 The Ancient Files: New Tricks |
 May 14 2006, 11:16 PM
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Great Dragon  Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935  |
Heya shadowkids. I swear y'all get younger every year. Probably knew you when you were shadowsperm and cyberovum in the deep dark subclauses of the most wide-ranging DocWagon contracts...I can see the advert now "Why list your next of kin when our fine range of surrogate mothers can make you one?" Yeah...
Sorry, the mind does ramble on. Anyway, got a couple new updates on the website. Do tell me what you think. Oh, and anyone wants to give me some feedback on the top two of the old Best Of page, would appreciate it. |
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May 14 2006, 11:37 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
"Things to Come" : :love:
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May 15 2006, 12:25 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Heh. You're so easy.
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May 15 2006, 12:28 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 21-July 05 From: Seattle Member No.: 7,508 |
Regarding the "Things to Come", wasn't there speculation that the "infant" they're refering to was Arthur (of the famous sword-in-the-stone fashion)? And that "Ambrose was supposedly 'merlin' and watched over the little tyke? Hmm?
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May 15 2006, 12:35 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Heard the Ambrose == Ambrosius == Merlin angle. Hadn't heard the Arthur angle. Sounds good. I'll add that in.
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May 15 2006, 01:06 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 21-July 05 From: Seattle Member No.: 7,508 |
You just need to watch more Disney movies. :)
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May 15 2006, 01:07 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
That's T.H. White. merlin Ambrosius was Geofery of Monmouth.
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May 15 2006, 01:15 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 256 Joined: 24-October 04 Member No.: 6,784 |
You won't be happy untill you have singled handedly created the Denver Data Haven, will you AH?
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May 15 2006, 03:19 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
Crash 2.0 occured in 2064, not 2065.
Oh, and the ghoul in DMZ looks like an undead zombie rather than one of the Infected. Vampires are also the same regardless of race, as opposed to later in SR2 onward where each race has its own variant expression when exposed to the different strains of HMHVV. |
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May 15 2006, 03:52 AM
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Man In The Machine Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,264 Joined: 26-February 02 From: I-495 S Member No.: 1,105 |
*thoughtfull sigh* Spinecrusher, breaker of souls. I love Sr sometimes.
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May 15 2006, 04:31 AM
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Creating a god with his own hands Group: Members Posts: 1,405 Joined: 30-September 02 From: 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 Member No.: 3,364 |
I think some of the hardware junkies around here could arrange that... ;) |
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May 15 2006, 05:00 AM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
Heheheh...
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May 15 2006, 08:17 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Sometimes, yes. :D |
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May 15 2006, 08:17 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 7-December 02 Member No.: 3,698 |
I just want to mention re: "A Handy Guide to the Shadowrun Multiverse" that DMZ had the best cover in SR history.
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May 15 2006, 09:28 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 681 Joined: 28-February 06 From: UK Member No.: 8,319 |
Great stuff as ever, AH. I'd wondered about the chapter title 'Singularity' in System Failure. Makes sense now.
This seems like a crucial paragraph. Sounds to me like 'new cosmos' is referring specifically to the Matrix, not to the modern world in general (but then you could still interpret it the other way). But if so what is the parallel 'old cosmos'? Anything to do with the source of JackBNimble?..
Do you know which writer wrote this exchange? (EDIT: 'Things to come' I mean) 2nd EDIT: Ah must have been Paul Hume I guess. Nevermind. |
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May 15 2006, 11:01 AM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
ah, virtual realitys 2.0, i love that opening text...
but im not so sure i like the connection that ambrose = leonardo (the elf) = merlin (of the arthur legend). and yes i know that you didnt do that connection in the text, but its not that long of a stretch now is it? and must confess, "plus ca change" have become my general response to must real world happenings these days ;) btw, a small typo. in your transcript of the VR2.0 text you have this line: "Cind can rip out a computer core like a trigress" i checked the book and the word trigress is supposed to be tigress ;) |
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May 15 2006, 11:56 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Fixed.
Tell truth, I always figured Karl Heinz-Zessler was Ambrose. |
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May 15 2006, 12:06 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 934 Joined: 26-August 05 From: Earth - Europe - AGS - Norddeutscher Bund - Hannover Member No.: 7,624 |
I am pretty sure the name is Karl-Heinz Zessler. Karl-Heinz is a combination of two German first names heavily used in the 40s and 50s of the 20th century.
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May 15 2006, 12:25 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 684 Joined: 8-April 06 From: My dorm room Member No.: 8,438 |
Yeah, but the name of that famous ketchup corp would indicate that Heinz can also be a last name.
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May 15 2006, 12:32 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 934 Joined: 26-August 05 From: Earth - Europe - AGS - Norddeutscher Bund - Hannover Member No.: 7,624 |
It can be, yes. But the names Karl and Heinz are so often connected with a "-" that it is unlikely.
EDIT: http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=%22Hei...essler%22&meta= |
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May 15 2006, 12:51 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 684 Joined: 8-April 06 From: My dorm room Member No.: 8,438 |
Fine, I concede. But you can't blame a native English speaker for making that mistake!
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go eat some ketchup. :P |
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May 15 2006, 03:09 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
guess i have to look up who he is.. |
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May 15 2006, 03:16 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 53 Joined: 4-December 02 From: Ankeny, IA Member No.: 3,684 |
I really do enjoy your annotations AH, and this set was no different!
Personally, I feel good about the Ambrose = Merlin analogy, and taking it no further (no Leonardo, for instance). I think that the EDSR universe needs to dwell just a bit more on one of historical mythology's most prominent sorcerors. Especially, as you pointed out, in light of the Excalibur reference in POaD. Argh! You make me miss running ShadowRun! Maybe after my EarthDawn Campaign finally wraps... *patience* --PenAgain I should probably talk less to myself. I'll work on that. |
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May 15 2006, 05:50 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 24-August 02 From: Magna, Ute Nation Member No.: 3,166 |
Good Job AH, as always. I love your site.
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May 17 2006, 02:58 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 207 Joined: 3-November 05 From: KCMO Member No.: 7,922 |
Couple of typos here - add "t" to "that" in front of "Ambrose" Excalibur is misspelled Very cool stuff!!! |
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May 17 2006, 03:31 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
One nation under ogd. D'oh!
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May 17 2006, 04:42 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
I think that the other interpretation of JackBNimble being from 'another world' as in the 4th world would make things very interesting. No idea how it would be (although you could pull up Leonardo again) but interesting.
AH, I really like the synposious of the ED Lost novels. I've been wanting to get those for a long time, but once they came out, it was always one of those things that you only remember when you don't have money. So thanks for that. Still begging for a horror rundown like the dragons one, but I'll be grateful for what we've got. :D |
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May 17 2006, 05:06 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,987 Joined: 1-March 05 From: République Libre du Québec Member No.: 7,129 |
What I'm pointing out is in the Annotated "Things to Come". I don't know if it matters (probably doesn't) but the correct french proverb (it actually exists, it wasn't invented for SR ;)) is: "Plus ça change, plus c'est pareil". It doesn't do much, but I thought I should point it out. |
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May 17 2006, 10:23 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Was Leonardo around at the 4th age? (Hopefully not) |
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May 17 2006, 10:36 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Sorta, kinda, yeah. See his entry in Immortals.
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May 17 2006, 10:38 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Where's that information from? |
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May 17 2006, 10:54 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Well, you could do a word search on the same page, but it was in the Sky Point & Vivane boxed set.
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May 17 2006, 11:01 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
I feel so stupid right now.... Thank you for your help (it's early in the morning here ;) ).
note to myself: read the books again. Soon. |
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May 17 2006, 11:09 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
note to self: get the Sky Point & Vivane boxed set.
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May 17 2006, 11:17 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
:D
It's worth the money, even though BaW changes everything. ;) |
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May 17 2006, 11:53 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
Prelude to War is one of my favorite modules. Just thought I'd share that. :)
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May 17 2006, 12:00 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
PtW is great, one of the best campaigns I ever played. BaW is dull compared to it, especially since the guys at LRG made some major changes and wrote it up poorly. But the main parts are in it and make for a good epic campaign, even though it's railroading as hell. War leads to railroading ;)
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May 17 2006, 12:23 PM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
Maybe we shoudl try to talk AH into wrting up somethign about the rise and fall of various cities in the 4th age. Doens't really cross over so well, but it would still be interesting to see what he can do with it.
AH, you weren't planning on having a life, were you? You're needed to much here! |
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May 17 2006, 05:09 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Life? I have a life outside of school and freelancing? Was there a memo involved in this?
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May 17 2006, 05:24 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
ok now that just gets my neckhair to stand on end. a elf in the 4th world trys to develop magic based on light. leonardo shows up and sells renraku deck designs. and all computing is done opticaly in SR... |
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May 17 2006, 05:49 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
It's cheesy, no question. But you can ignore it easily (I did so).
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