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> So, I saw Sucker Punch..., All spoilers, obviously
Wounded Ronin
post Apr 2 2011, 02:59 PM
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So yesterday night I took a young lady out and we saw Sucker Punch. Even though it is a new release there was hardly anyone in the theater so it might not be doing well.

The film was weird. I mean, if you know my posts, I appreciate weird and quirky things, but this film was just exceedingly bizarre. Steampunk German World War I zombies...lead by German World War I Freddie Kreuger? Versus girls in sexy dance outfits equipped with contemporary rifles and submachineguns, and a mecha?

Also, I noticed in the first hallucinatory fight scene against the giant samurai that the protagonist doesn't ride the safety on her 1911 with her thumb, which is what you're supposed to do.

I just mentally don't know what to do with that.

My biggest thought during the movie was duing the scene where the evil pimp who reminds me of Andrew Ryan from Bioshock executes two girls in the changing room with a 1911. They have this whole elaborate plan to escape from the facility by stealing a map, setting a fire, and so on, but all they really needed to do was rush the pimp and stab him with the stolen knife while he was standing in front of them and handling the 1911, and get control of the 1911. He was waving it around and talking and if he were behaving in that manner it would be relatively easy to disarm him. Also, after he executed the two girls, and he was dangling the 1911 between his thumb and index finger and saying how he didn't like guns, it would have been absolutely easy for someone to simply snatch it away from him.

Simple plans are usually best.
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post Apr 2 2011, 03:11 PM
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Well, to be fair, she literally is a mental patient.
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post Apr 2 2011, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Apr 2 2011, 10:11 AM) *
Well, to be fair, she literally is a mental patient.


LOL, very true. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif)
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post Apr 2 2011, 08:16 PM
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It was a fun movie to watch and seemed complex. The whole dance/war scenes kinda through me until I realized it was the same story just from different patients PoVs. There was a shocking undertone with the "dance scenes".

Overall fun movie, glad I saw it. Will probably get it when it comes out on DVD.
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post Apr 2 2011, 11:37 PM
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i watched the movie because i did not have to pay and because i did not think the movie could be as bad as the critics made it up to be . .
boy was i wrong . . hard to believe that it's from the same guy who did watchmen . .
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post Apr 3 2011, 02:54 PM
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So one up vote, one down. WR, is it worth my $30 (myself, the wife, and a bag of smarties?)
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post Apr 3 2011, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE (nezumi @ Apr 3 2011, 09:54 AM) *
So one up vote, one down. WR, is it worth my $30 (myself, the wife, and a bag of smarties?)


Well to be fair I probably spent around that much to take a girl out to see it, but the point of that exercise was moreso to take someone out than to see that film.

I think I'd feel a bit pissed if I spent $30 bucks to see that film, because on the whole it simply wasn't that good. It's all visuals and no content, IMO.
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post Apr 3 2011, 05:10 PM
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You need to take into consideration what your woman will think of the movie and you watching it too . .
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post Apr 4 2011, 03:22 AM
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So... wait for Netflix?

I have a 46" HDTV so I can approximate the theatre experience. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)



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post Apr 4 2011, 06:15 AM
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QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Apr 2 2011, 04:59 PM) *
So yesterday night I took a young lady out

Congratulations, Mr. Ronin. I hope things went/will go well.
As for the movie, I haven't seen it, but from the trailer it looks like the girls don't have big enough breasts for a correct Macho Women With Guns movie.
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post Apr 4 2011, 06:19 AM
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QUOTE (Blade @ Apr 3 2011, 10:15 PM) *
Congratulations, Mr. Ronin. I hope things went/will go well.
As for the movie, I haven't seen it, but from the trailer it looks like the girls don't have big enough breasts for a correct Macho Women With Guns movie.

Not every young woman can do the boobs of steel thing.
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post Apr 4 2011, 12:03 PM
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Saw it yesterday too. On th overall I enjoyed the movie. Also, you never see Rocket, Blondie or Amber when she enters the hospital, but you do see Sweet Pea. The other three are supposed to be archetypes of Bay Doll's feelings or something.
Besides, the soundtrack is really good.
Just my two (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif)
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post Apr 4 2011, 04:11 PM
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How many of you liked Mission: Impossible, the Matrix series ... or better yet, Inception?

Yeah, this movie is basicly Inception, only as you go down the levels in the dream, the action goes up. And it doesn't feature men as the main characters. And there are sensei, samurias, cyborgs, zombies, nazis, dragons, orcs, pimps, moulin rouge, tactical nukes, mechs, military hardware fantasy porn...

I loved the movie, a definite to buy when it comes out on DVD for me.

I remember laughing (in my head) at the comments of other audience members when leaving the theatre from M:I, Matrix, and Inception as well, I don't really find myself caring that a movie that was a absolutely entertaining blast that somehow was too subtle for them to get when it felt like it was practically screaming its theme at me, especially when the character and tone of the music was still going with a big black screen at the end that pretty much forces the viewer to focus on the voice... Or maybe its just a theme that seems played out with audiences? That would seem bizarre to me, that's a theme that has been going pretty much since epic poems. *shrugs*

And the critics are almost always wrong, when do they ever have anything good to say unless the movie's producer sent their favourite hooker to their hotel room or it tickles their "art" fetish?
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post Apr 4 2011, 05:23 PM
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I greatly enjoyed the movie and thought it worth the cost of admission. That said, it is not for everyone. See comments above. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif)
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post Apr 4 2011, 08:40 PM
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Oh come on. The first matrix movie had both great visuals and pertinent social commentary. They went downhill after the first movie.
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post Apr 4 2011, 08:52 PM
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What are you talking about?
There was only one Matrix movie.
There were only 3 Indiana Jones, Die Hard and Star Wars Movies.
I CAN'T HEAR YOU! LA LA LA!
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post Apr 5 2011, 12:27 AM
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It's telling that anytime I watch the other Matrix movies, I just fast-forward to the action parts. Those were cool.

The rest, not so much.



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post Apr 5 2011, 01:17 AM
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The only good part of the Matrix squeals was that I was able to use the Multi-Smith Attack on Neo as a good analogy to idi... Er, Less Computer Educated as a description of what a DDoS attack is.
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post Apr 5 2011, 01:39 AM
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I loved the first half and then ending the middle was shitty. I loved the movie. It is honestly good the lack of language is quite powerful, though where it is used early on it is quite good. I last half is what lets it down.

Personally I'm garbing the DVD on day 1. The opening was brilliant no talking but you got the entire story as to the set up. Zack defiantly knows how to tell a story with visualizes though he most likely needs to work on getting interaction solid and well centered.
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post Apr 5 2011, 01:44 AM
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QUOTE (Blade @ Apr 4 2011, 02:15 AM) *
Congratulations, Mr. Ronin. I hope things went/will go well.


Well, thank you very much. I am making a concerted effort to work on my personal growth and development and one way in which I am doing this is by learning about relationships.
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post Apr 5 2011, 01:45 AM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Apr 4 2011, 09:17 PM) *
The only good part of the Matrix squeals was that I was able to use the Multi-Smith Attack on Neo as a good analogy to idi... Er, Less Computer Educated as a description of what a DDoS attack is.


I thought it was a representation of armies of 60 year old office workers making silly calls in to tech support.
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post Apr 5 2011, 01:46 AM
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I get up in the morning. That alone is major personal growth and development. Everything else after that is gravy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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post Apr 7 2011, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Apr 2 2011, 09:59 AM) *
My biggest thought during the movie was duing the scene where the evil pimp who reminds me of Andrew Ryan from Bioshock executes two girls in the changing room with a 1911. They have this whole elaborate plan to escape from the facility by stealing a map, setting a fire, and so on, but all they really needed to do was rush the pimp and stab him with the stolen knife while he was standing in front of them and handling the 1911, and get control of the 1911. He was waving it around and talking and if he were behaving in that manner it would be relatively easy to disarm him. Also, after he executed the two girls, and he was dangling the 1911 between his thumb and index finger and saying how he didn't like guns, it would have been absolutely easy for someone to simply snatch it away from him.

Simple plans are usually best.


Because the Evil Pimp was really just an unarmed orderly and he doesn't really have a gun.

Also, Baby Doll's inability to save the imaginary girls is a metaphor for the depression and learned helplessness produced by years of abuse at the hands of her stepfather and ultimately her inability to save her sister due to her actual tactical ineptitude, which is what drives her to sacrifice herself in the end.


She holds her 1911 incorrectly because she doesn't know how to hold it. She isn't a badass warrior. She's a little girl who has been raped repeatedly by her stepfather, who accidentally accidentally killed her sister trying to protect her from the same fate, and who was thrown into a mental institution because she didn't have the fortitude to speak up and tell the truth. She needs to pretend that she's a badass warrior so that she has the strength to go through with her plan, but it's all a lie.

Well, it's probably all a lie. With the Wise Man showing up at the end, and the anachronisms in the dream world battle sequences it is possible that they were all real somehow.

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post Apr 7 2011, 10:24 PM
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The thing to ask is: What is reality?
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post Apr 7 2011, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Apr 7 2011, 07:24 PM) *
The thing to ask is: What is reality?


Shadows cast on the cave's walls.
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