 New Equipment: Wrist-mounted pistol reloaders, For the Grammaton Cleric in you |
 Nov 30 2006, 01:27 AM
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Dragon  Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019  |
This was inspired by the movie Equilibrium. In the badass gunfight at the end, Preston reloads his pistols by using little machines mounted on his wrists. I would say that they make reloading pistols a free action.
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Nov 30 2006, 01:27 AM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
...KK wants a pair.
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Nov 30 2006, 01:30 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
Doesn't everybody?
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Nov 30 2006, 01:32 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
I don't mind the way Lara Croft reloads in the first Tomb Raider movie either.
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Nov 30 2006, 01:34 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
Don't remember that movie, don't want to.
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Nov 30 2006, 01:43 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,458 Joined: 22-March 03 From: I am a figment of my own imagination. Member No.: 4,302 |
It was actually quite a slick method, the Lara Croft way... clips set right in her belt so she just drops the existing clips (Smartlinked with ease), then slaps the pistols down onto the ones on her belt to reload... very SR-friendly, that...
And even if the move was schlock I value my Angelina time... |
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Nov 30 2006, 01:56 AM
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Chicago Survivor Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,079 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 6,033 |
Though I am ever impressed by the subtle CG to enhance her breasticles.
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Nov 30 2006, 03:43 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 271 Joined: 18-April 06 Member No.: 8,481 |
Well, you could certainly have auto reloaders in the 2070's. I don't think they'd make reloading a free action though - smartlinked ejecting the clip is a free action, since you do it mentally and the clip falls out of the gun in the blink of an eye. But a reloader device would need to take the time to fully insert the clip and lock it home, which seems unlikely to be nearly as fast to me.
Anyway, you only get one free action in an init pass so even if you could reload as a free, you've already spent your free ejecting clips. So it really, in most cases, wouldn't matter if you had an auto reload or just used your hands, since it would still eat up a simple action, whether the auto reload cost a free or a simple. |
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Nov 30 2006, 04:35 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Unless, of course, a person was to use their Free Action from the Pass before to eject the clip after having emptied it, thereby leaving his full allotment of Actions to use from his current Pass. ;) |
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Nov 30 2006, 02:07 PM
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Old Man Jones Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,415 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
Seems really the only time saved is that you can load two pistols simultaneously.
Neither example showed the person involved taking much less time than it normally does to smartlink-eject a clip and slap in a fresh one. -karma |
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Nov 30 2006, 02:39 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,150 Joined: 19-December 05 From: Rhein-Ruhr Megaplex Member No.: 8,081 |
Most persons have a device for reloading, called The Other Hand™. But it would come in handy for those gunfu types, since their Other Hand™ isn't free at the time :D.
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Nov 30 2006, 02:49 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
SR4 does already feature forearm-mounted system that puts it's content into your hand at a free action. It's called a 'Hidden Arm Slide', imagine. The only thing left to do is to install a clip as a pistol-sized weapon (which is ok as you can throw clips, making them improvised thorwing weapons)... and a bit of training. |
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Nov 30 2006, 03:17 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,333 Joined: 19-August 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9,168 |
But it's COOL! Or even, if Emo will excuse the infringement, AWESOME |
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Nov 30 2006, 04:08 PM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
...Yeah but In actuality, it should only work with light pistols. After debating this topic on another thread, it does seem ridiculous that a 10" barrel Super Warhawk could be stuffed under someone's sleeve (unless they were a Troll wearing a caftan - now there's a scary thought). KK has since dumped the arm slides and gone with the standard holster (fits her "bushido cowgirl" image better) However a wrist mounted auto speed loader, now that sounds neat. At least gives her two more loads for those extra long fire fights. |
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Nov 30 2006, 04:50 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 749 Joined: 28-July 05 Member No.: 7,526 |
it never ceases to amaze me that people can think the fight scenes in equilibrium (or ultraviolet, for the same reasons) are anything but laugh out loud comedy.
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Nov 30 2006, 04:53 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Why? Why couldn't it be adapted to hold clips? Or a Stun Baton? Or a club sandwich. Seems to me that the wording is deliberately left vague (pistol-sized object) in the description to facilitate this very thing. |
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Nov 30 2006, 04:59 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
I love the part where he spins the guns in the dudes' hands and then shoots them in the face with them. It is AWESOME, so AWESOME that I headbutted my dog in the face so hard we both cried. And then the captains like "What?" |
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Nov 30 2006, 05:04 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
I think KK meant light pistols as opposed to heavy pistols, rather than light pistols as opposed to a variety of other small and useful-to-have-up-your-sleeves objects. |
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Nov 30 2006, 05:10 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
IIRC, this scene is performed by Bale himself, as the stuntman wasn't able to do it.
Extendable batons. ;) |
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Nov 30 2006, 05:34 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Yeah. I kinda figured that when I re-read the post after I made my response, but I didn't edit it just in case. My excuse for any misunderstanding ... I just got up! :P :D |
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Nov 30 2006, 05:45 PM
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Old Man Jones Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,415 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
The whole scene is done by Bale, from the initial spinning rifles to the upside-down-twin-pistols somersault (assisted by a springboard) to the close combat fire with a half dozen troopers. He did most of his own stunt work for the movie. -karma |
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Nov 30 2006, 05:47 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
Dude, how did they make the rifles spin?
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Nov 30 2006, 05:51 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,458 Joined: 22-March 03 From: I am a figment of my own imagination. Member No.: 4,302 |
My guess would be midgets.
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Nov 30 2006, 06:03 PM
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Old Man Jones Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,415 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
I think they just hung the rifles by fishing line, so when the barrels get smacked they spin around to point at their former users. The DVD commentary wasn't too specific about HOW they did the scenes, just that Bale did much of the stuntwork himself. Partly because he wanted/was willing to do it, partly cos they had like hardly any budget. -karma |
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Nov 30 2006, 06:05 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Magic!
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