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 Oct 12 2009, 03:25 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 134 Joined: 26-November 06 Member No.: 10,007  |
Hey wasn't there a rule in the rule book that said humans could have one more essence point worth of cyberwere than anyone else... I could have sworn I saw this but can't find it in the rulebook....did I see it somewhere else? In the videogame maybe? If I'm not mistaken it means that humans can have up to -1 points of cyberware right? Or is it that cyberware doesn't reduce essence until after a point has been deducted (though magic and resonance are reduced normaly)
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Oct 12 2009, 03:28 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 433 Joined: 8-November 07 Member No.: 14,097 |
Everyone has the same 6 essence. Humans get +1 base Edge. I've never played the video game so I wouldn't know if it had different rules.
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Oct 12 2009, 03:40 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 134 Joined: 26-November 06 Member No.: 10,007 |
well it was more one more essenece of cyberware (like you don't deduct from the 6 essence until after you got the one free point of cyberware or something)....must be thinking of the vg....anyone know what I mean?
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Oct 12 2009, 04:32 PM
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Cybernetic Blood Mage Group: Members Posts: 3,472 Joined: 11-March 06 From: Northeastern Wyoming Member No.: 8,361 |
I agree with Sponge, I think you are confusing the Edge bonus that Humans have, there was nothing of the sort in the older video games but I refuse to have anything to do with the newest piece of bullshit Microsoft released.
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Oct 12 2009, 04:56 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,095 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Wa, USA Member No.: 1,139 |
There was an old shadowrun book or possibly in the shadowlands magazine where an npc had 7 essence when you did the math but I think that was an elf. Otherwise yeah your thinking of edge.
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Oct 12 2009, 05:01 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 134 Joined: 26-November 06 Member No.: 10,007 |
no I know about that...it definately wasn't the edge bonus
It said that they had one more point of essence for cyberware purposes only (as I recall) ....maybe I am mistaken...that's a relief I can finally stop looking....though just to be sure if anyone knows anyhting about what I mean please let me know. |
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Oct 12 2009, 05:01 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,973 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Fairfax, VA Member No.: 13,526 |
Wasn't that the human mercenary in Elven Fire, who'd been packed full of state of the art cyberware by the TT government, prior to the creation of the rules for cyberware grades?
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Oct 12 2009, 05:06 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 134 Joined: 26-November 06 Member No.: 10,007 |
no never heard of him.
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Oct 12 2009, 05:28 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
I think they actually got more essence in that god damn blasted misfit of a computer game micro$ucks called shadowrun . .
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Oct 12 2009, 05:35 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 265 Joined: 17-August 09 From: Northern California Member No.: 17,510 |
Not counting that guy, there is nobody that is allowed to have over 6 essence of anything. Humans get no more essence than anyone, though they have an extra edge point. Stop looking, you ain't gonna find it.
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Oct 12 2009, 06:05 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Shapeshifters got 8 Essecne in 3rd ed,
Drakes get more Essence in 4th too. |
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Oct 12 2009, 06:09 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 134 Joined: 26-November 06 Member No.: 10,007 |
it WAS the VG then......that's where I saw it.....gah.....coulda been so much better done :sigh: tosses book away....I can now rest at ease......thank you all....thank you all
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Oct 12 2009, 06:43 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
That's one of the main parts we bemoan about the videogame . . it introduces people to shadowrun, then they get these ideas that the RPG should work like the videogame, including teleportation, resurrection and differing essence numbers -.-
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Oct 12 2009, 06:47 PM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 583 Joined: 1-October 09 From: France Member No.: 17,693 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Oct 12 2009, 08:05 PM)  Drakes get more Essence in 4th too. Are you sure of that ? I checked in the Companion and I haven't seen anything of this sort. |
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Oct 12 2009, 07:03 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 134 Joined: 26-November 06 Member No.: 10,007 |
the videogame wasn't my introduction I just forgot where I saw that rule... thought it was in the book must've been the game lol.
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Oct 12 2009, 07:11 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
QUOTE (Dahrken @ Oct 12 2009, 08:47 PM) Are you sure of that ? I checked in the Companion and I haven't seen anything of this sort. Not all that sure, being at work and all <.< QUOTE (limejello10512 @ Oct 12 2009, 09:03 PM) the videogame wasn't my introduction I just forgot where I saw that rule... thought it was in the book must've been the game lol. "The Shadowrun-Community frowns upon your Video-Game-Shenanigans!" |
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Oct 12 2009, 07:19 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 134 Joined: 26-November 06 Member No.: 10,007 |
I wasn't Shenanigans! I rented it and was disapointed!!!!!!!!! Though more cause it was WAY too mindless and repetative. truth be told I don't really thing it violates the historical cannon as much as people thought. However they could have done WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better.......... gasp I'm gonna start a VG post.
anyway I just played the game and that must of been a game rule I played and thought I read in a book. |
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Oct 12 2009, 08:30 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 704 Joined: 20-November 06 From: The seemingly unknown area of land between Seattle and Idaho. Member No.: 9,910 |
Ah, Shadowrun for the Xbox/PC. A game that belongs in the same category as Highlander II, D&D 4E, Dallas, St. Elsewhere, The Matrix: Revolutions, Sonic for the Xbox, Aquaman: Battle for Atlantis, Jar-Jar Binks, Soldier of Fortune: Payback, the Sten, and Superman IV.
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Oct 12 2009, 09:29 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
QUOTE (crash2029 @ Oct 12 2009, 03:30 PM) Ah, Shadowrun for the Xbox/PC. A game that belongs in the same category as Highlander II, D&D 4E, Dallas, St. Elsewhere, The Matrix: Revolutions, Sonic for the Xbox, Aquaman: Battle for Atlantis, Jar-Jar Binks, Soldier of Fortune: Payback, the Sten, and Superman IV. The SR vg game was made, then when M$ was looking around for a title, they found ShadowRun and went, "hey, that fits!" and licensed it. |
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Oct 12 2009, 09:55 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 134 Joined: 26-November 06 Member No.: 10,007 |
QUOTE (Draco18s @ Oct 12 2009, 05:29 PM) The SR vg game was made, then when M$ was looking around for a title, they found ShadowRun and went, "hey, that fits!" and licensed it. LOL |
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Oct 12 2009, 10:23 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
QUOTE (Draco18s @ Oct 12 2009, 11:29 PM) The SR vg game was made, then when M$ was looking around for a title, they found ShadowRun and went, "hey, that fits!" and licensed it. except that they owned fasa interactive and all that came with it already, so no need to license anything... |
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Oct 12 2009, 11:02 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Oct 12 2009, 05:23 PM) except that they owned fasa interactive and all that came with it already, so no need to license anything... Touche. |
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Oct 13 2009, 12:18 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 825 Joined: 21-October 08 Member No.: 16,538 |
QUOTE (tete @ Oct 12 2009, 05:56 PM) There was an old shadowrun book or possibly in the shadowlands magazine where an npc had 7 essence when you did the math but I think that was an elf. Otherwise yeah your thinking of edge. Harlequin has 9 or so, I think. |
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Oct 13 2009, 01:49 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 175 Joined: 22-September 09 From: Ohio Member No.: 17,661 |
For the record, if you can separate the name "Shadowrun" from the Xbox/PC game, get over the misuse of a few common SR terms, and just take it how it comes, it's a fun little diversion for a few days. As a shooter is it entertaining? Yes, but as a "Shadowrun" game it fails miserably.
Things I liked: The pistol is clearly an Ares Predator, the SMG looks like an HK227, the Smartlink works how I expected it to, the summoned creature is clearly an Elemental spirit of some kind, the katana is fun for a few minutes Things I hated: Pretty much everything else. Also for the record, I only spent $6 on mine, which was about what it was worth. |
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Oct 13 2009, 07:56 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 704 Joined: 20-November 06 From: The seemingly unknown area of land between Seattle and Idaho. Member No.: 9,910 |
QUOTE (Joe Chummer @ Oct 12 2009, 08:49 PM) For the record, if you can separate the name "Shadowrun" from the Xbox/PC game, get over the misuse of a few common SR terms, and just take it how it comes, it's a fun little diversion for a few days. As a shooter is it entertaining? Yes, but as a "Shadowrun" game it fails miserably. Things I liked: The pistol is clearly an Ares Predator, the SMG looks like an HK227, the Smartlink works how I expected it to, the summoned creature is clearly an Elemental spirit of some kind, the katana is fun for a few minutes Things I hated: Pretty much everything else. Also for the record, I only spent $6 on mine, which was about what it was worth. That is why I put it in the category of "Things that were great until somebody fragged it up." |
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