Can someone help me audit this sheet?, I'm just lost. Options

[ShadowDragon8685]

Knight, the bane of my ass rigger.

Human mundane,

Attributes:
Body 1
Agility 3
Reaction 5
Strength 1
Charisma 2
Intuition 5
Logic 5
Willpower 2
Edge 8
Initiative 10
Essence: 3.5.

By my count, this should come out to... 225? (That's 25 points over 1/2, is it not?)

Note: He is asserting that as Edge is neither physical and mental, that Edge is not counted under the "no more than 1/2 of points may be spent on attributes". Is this a correct or incorrect interpretation on his part?


Active skills:
Cracking group 4
Electronics group 3
Mechanic group 2
Pilot Anthroform (Remote Operation) 5
Gunnery (Ballistic) 4
Pilot Aircraft 1

That adds up to 134, does it not? The Knowledge skills I'm not going to sweat.

PosiQualities:

Lucky! (20)

Negative qualities taken:
Elf Poser (-5)
Infirm (-20)
Allergy Common/mild (-10)

Total: -15

Equipment

Cyberware:
Wired Reflexes 1 ( 11,000 :nuyen: )
Control Rig (10,000 :nuyen: )

Cost Cyberware: 22,000

Weapons:...

Stoner Ares M202x6 (4500x6x2 (Smartgunlink)) 54,000
Walter MA-2100 (x2 cost Smartgunlink) 10,000
Aztechnology Strikerx2 2,000

Cost weapons: 66,000

Gyro Stabilizationx6 18,000
Smart Firing Platformx2 2,000
Smartgun System, Internalx7 0 (factored in to weapon cost)
Sound Suppressorx4 1,200
Imaging Scopex4 1,200
Gas Vent 2 Systemx6 1,200
2,000 rounds EX-EX 20,000
100 Tracer rounds 750
200 Gel rounds 600

Cost weapon-gear: 44,950

Vehicles:
Chrysler-Nissan Patrol-1 27,000
Steel Lynx x7 35,000
Aztechnology Crawler x2 3,400
Shiawase Kanmushi 1,000
S-B Microskimmer x2 2,000

Cost Vehicles: 65,000

Melee Weapons:
Monofilament Whip: 3,000
Customized Chain-claws (Monoedged chainsaw) 2,500

Cost Melee Weapons: 5,500

Equipment:
Certified Credstick (Platinum) 25
Certified Credstick (Gold) x4 100
Certified Credstick (Ebony) 25
Myomer Rope (10 m) 100
Shop 5,000
Micro Flare Launcher 50
Micro Flares x3 45
Microwire (200 m) 100
Medkit Supplies x16 800 (No medkit???)
Survival Kit x4 400
Flashlight x10 250
Virtual Person 100

Cost Equipment: 6995

Enhancements for drones

Vision Enhancement (Rating 3) x3 13,500
Vision Magnification x3 3,000
Atmosphere Sensor (Rating 1) 25
Camera x2 200
Atmosphere Sensor (Rating 3) x2 75
Cyberware Scanner (Rating 6) 450
Directional Microphone x2 100
Geiger Counter 50
Laser Microphone (Rating 3) x2 200
Laser Microphone (Rating 6) 300
Microphone x2 100
Motion Sensor x2 100
Olfactory Sensor (Rating 6) 1,500
Radio Signal Scanner (Rating 6) 150

Cost Enhancements for Drones: 19,750



Commlink and programs:

Commlink : Fairlight Caliban 8,000 (Where's the Operating System???)
System (Rating 6) 3,000
Firewall (Rating 6) 3,000

sub-Cost Commlink: 14,000

Analyze (Rating 6) 600
Encrypt (Rating 6) 600
Black Hammer (Rating 6) 6,000
Reality Filter (Rating 6) 600
Scan (Rating 6) 600
Armor (Rating 6) 6,000
Attack (Rating 6) 6,000
Data Bomb (Rating 6) 6,000
ECCM (Rating 6) 6,000
Exploit (Rating 6) 6,000
Track (Rating 6) 6,000
Agent/IC/Pilot (Rating 3) 3,000
Biofeedback Filters (Rating 4) 4,000

sub-Cost Programs: 51,400


Clearsight Autosoft (Rating 6) 3,000
Defense Autosoft (Rating 6) 3,000
Electronic Warfare Autosoft (Rating 6) 3,000
Maneuver (Vehicle Type) Autosoft (Rating 6) 3,000
Targeting (Weapon) Autosoft (Rating 6) 3,000

sub-Cost Riggerstuff: 15,000

Mapsoft (Rating 6) 30
Pilot (Rating 4) 10,000

sub-Cost Other Stuff 10,030

Cost Electronica: 90,430

sub-Total Nuyen Cost: 320,125 :nuyen:
-8,500 :nuyen: (Starting cash and loot from runs)

Total Nuyen Cost: 311,625
Dosen't this:
A: Have a point cost of 62?
B: Exceed the maximum allowance for a chargen character?


Contacts:
Caliban: L4, C6: 10 points
Doc Holiday: L4, C2, 6 points
Jinx: L5, C4: 9 points

Contacts: 25 points

Points total: 431?

Am I wrong here? Is this character even remotely legal?

Is this "One little mistake!", or is the wool being pulled over my eyes? I don't like to accuse a player of cheating, but Jtuxyan has a history of making these "little mistakes", to the point that another DM made him level his D&D character, from 1-12, with him, level-by-level......

I dunno.... Please tell me I've made some grevious error and this is all perfectly right.

[Cain]

[ShadowDragon8685]

[Aku]

will grab my book, but the edge thing sounds right, based on one of the characters the book builds, i think... will edit when i check it...


also, if i's a quad, WHY does he have wired reflexes? o better, HOW?

[ShadowDragon8685]

[Rotbart van Dain...]

[ShadowDragon8685]

[Rotbart van Dain...]

[Naysayer]

If you ask me, no matter if his sheet is clean as fairy poo or fishy as garden pond, I think you and your rigger got some OC-issues that you should address.
Preferably, face-to-face.

Because right now, it looks like you're waging a personal vendetta here...

[ShadowDragon8685]

[Cain]

[Rotbart van Dain...]

[ShadowDragon8685]

Assuming I don't just dismiss the group after this.

What a headache.

[Ddays]

What the hell are the drones using? I thought wep mounts peak out at LMG, and Stoner is a Medium Machine gun. Hell, he has rocket launchers in there as well.

Not to mention all the smart weapons, do drones even have automatic smartlink?

[Aku]

[ShadowDragon8685]

I don't honestly know!

That's my problem. (I forgot about the LMG thing, too).

I don't know what the hell he's doing, and up until now I've just been trusting him to roll the correct dice and tell me what he was capable of!

[Adarael]

Posting a character sheet in no way violates copyright, ever. A sheet is a collection of numbers; it has not been created by the player save through the auspices of the game. The character itself - the ephemeral nothing of it (personality quirks, abilities, history, et cetera) are arguably copyrighted. However, a collection of numbers on a sheet are no more copyrighted to the physical being who wrote them than I can copyright the collection of numbers on a lotto ticket because I put pencil to paper.

Rude, sure. Copyright? Not even a little. Only if ShadowDragon chose to claim the character as his creation and attempted to portray it in some fashion would he infringe on copyright. And I'm not even touching on the fact that this is specifically for review, and constituting less than a page of text would easily fall into the fair-use category. No, in order to protect a sheet, you'd have to register a trademark (as a trade secret, or otherwise neccessary to maintain your income).

[Cain]

[kzt]

[Ddays]

Yeah, he's well above the point limits. But seeing as how he has already ran some missions, there might be salvage and karma improvements in those stats.

[ShadowDragon8685]

I already deducted the 8,500 :nuyen: he got. As for the Karma, I don't know where he spent it, but he's only recieved five points, total. I think he spent it on negotiation, which wasen't listed on the sheet he gave me.

[Ddays]

Any looting off the dead bodies of enemies? Large sums of cash might turn up this way (Just last game, my troll killed a go-ganger and took his tricked out harley armed with a stoner-ares m202, 4500 street value)

[ShadowDragon8685]

He stole two MCT Fly-Eyes, pawned them off for like, 1200. He rolled starting money for a High lifestyle, I'm assuming he has the average of 7,500. He also would've gotten 1,000 from the split of the start-of-run money.

So, the very most that he could be over is 9,200; two points worth. And I already deducted most of that, the rest woulden't be enough to make a BP of difference from the final figure.

[Sterling]

I don't think posting a character sheet and asking for a check of it is deserving of the vitriol thrown about by a few people here, but others have pointed out how it's not illegal, etc. is it rude? Not in my book. If one of my players submitted a sheet that I felt was 'off' in some manner, I'd probably post it as well. But I've learned to look at a sheet, see a potential problem, and hand it back with the question 'what's up with X?' Back in the day most of my players would realize I've spotted a tricky dodge and correct it. In the past I've shown players that opening the door to shifty rules dodges is a big mistake.

On to the matter at hand...

Edge caps at 7 for humans. Page 73.

The infirm flaw means any physical skill costs are doubled, so his piloting and gunnery skill costs are doubled (even at character creation).

The holes in his character seem to be his lack of a stealth program, and his inability to soak hot sim dumpshock damage. If he's not running hot sim, I'd be shocked. And I'd expect him to end up addicted to the hot sim VR experience if he's as as physically impaired as the player claims.

I think your only real mistake was allowing this character in the first place. He's just begging for a trace program to sniff out his base and a microdrone to show up and inject him with some sort of body resisted toxin. Or one or two runs in a wi-fi inhibited area and he'll be bored sitting on the sidelines. This character is a crafty build of a one-dimensional archetype (I sit in location X and rig/deck) and when his ability is blocked he's got nothing else to contribute. One Technomancer later, his main drone is stolen and he's sitting at home wondering what's going on.

If he's quadriplegic, who cares for him? You can't take such a critical game flaw and not explain who cooks, cleans, bathes, and otherwise cares for you. I doubt any of the other runners are interested in the job.

A good GM doesn't want to have to police his plaers, he hopes they'll do it themselves. An experienced GM knows that sometimes, the players will need policing. And if you crack down on it enough (but not too harshly) then the players learn not to try it in the future.

[Ravor]

I don't have time to rip into the build yet, but I have to say that I agree with ShadowDragon8685, if you play a character in one of my campaigns, then I can do what I will with that character as far as I'm concerned, including making him/her a NPC in the next campaign. (Generally speaking I won't do so, but hey, the character exists in my world.)