 Improved Ability?, You are NOT Mario Andretti |
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 Feb 24 2006, 01:17 PM
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Runner  Group: Members Posts: 2,925 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 948  |
Did they forget that or are they serious about not being able to add Improved Ability to Vehicle Skills? Would make a neat Adept/Rigger otherwise.
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Feb 24 2006, 01:24 PM
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Karma Police Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,358 Joined: 22-July 04 From: Gothenburg, SE Member No.: 6,505 |
I'd say they forgot about them.
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Feb 24 2006, 04:35 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 775 Joined: 31-March 05 From: florida Member No.: 7,273 |
what in hades are you talking about, where does it say that, it says you cant use it on skill groups
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Feb 24 2006, 04:36 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
Vehicles skills AREN'T part of skill groups.
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Feb 24 2006, 04:42 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,635 Joined: 27-November 05 Member No.: 8,006 |
The text for the power says you can use Improved Ability for Combat, Physical, Social, or Technical skills. Pilot Ground Craft is none of those, it is a Vehicle Skill.
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Feb 24 2006, 04:47 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 633 Joined: 23-February 06 Member No.: 8,301 |
I think it's pretty safe to assume that it was an accident, leaving out Vehicle skills like that. Regardless, we've already houseruled away that restriction. I have a player running a cool driver-adept character, and I wouldn't want to say no to that.
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Feb 24 2006, 04:49 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,635 Joined: 27-November 05 Member No.: 8,006 |
I think this board could really use a thumbs up emoticon. EDIT In the same breath I would be inclined to not allow Improved Ability to function while in VR, but AR is fine. The rules don't say this at all, and it is partially a favor of the past thing. But also right now Improved Ability allows Adepts to take advantage of the extra 3 points up to the modified Skill cap in so many more Skills than mundanes can. |
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Feb 24 2006, 05:42 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,925 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 948 |
We have basically added that rule for the possibility of adept deckers since they would be so incredibly silly from the beginning otherwise. |
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Feb 24 2006, 06:13 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,590 Joined: 11-September 04 Member No.: 6,650 |
Jopp... why?
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Feb 24 2006, 06:50 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,925 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 948 |
Why? Improved ability Hacking, cyber combat etc plus the bonus for being in full VR. Starting skills would be at least 6 with improved ability for that kind of hacker. |
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Feb 24 2006, 07:40 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
ok, who is with me about voting the improved ability adept power as the most broken power ever?
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Feb 24 2006, 07:51 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,138 Joined: 10-June 03 From: Tennessee Member No.: 4,706 |
It's a lot better than it was in SR3 for most things. I think slapping a "no VR" restriction on it pretty much fixes the worst problems with it in SR4.
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Feb 24 2006, 07:53 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
err, imp ability and some adept reflex enhancment and i belive he can outperform a hacker, all else being equal...
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Feb 24 2006, 10:01 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 70 Joined: 20-January 06 Member No.: 8,185 |
Adept Decker = Technomancer in Denial
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 Feb 24 2006, 10:06 PM
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jacked in Group: Admin Posts: 9,585 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 463 |
Yeah, just like the street samurai with a million nuyen outperforms the street samurai without. :cyber: But I do agree somewhat... matrix stuff should not be boosted directly by magic. That's what Technomancers are for. Bye Thanee |
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