 World of Warcraft, Hi, my name is Lindt, and Im an adict |
 Jan 16 2007, 06:22 AM
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Man In The Machine  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,264 Joined: 26-February 02 From: I-495 S Member No.: 1,105  |
So, just a show of hands, how many of you where also waiting in line tonight to pick up the expansion?
And yes, Im waiting for the patch to install... |
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Jan 16 2007, 06:26 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,086 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 364 |
I was wondering why we hardly ever see you around anymore. Now I know.
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Jan 16 2007, 08:58 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 745 Joined: 12-August 06 Member No.: 9,097 |
Eww, monthly fee. Eww, level grinding.
Aw, I can't hate on WoW. The little firebreathing, leg humping mini-Diablo was just too awesome for words. |
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Jan 16 2007, 11:27 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 1-December 06 Member No.: 10,116 |
I fear the monster has gotten me too :(
Cause several of my friends play it.. it began with a simple trial account. 'Just to see what all the fuss is about'. Now I've fallen to depths only Sonic the Hedgehog and Pac Man can understand: VG Cats There was one with Sonic the Hedgehog snorting crushed rings at one point. But it seems Kurt took that one down too. I really dont get why he keeps taking down old VGcats comics like that. Cause it's not all of them. Just certain ones (Check out the archives numbering. You'll see quite a few gaps there where he's removed certain comics from the archives) |
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Jan 16 2007, 02:37 PM
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ghostrider Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,196 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333 |
Ech. All this expansion means for me is that I won't be seeing any of my friends for the next few months. Yes, these would be the friends that would be in my gaming group, which would probably exist were it not for their ridiculous level of addiction to WoW.
But the leg-humping Diablo is pretty damn funny. (I actually have very little against the game itself; just the usual "I don't want to continually pay for a video game" and such. It's the social and psychological ramifications that make me want to hurl.) |
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Jan 17 2007, 04:12 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 533 Joined: 26-February 02 From: In a hot tub, with lots of bubbles and champagne waiting for you. Member No.: 1,972 |
after work i went to compusa just to look around and saw their display for the expansion pack. I had forgotten all about it. I quit wow several months ago for several reasons one of which is no endgame content for the casual gamer. I don't have time to devote 5 hours to do one instance, though i hear with the expansion comes smaller grouping instances.
monthly fee isn't too appealing either, i've found some online games that don't charge a monthly fee and i'm happy. still if there is enough new stuff...what kind of new stuff will this expansion bring? |
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Jan 17 2007, 06:45 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 1-December 06 Member No.: 10,116 |
Eh, they added some new arena system, a new profession class (Jewler) so now PCs can craft rings, neclaces and such with bonuses on them too. Some are one shot or use charges.
They've also added a whole new continent. I dont know however, how much they -really- added in overall. I dunno. With expansions, when i'm paying a monthly fee I dont tend to care much for it. I like it alot better like with EVE ONline. I pay a monthly fee, but when an expansion comes out everyone gets it for 'free'. Afterall the development costs come out of that monthly fee your paying. So does all the new server equipment their putting in etc. And if a game like EVE can do that purely off their monthly subcription fees a game like WOW sure as hell can too. WOW afterall has oodles more subscribers than EVE (I think EVE clocks in at about 100k subscribers currently and rising) |
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Jan 18 2007, 04:03 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 745 Joined: 12-August 06 Member No.: 9,097 |
While we're on the topic of MMORPGs, does anyone here happen to play Guild Wars? I just picked up the game over winter break and so far I'm having a blast. There's a lot less grind than WoW (shit, I got to the max level in less than a week), and it's supposed to be really skill-based and PvP-oriented. I'm still busy kicking monster ass and progressing in the main storyline, but I definitely plan on giving their PvP content a shot sometime in the future.
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Jan 18 2007, 04:45 AM
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ghostrider Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,196 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333 |
Ah yes, PvP. Not my thing.
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Jan 18 2007, 04:46 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 745 Joined: 12-August 06 Member No.: 9,097 |
What, you don't like pwnz0r1ng n00blets or something?
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Jan 18 2007, 04:54 AM
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Man In The Machine Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,264 Joined: 26-February 02 From: I-495 S Member No.: 1,105 |
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Jan 18 2007, 02:51 PM
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ghostrider Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,196 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333 |
Nope. It just doesn't appeal to me. If I don't want somebody messing with the character that I've spent a lot of time putting together, leveling, etc., why would I get any pleasure out of messing with someone else's? Not that I'm saying people that like PvP are badWrong or anything. Just not my style.
Go back a bit and make an alternate reality in which my friends all liked PvE and I might have ended up trying WoW. (But I still probably would have quit because of the same socio- and psychological aspects that bother me about it now.) |
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Jan 18 2007, 06:02 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 745 Joined: 12-August 06 Member No.: 9,097 |
Wait, why would you mess up someone's character? That's like saying you would break someone's chessboard by playing a game of chess with them. Sure, it might happen to the Hulk, but that ain't a problem for most people.
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Jan 18 2007, 07:01 PM
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ghostrider Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,196 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333 |
Bad choice of words on my part. Maybe "mess with their enjoyment of the game".
I know, people on a PvP server are by default agreeing to be messed with, and indeed it might be part of their enjoyment of the game. It's not for me, so I don't like PvP. |
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Jan 18 2007, 07:07 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,077 Joined: 14-September 04 Member No.: 6,658 |
PvP is bar none the most exciting experience there is to be had in WoW. Instances are cool for scripted encounters and awesome environments. And the world itself is incredibly detailed and varied and fun to explore.
But the AI is only so responsive. There's nothing quite like zoning in to an area knowing that there're real live people behind the enemies you'll face. That said, the game has experiences for everyone. Ridiculously broad appeal. That's 'uge. That's right, so big there's no room for the 'h.' |
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Jan 18 2007, 07:10 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
I'm with eidolon on this one. The best part of the game is the part I don't like. |
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Jan 18 2007, 07:14 PM
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The back-up plan Group: Retired Admins Posts: 8,423 Joined: 15-January 03 From: San Diego Member No.: 3,910 |
I didn't wait in line, but TBC made a good bid for eating my brain. It would have succeeded if I didn't have people IRL who yell at me to bump my threads.
PVP v PVE--I can see both sides of the argument. There are a lot of people who enjoy PvP more than PvE and vice versa. PvP has the dynamic that you rarely have the same experience twice, whereas grinding in PvE can really suck. Though PvP also lends itself to abuse in ways that PvE doesn't. I've seen AB teams camp the graveyard and not let anyone out to guarantee a 5 cap, similar situations have happened in AV. When this happens, I think that the fun of play is removed for the group that is fenced in without a chance to escape. |
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Jan 18 2007, 07:40 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
Yeah, I might enjoy PvP a lot more if all the other P's weren't SoB's. :D |
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Jan 18 2007, 08:07 PM
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ghostrider Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,196 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333 |
Sorry, didn't mean to imply that I was arguing. To me, both "sides" have equally valid reasons for feeling the way they do. Arguing about it is usually about like arguing PC vs. Mac or something.
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Jan 18 2007, 08:11 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
No you're WRONG! ;) I'm not saying that anyone who enjoys PvP has something wrong with them. I've enjoyed it from time to time. I'm just saying that it's not my favorite thing, largely because in most MMO's a minority of jerks ruin the experience for me. |
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Jan 18 2007, 08:41 PM
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The back-up plan Group: Retired Admins Posts: 8,423 Joined: 15-January 03 From: San Diego Member No.: 3,910 |
Eidolon--It's not that you were arguing, but rather that the conversation is a tried and true debate. There is no clear answer because each aspect of the game is heavily based off the individual's perception. |
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Jan 19 2007, 03:41 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 533 Joined: 26-February 02 From: In a hot tub, with lots of bubbles and champagne waiting for you. Member No.: 1,972 |
eve online. I saw that i could sign up for a free trial. How good is this game?
Guild wars-i have it, stopped playing it, then logged back on about a month ago to see what is what. I don't think i'll buy the expansions, it was good to an extent but i actually never really played the pvp aspect of it. Miffed that they changed the music in the ice cave place, i loved the old music :( wow-pve is awesome up till 60, then it is like ho hum. I had fun casualy gaming with a few friends, but i suffered alot from alt itis. PVP servers are fun if you don't mind being ganked and you will be ganked alot. PvE server (carebear) for me. battlegrounds are fun, save for the twinked, on the low side, and the uber don't have a life all epic outed acne teenagers on the high side. Fleh. |
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Jan 19 2007, 02:39 PM
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ghostrider Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,196 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333 |
Eve and Cities of Heroes/Villians are the only two that have ever even really piqued my interest. But alas, no single player versions. :)
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Jan 19 2007, 07:36 PM
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Old Man Jones Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,415 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
It's pretty, but requires a LOT of investment to get the most out of it. The economy is largely player-driven and fairly deep. Extensive crafting system. Skill increases are determined by real-world time rather than in-game earnings - you can only learn one skill at a time, and each rank of skill takes geometrically longer to learn. And there's dozens and dozens of skills, each with five ranks of proficiency. The one saving grace is that the skills continue to increase while you are off-line, bt even then, some ranks take literally days or weeks in real-time to train. The skill system is probably the one of the biggest hurdles that makes people quit. Instant gratification folks need not apply. As a side effect the impact of the inevitable cash-farming businesses is limited on the game economy, as all equipment have skill rank requirements. By the time you have the ranks to use a piece of equipment you likely can afford it just from the earnings you gain by playing. It has steep penalties for dying, though (If you aren't careful you can lose all your money, your ship, and even all your skills) and the best resource areas are mostly free-for-all PvP zones. There tends to be very tight knit social group in the game, however, as people band together for relative safety. The community is notoriously intolerant of the ignorant or foolish, though. It's not a game a person who's inexperienced with MMOGs is likely to enjoy. As a side note the developer, CCP Games, merged with White Wolf recently. How much you wanna bet a World of Darkness MMOG is in the offing?
Life as a 60 in WOW is dull unless you manage to get in a large guild or other group. Most of the high level content is centered around team sizes of 20-40 folks, something not easy to get as a pick-up group. As a side note, the Expansion has been dropping equipment that is largely better in most ways to anything in the original game. There are levels of equipment quality, Standard, Rare, Epic, etc each being better than the previous in terms of what it gives you at any given level. I have a lvl 60 character, spent the better part of a year raiding to get nice "epic" top-end gear. Within a single night of play in the new expansion at least a quarter of that gear was replaced by standard quality gear of similar level. A lot of folks are up in arms over the fact that they spent so much time and effort to earn the old epic gear, only to have it surpassed by ordinary gear that anyone can earn in five minutes solo. -karma |
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Jan 22 2007, 05:09 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 533 Joined: 26-February 02 From: In a hot tub, with lots of bubbles and champagne waiting for you. Member No.: 1,972 |
eve-i read up on it after finding the free offer. It piqued my interest on account that the instant gratification masses will usually quit, and not alot of juvenal antics. Seemed like a nice system set up, extensive and imersive crafting system sounds good. I'll have to look this over again
wow-lmao! funny to hear the expansion drops are more powerful than those guys that play 24/7 items are. Bet they raised hell knowing that all that time zoning out infront of the comp was all for naught. I'd go back on just to laugh at them :P I am rather bored and am looking to delve once again into online gaming. War Rock is a decent interest, but i'm looking forward to war hammer online, and the conan game. I really need to buy a new comp seeing as how this one is about 5 years old :P |
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