 Bioware vs Cyberware?, Can you hack it? |
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 Dec 15 2006, 02:35 AM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 29-November 06 Member No.: 10,070  |
Is Bioware considered Cyberware? Can it be 'hacked' by say a Technomancer just as easily as anything else? Is this covered in the core book and I just missed it???
Thanks in advance! -W- |
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Dec 15 2006, 02:36 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 147 Joined: 4-December 06 From: Chicago, IL Member No.: 10,193 |
Without machinery you would have to assume that there's nothing to be hacked. Thus another example of why bioware is worth the extra scratch. |
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Dec 15 2006, 02:41 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,011 Joined: 15-February 05 From: Montréal, QC, Canada Member No.: 7,087 |
They didn't specifically state that bioware can't be hacked AFAIK because it's such common sense but nowhere will you find a mention that bioware has wireless functionality. They never say you can't hack a soy-burger either but you gotta assume you can't, right? |
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Dec 15 2006, 02:49 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 337 Joined: 1-September 06 From: LI, New York Member No.: 9,286 |
Can a hacker or technomancer hack a regular, uncybered person? Bioware is made of the same stuff as everything else in a (meta)human body, cells. They have no wireless connection or computer. Well, they have a computer but not in the same sense as one capable of WiFi.
What if... You got a cerebral booster made from cells of a technomancer? No, wait that will not work because a cerebral booster needs to be cloned from your own cells. would work in an Emo Samurai game though. :spin: Just kidding with you Emo. Would make for an interesting run though and IIRC there was a canned mission for SR3 for something like this. |
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Dec 15 2006, 03:08 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 147 Joined: 4-December 06 From: Chicago, IL Member No.: 10,193 |
Eh, I figure if a hacker really wants to try, let em. Besides, it's likely that sooner or later someone will develop nanite based flavoring. |
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Dec 15 2006, 03:12 AM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
Sure. The Technomancer should be able to wield the cleaver, though. |
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Dec 15 2006, 04:24 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 271 Joined: 18-April 06 Member No.: 8,481 |
You can hack bioware!
It's called "Control Actions" :P t3h h4x0rz!!!1won! |
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Dec 15 2006, 04:51 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 1-December 06 Member No.: 10,116 |
Huh? I thought you 'hacked' it with an axe? :lick:
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Dec 15 2006, 05:44 AM
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Horror Group: Members Posts: 5,322 Joined: 15-June 05 From: BumFuck, New Jersey Member No.: 7,445 |
The axe is a metaphor for a logic-bomb which reduces the target's ability to resist your slave-system metaphor.
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Dec 15 2006, 12:49 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,498 Joined: 4-August 05 From: ADL Member No.: 7,534 |
You can not hack bioware.
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Dec 15 2006, 01:59 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
that will, after you have eaten said burger, relocate to some area of your body and create a small rfid chip that will tell anyone interested what burger you have eaten and so on. over time your body will be so full of them that your a walking mcsoy billboard, and when scanned could perhaps be used to check the price changes over time (and your preferred kind of burger)... really nasty stuff... |
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Dec 15 2006, 02:52 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,089 Joined: 4-October 05 Member No.: 7,813 |
i dunno... you might be able to 'hack' bioware through the use of psyschotropic IC.
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Dec 15 2006, 06:28 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 777 Joined: 22-November 06 Member No.: 9,934 |
on the thoughts of nanites, they'd have a signal rating of 0 (3m) theoretically you could hack the nanites to express the bioware in a specific fashion. ie not emit adrenaline, or to damage the body like the "cutters" of SR3 |
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Dec 15 2006, 07:32 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 906 Joined: 16-October 06 Member No.: 9,630 |
What bioware uses nanites?
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Dec 15 2006, 08:26 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,089 Joined: 4-October 05 Member No.: 7,813 |
is this a misquote? i'm trying to figure out what this has to do with psychotropic IC... [edit] based on you doing what appears to be the same thing in another thread (quoting me again, oddly enough). i think you're looking at the wrong quote button ;) which isn't a problem, it just leads to your post quite possibly having nothing to do with what you quoted... [/edit] This post has been edited by Jaid: Dec 15 2006, 08:28 PM |
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Dec 15 2006, 08:32 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 777 Joined: 22-November 06 Member No.: 9,934 |
intended to quote the message above yours.
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Dec 15 2006, 08:35 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 71 Joined: 29-July 06 From: Orlando, FL Member No.: 8,981 |
yeah but at the nano level, do you really think the nanites would have the capability of having the hardware to send/recieve wireless signals? or even have the power to broadcast it a meter? Honestly I only see you being able to manipulate nanites wirelessly if the host has some kind of hive attached to them.
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Dec 15 2006, 08:40 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
Sure. They could act as an antenna array.
I'm not sure exactly how feasible that would be, that depends on the particulars of the construction of the fictitious nanites, but the principle of antenna arrays is sound. Physics allows it. :-) |
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Dec 15 2006, 09:32 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 906 Joined: 16-October 06 Member No.: 9,630 |
This all assumes nantites are a part of bioware which they are not so the question is moot.
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Dec 15 2006, 09:37 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
Well, symbiotes could accurately be described as nanites, although perhaps not the type people are thinking of here.
Also, I would expect that the implantation/integration of many types of bioware involve nanites at some point. I don't think the discussion is completely useless. |
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Dec 15 2006, 09:43 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
Yes, at some point - surgery and extended care.
Afterwards, the nanites have long run out of power... |
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Dec 15 2006, 09:45 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,032 Joined: 6-August 04 Member No.: 6,543 |
Are technomancers made of diffrent stuff than you or me?..... |
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Dec 15 2006, 09:45 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
@Rotbart: Oh, well I agree with that.
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Dec 15 2006, 09:50 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 906 Joined: 16-October 06 Member No.: 9,630 |
Yes they are made from diffrent stuff, otherwise they would be mundane instead of techomancers. |
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Dec 15 2006, 09:51 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 777 Joined: 22-November 06 Member No.: 9,934 |
not out of power since they don't run on the same power normal robots do, but rendered inert from wireless signals or programming and the body passes them like any waste, if you knew the signal to active them though... if not..the medkit biodoc program would have active nanites, ready for injection. |
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