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Wolfgang Keis, what is/was he?

fourstring_samur... fourstring_samurai View Member Profile	Jan 12 2006, 05:35 AM Post #1
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 189 Joined: 17-December 03 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 5,912	a recent coment about wolf and raven got me thinking about wolfgang keis. what exactly is he? is he unique? as near as i can gather, he seems to be some kind of physad who gets his powers from a totem (wolf). i know that he's a werewolf, but what about the boosted abilities he gets directly from wolf? and just what happened to the guy?

fistandantilus4.... fistandantilus4.0 View Member Profile	Jan 12 2006, 05:45 AM Post #2
Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928	To my knowledge there hasn't been much published about him except as a cameo in "The Terminus Experiment". It never really says, but what I understood was that he was some sort of Wolf shapeshifter that was also a phys ad, very strongly linked to his totem. My favorite parts of that book was when the Old Wolf totem told him "Don't worry [insert Wolf's name that his totem calls him], I'll protext your bitch." Good times, good times

Critias View Member Profile	Jan 12 2006, 06:42 AM Post #3
Freelance Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714	I don't think it's so much that he was "unique," as he was "written as a cool character before most of the rules came out." If you were to try and recreate that sort of character, today, he'd be pretty easy to do as a Wolf aspected Adept, and (for lack of a better way to do it), make him a wolf shapeshifter (raised as a human, by humans, somehow). Failing that, you could make him a full-on Physmage, and for just about his only spell give him Shapeshift (or whatever it was called).

nick012000 View Member Profile	Jan 12 2006, 10:55 AM Post #4
Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,283 Joined: 17-May 05 Member No.: 7,398	I thought he was a full-on Shaman, with a tendency towards buffing spells.

Guest_MK Ultra_*	Jan 12 2006, 11:59 AM Post #5
Guests	It was stated in Into the Shadows, Dr. Raven sayed, Wolf was "blessed by the wolvespirit" wether that means :P

Ancient History View Member Profile	Jan 12 2006, 12:20 PM Post #6
Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935	It was made out that Wolfgang was a physad who followed the Wolf totem, accessing his more potent abilities was accompanied by an apparently lycanthropic change. In modern perspective, Wolfgang Keis has a shamanic mask that drops down over him when using his powers.

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QUOTE (fistandantilus3.0)

To my knowledge there hasn't been much published about him except as a cameo in "The Terminus Experiment".

It never really says, but what I understood was that he was some sort of Wolf shapeshifter that was also a phys ad, very strongly linked to his totem.

My favorite parts of that book was when the Old Wolf totem told him "Don't worry [insert Wolf's name that his totem calls him], I'll protext your bitch." Good times, good times

I also loved that particular line. :)

fistandantilus4.... fistandantilus4.0 View Member Profile	Jan 13 2006, 05:26 AM Post #9
Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928	I always liked that book because 1- I like Michael Stackpole's writing 2- Wolf wasn't the kind of character the always got the upper hand or was always on the ball. 'Course there was that part where he did the classis 80's action movie hero bit where he got the crap kicked out of him for a while then came back, but hey, it's all good. 3- ally spirit in the form of a yacht. Not his, but it was still cool. ;)

Paul View Member Profile	Jan 13 2006, 12:01 PM Post #10
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Reaver View Member Profile	Jan 13 2006, 03:13 PM Post #11
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 518 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Tucson Member No.: 4,153	Mr. Stackpole also had three of four short stories in various Challenge magazines with Wolfgang and the crew. I've still got them sitting on a shelf. :)

TheQuestionMan View Member Profile	Jan 13 2006, 06:53 PM Post #12
Target Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 2-March 05 Member No.: 7,133	The great thing about Wolf is he seemed to match Harrison Ford's Indiana Jones characters. They get the drek kicked out of them, but somehow survive and come back to win. Appearences in Shadow Novels Into the Shadows - Short Story (Micheal Stackpole) Wolf and Raven - Autobiographical-ish (Micheal Stackpole) Terminus Experiment - Guest Appearance (Micheal Stackpole) RPG Books Shadows of North America - Shadow Comments (I forget where) Seattle Sourcebook - Shadow Comments (I forget where) Some times confused with Lone Wolf, a X-Star Undercover Operative. Cheers QM

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"Into The Shadows" - MasN review

QUOTE (Reaver)

Mr. Stackpole also had three of four short stories in various Challenge magazines with Wolfgang and the crew. I've still got them sitting on a shelf. :)

Rever, any more details. I'm collecting info about SR products, and that's what I found about Challenge

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QUOTE (Critias @ Jan 12 2006, 01:42 AM)

I don't think it's so much that he was "unique," as he was "written as a cool character before most of the rules came out."

If you were to try and recreate that sort of character, today, he'd be pretty easy to do as a Wolf aspected Adept, and (for lack of a better way to do it), make him a wolf shapeshifter (raised as a human, by humans, somehow). Failing that, you could make him a full-on Physmage, and for just about his only spell give him Shapeshift (or whatever it was called).

In Into the Shadows, he casts a low powered healing spell on either Zig or Zag - "The most Dox Raven ever managed to teach me". So definitely magician adept. Therefore, I'm thinking human not shapeshifter. Note that he does not regenerate. Kinda rules out the latter. ;)

Edit to add - Make his tradition a possession version of Shamanism (he was self taught) and you're good to go.

Snow_Fox View Member Profile	Dec 31 2006, 04:18 AM Post #15
Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221	I'm pretty sure he's a case of a written character before there were nay rules on it. He seems like a lycanthrope, not a shifter but an actual human who sometimes has to change and strives to control it.

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You don't say.

QUOTE (Critias)

I don't think it's so much that he was "unique," as he was "written as a cool character before most of the rules came out."

If you were to try and recreate that sort of character, today, he'd be pretty easy to do as a Wolf aspected Adept, and (for lack of a better way to do it), make him a wolf shapeshifter (raised as a human, by humans, somehow). Failing that, you could make him a full-on Physmage, and for just about his only spell give him Shapeshift (or whatever it was called).

NightmareX View Member Profile	Jan 1 2007, 09:20 AM Post #17
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 831 Joined: 5-September 05 From: LAX, UCAS Member No.: 7,687	:D To make it utterly clear, Wolfgang was written as Critias put it "before most of the rules came out" - as in before the SR1 BBB even came out. IIRC, Into the Shadows was mostly complete before the game was even launched. SF is right regarding his lycanthrope-esqe nature, but it comes from being (basically) possessed on and off by the Wolf totem (as someone mentioned).

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QUOTE (NightmareX @ Jan 1 2007, 02:20 AM)

SF is right regarding his lycanthrope-esqe nature, but it comes from being (basically) possessed on and off by the Wolf totem (as someone mentioned).

Snow Fox is, on most occasions, a she. Unless I missed something.

Anyway, Wolfgang is cool because his inner puppy calls his lady a bitch, and by the virtue of being normal compared to Kid Stealth.

Also, Ally Spirit Yacht!

Ryu View Member Profile	Jan 1 2007, 11:39 AM Post #19
Awakened Asset Group: Members Posts: 4,464 Joined: 9-April 05 From: AGS, North German League Member No.: 7,309	I don´t think he was accusing SF of having a lycanthrophist nature ;)

NightmareX View Member Profile	Jan 1 2007, 12:55 PM Post #20
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Chrome Shadow View Member Profile	Jan 4 2007, 06:41 PM Post #21
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 112 Joined: 27-January 06 Member No.: 8,205	Wolfgang said on one novel that he was cursed, but with the help of Dr. Raven, got control over it. It also said that he hunted down and kill the other humans cursed that couldn't control themselves...

mintcar View Member Profile	Jan 4 2007, 11:01 PM Post #22
Karma Police Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,358 Joined: 22-July 04 From: Gothenburg, SE Member No.: 6,505	A few cool lines and characters in those stories. And it's fun that they're not just pulpy, but also shamelessly puts a disproportional focus on the writer's favourit sport. Stackpole must be such a baseball fan. :D

SL James View Member Profile	Jan 5 2007, 09:27 PM Post #23
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