no Leprechauns?, wo be the wee folk |
no Leprechauns?, wo be the wee folk |
Jan 13 2010, 06:59 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,424 Joined: 7-December 09 From: Freedonia Member No.: 17,952 |
so out of all the critters listed and even ones specifically made out of Irish folklore (even the Nac Mac Feegles) but no Leprechauns. Anyone else bothered by this?
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Jan 13 2010, 07:04 PM
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Street Doc Group: Admin Posts: 3,508 Joined: 2-March 04 From: Neverwhere Member No.: 6,114 |
They would likely be a stylized spirit of man or possibly a task spirit. Alternately you could just use the rules for Domovoi with different fluff and the Wealth power.
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Jan 14 2010, 03:14 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
right, if you look at folk lore of faeries there are a great many small spirits that are similar in appearance and behavior but have diffenret names in differnet areas. For example the Knockers, Cornish fey who live in mines are very simialr to German Wichlen, Welsh Coblynaus and French Gommes.
Similaly the russian Domovoi is pretty close to the Danish nis, Scottish brownie and english Hob. Heck there's even a similar chinese spirit called Choa Phum Phi (fee fi foe fum?) The point is that many differneces in spirts are more on how they are seen by big folk, not necessarily themselves. So possibly the leprecaun is out there, but modern metahuanity has just failed to recognize it as such because they've already slapped a label on it. OR if they truly are spirits of magic and air then possibly there are more wonders to come as the mana level rises and perhaps more such creatures return from legend. |
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Jan 14 2010, 03:25 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
I can't think of leprechauns without Warwick Davis these days.
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Jan 14 2010, 03:54 AM
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Street Doc Group: Admin Posts: 3,508 Joined: 2-March 04 From: Neverwhere Member No.: 6,114 |
You just had to go there, didn't you AH? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)
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Jan 14 2010, 05:11 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 560 Joined: 4-March 06 From: Pueblo Corporate Council Member No.: 8,332 |
They're a race, in my world. Of course the only one that PCs have ever run into was an immortal...
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Jan 14 2010, 05:36 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 704 Joined: 20-November 06 From: The seemingly unknown area of land between Seattle and Idaho. Member No.: 9,910 |
I'd bundle them into the same group as pixies.
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Jan 14 2010, 07:40 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,748 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Good ol' Germany Member No.: 7,015 |
to German Wichlen
Welll its Wichtel (or Wichtelmännchen the End 'männchen means little or tiny man) in German (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) he who dances in German Medicineman |
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Jan 14 2010, 09:07 AM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
I'd bundle them into the same group as pixies. i think they make take a offense to that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) for some reason i keep connecting them to this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colm_Meaney maybe because of this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Magical_L...the_Leprechauns |
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Jan 14 2010, 02:51 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,851 Joined: 15-February 08 From: Indianapolis Member No.: 15,686 |
There was a spot illio of leprechaun slaves in the Tir na Nog sourcebook. But, to my knowledge, they were never statted in any edition.
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Jan 14 2010, 05:46 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,424 Joined: 7-December 09 From: Freedonia Member No.: 17,952 |
Leprechaun slaves? Wo be to the Slavers when the Lep uprising comes...
and Davis is the coolest Lep ever! I just wish his movies weren't such Heroic Tragedies, it would be nice for the hero to have won once at least. |
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Jan 14 2010, 05:59 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 663 Joined: 30-June 06 From: Memphis, TN Member No.: 8,811 |
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Jan 14 2010, 09:22 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 647 Joined: 9-September 03 From: Sorø, Denmark Member No.: 5,604 |
Similaly the russian Domovoi is pretty close to the Danish nis, Scottish brownie and english Hob. Heck there's even a similar chinese spirit called Choa Phum Phi (fee fi foe fum?) The pixie/brownie/hob is called nisse in Danish. Nis is a name which 863 males was called in 2009. Lars |
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Jan 14 2010, 11:02 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
i think they make take a offense to that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) for some reason i keep connecting them to this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colm_Meaney maybe because of this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Magical_L...the_Leprechauns Made me think of this movie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Luck_of_t...%282001_film%29 |
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Jan 15 2010, 12:25 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 602 Joined: 2-December 07 From: The corner of Detonation Boulevard and Fascination Street Member No.: 14,464 |
Made me think of this movie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Luck_of_t...%282001_film%29 Gee, don't know how I missed that one. probably came out at the same time as the Meatballs 2 and I was still puking from the experience. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) |
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Jan 15 2010, 02:01 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 411 Joined: 10-June 09 From: Minneapolis, MN Member No.: 17,268 |
I just pretty much took the suggestion above of slightly modifying existing spirit stats (I think I used a domovoi baseline). Only have had one appear so far: an Unseelie-aligned Ms Johnson calling herself Kia, who has a tendency to just appear wherever. Like when you're showering. And yes, I know traditionally leprechauns are depicted as male; she'd have a little speech to respond to anyone bringing that up with her. Her stats haven't come up so far, though, so it really hasn't mattered.
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Jan 15 2010, 02:31 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
The pixie/brownie/hob is called nisse in Danish. Nis is a name which 863 males was called in 2009. Lars 863 males? Ok I don't speak Danish and my usual source seems to have dropped off the face of the earth but the theory is still pretty solid. Just change my example in Denmark to 'Nisse' and we're good to go. |
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Jan 15 2010, 04:32 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 663 Joined: 30-June 06 From: Memphis, TN Member No.: 8,811 |
so out of all the critters listed and even ones specifically made out of Irish folklore (even the Nac Mac Feegles) but no Leprechauns. Anyone else bothered by this? Stated them out as a Dwarf Metavarient. Kind of a generic catch all for all the Wee Folk legends from across the globe. Thanks to everyone for some of the names to use. I started a new thread for them Here. The Wee Folk. |
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Jan 17 2010, 09:20 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 858 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Braunschweig, North German League, Allied German States Member No.: 5,537 |
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