As for the warrior, it's a good start. The hammer and tower shield are more or less right, though the shield's more wispy, so it's hard to tell.

As for the warrior, his armor and helmet's not nearly as bulky as I was thinking - I was thinking larger, heftier, chunky-monkey style. Maybe with some rivets and pauldrons. (Can't forget pauldrons. Pauldrons are the win. :) )

Still, I like it so far... Oh, don't forget a georget or make his helmet big and on a rotating collar or something. Exposed neck = bad. :)
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post Feb 13 2007, 02:45 PM
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holychampion, did you get the PM I sent you? No rush or anything, just curious. I can post in the thread if it works better.
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post Feb 13 2007, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE (holychampion)
Kyoto kid, I truly appreciate all of your input. Knowing that you have a background in art only reinforces all of your input. Please keep them coming  :notworthy: . Really I've learned alot just in the week that this has been going on, so really let me know what you think. Here is a cleaner (but not final) version of Leela.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/48665762


...sweet, very sweet. :notworthy: The explosion looks much better. You went with the sly smile, I like it (I can almost hear her giggling). She looks to have a bit of a double chin but I'm sure this will be one of the things attended to in the final version. Otherwise she looks simply marvellous, Her musclulature is perfect since she does have a decent strength for someone her size and is fairly athletic. Let me know before you get to the colouring phase.

@ShadowDragon8685 - Believe it or not Leela didn't have stealth as an actual skill but did "on a chip" (for her Skillwires 3). But then, who would suspect that such a sweet little thing would go about blowing up command centres, transmission towers, and parked helicopters (the last being her favourite target since an attack chopper is what killed her family and nearly herself as well).

Actually, Trinity and Neo from the Matrix are good models for how I view Adepts and "Juiced Up" Sammies in relation to the normals of the SR world.

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and here is the first sketch of the Warrior. Right now I'm not sure if I should finish or restart, I think it maybe a bit weak.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/48665859



...also very nice, I always had a a time of it trying to depict archaic armour correctly (other than chainmail which usually fit pretty much like a shirt and regular leggings) correctly. Alas, most of my characters (save my Assimar Meg from a Forgotten Realms campaign) usually were depicted without their armour or were from classes that wore little or none (e.g. Rogues, Druids, & Monks).
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post Feb 13 2007, 08:05 PM
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eidolon: Yes I did and your next. Should be finishing up Leela today and starting on yours...so it won't be long. Thanks for the interest.
Kyoto kid: I second that motion. I view the Matrix as a great visual of what physical adepts are about in game it even gives a very good visual of what the 'gun-bunnies' (physads who appropriate points toward gunslinging) would look like.
Anyways I'm having the time of my life with these drawings. Thanks to everyone.
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Awesome. Can't wait to see what you come up with. I'm pretty easy to please. :D
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eidolon: Yes I did and your next. Should be finishing up Leela today and starting on yours...so it won't be long. Thanks for the interest.
Kyoto kid: I second that motion. I view the Matrix as a great visual of what physical adepts are about in game it even gives a very good visual of what the 'gun-bunnies' (physads who appropriate points toward gunslinging) would look like.
Anyways I'm having the time of my life with these drawings. Thanks to everyone.

...cool, glad you are enjoying this. Once Leela is finished, I'll let you get to some of the other requests in the queue. Then I will send you another challenge.
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post Feb 13 2007, 10:05 PM
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Great! Thanks. Here is a inked version.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/48718233/
Will submit 'the Warrior' by tommorrow.
Should be done with eidolon sketch by tommorrow as well.
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