Show Biz..., assorted entertainment questions |
Show Biz..., assorted entertainment questions |
Jan 4 2004, 03:57 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Who owns Brilliant Genesis?
Secondly, what are some of the other Simsense/Entertainment companies are around, and who controls them? I'm quite interested in what Fuchi owned before they kicked off, and where those entertainment assets went afterwards. |
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Jan 4 2004, 08:21 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,311 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Calgary, Alberta Member No.: 2,062 |
SOTA: 2063 for recent stuff. Shadowbeat for pre-Fuchi stuff. |
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Jan 4 2004, 08:40 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,213 Joined: 10-March 02 From: Back from the abyss. Member No.: 2,316 |
Affiliated Artists Inc, AA, sort of Walt Disney for 2057
Amalgamated Studios, AA The company Angelic Entertainment, doesn't say but from descriptio could easily be AA, owned by S-K Boromaker, bottom rung possibile Yak/MCT backing Virtual World Disney, Treal Walt Disney for 2057 Brillant Genesis, is a Mob owned business. I'll try to find more on simesense studios. I seem to remember Truman Technologies went to Amalgamated and merged or something then later tried to split. I think they are tryign to get back into Chicago. |
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Jan 4 2004, 08:53 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,213 Joined: 10-March 02 From: Back from the abyss. Member No.: 2,316 |
Update
Truman Technologies went to Affiliated, along with Brilliant Genesis. But now that Bug-city isn't that bad any mre they are lookign to go back. Amalgamated was bought by the Pueblo, I guess that means the country. Another company from Nashville, CAS, TriVol is looking to get into the business they are supposed to have a division head from Amalagamated looking to jump ship and come over with a whole division named LivingWorld. Indies: VisionQuest, NBS, and Mediaworks. |
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Jan 4 2004, 09:10 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Thanks Frag-o Delux. :)
Is Brilliant Genesis still Mob-affiliated? You found no hint at all of any Fuchi involvement anywhere in the entertainment industry? :( Mike: If I had access to my books, I wouldn't have asked. :D |
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Jan 4 2004, 09:19 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,213 Joined: 10-March 02 From: Back from the abyss. Member No.: 2,316 |
I am still looking for the actual passage in the books that state BG is mob owned. I had a excel sheet with the company on it and it had a name and said mafia owned, it gave page numbers I am currently sifting through to confirm.
I am also still working on Fuchi. So far the only thing I can think of, is somethings went to Nova Tech, some Renraku, and some Shiawase. I can't confirm any of that just that roughly a third of the company(Fuchi) went to each of these other companies. Give me a little more time, I have all the books from first to third edition and I am trying to get as much as I can. Some of the stuff isn't even where you might think it is. :D |
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Jan 4 2004, 09:24 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 218 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Raleigh/Durham, CAS Member No.: 149 |
Heads up, doesn't the Corperate Download have like a list of what each mega owns at the start of it's section? You might be able to find a a couple of things there.
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Jan 4 2004, 09:25 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
There's a shock! :D I didn't realize you were still digging. I appreciate you taking the time to check this out for me. Thanks. :) |
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Jan 4 2004, 10:09 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,213 Joined: 10-March 02 From: Back from the abyss. Member No.: 2,316 |
I just remembered those books, they are currently not on my shelf, appearently my GM has them and I have forgoten.
But so far, all metions of of Novatech, Renraku, Shiawasie and Fuchi alway talk about the break up. So far I haven't been able to nail down anything entertainment related. NewsNet keeps comeing up, I believe they are an Azzie owned company, from the Azzie book. I also keep finding Brillant Genesis, none of which says they are still mob owned, butthey haven't placed the owners name on the article either so I don't know if he/she is different. So far for the megas I have only confirmed Cross Applied has Cross Entertainment and Multimedia. Yamatetsu Productions. I have found a number of small entertainment companies, Reliable Imaging (7 employees) working on some kind of new multi POV playback unit. ZOR Entertainment, a Seattle based company. Global Technologies, may also be GTC a simesense production company. I have found a few other record labels also: BMG, A/P who is in a legal battle with Ersatz! I found several production companies with the current top simsense movies: ArtHuas Dreamcathcer Studios GTC DeMeKo, I din't remember where I heard this name before but I have a feeling they are tied to organized crime. Orions Belt Studios Quark Studios New Star partially owned by Global Technologies. Only the ABS production was label "indy" but I haven't found anything that tes these studios to anyone else yet. I remember reading a lot about AZT owning huge amounts of entertainment companies but since I don't ahve my Corporate Download or Corporate Shadow Files, I have yet to find anything on the Megas. EDIT: Fortune no problem I am sitting here bored as hell anyway. :D |
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Jan 4 2004, 11:15 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,213 Joined: 10-March 02 From: Back from the abyss. Member No.: 2,316 |
MCT: MCT Media, MCT Music Confederated Broadcasting Corporation 18% MCT, adn Media Sim.
MCT Media: Sakura Studios and Soonan Simsense. NewsNet has been placed into the hands of Hisato-Turner, which I still believe is an AZT company I just remeber some shadow talk talking about how the CAS citizens would flip out if they ever found out. NewsNet owns SatNet and NostalgiaVid. Optical Dreams and Televisa are owned by AZT. ABS is appearently owned by Tansnational Communictaions, I ma not sure who owns them though. Truman Technologies owns Simsense Systems and ESP Systems. Reality Studios: Novatech National Trideo Network is owned by Adams-Westlake Mediaworks, I can't find if this Mediaworks is the same as MCT's Mediaworks. Yamatetsu owns the Phillippines Broadcasting Network. Ares owns NBC. Fuchi Simsense went with Shiawase in the shake up. Wuxing owns Saito Stuios, Lotus Multimedia and Tiger Trideo adn Simsense. Transys Neuronet owns Hollywood Simsense Entertainment. Telestrian Industries owns Lotus Eater Entertainment. I think the Draco Foundation would have taken over Dunkelzahn Entertainment. Now for the ones I can't find any ties to. Dadson Vision Entertainmnets. Fox Simsense KSAF KZHN New Line Spectrum Holofix Entertainment Systems Trideovision Quatre Elements a Quebec rideo braodcasting company. Optical Media Systems. Native American Broadcasting Company, a privater company based in the Sioux, which als sponsers a net host NativeNet. A correction: DeMeKo: is not mob related, as far as I know right now, They are from my lack of German, Germany Media and Communications. Now I am off to nurse a headache from all that speed reading. :D |
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Jan 4 2004, 11:44 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
There's also Highstar from old 1st Ed adventures which has changed hands a couple of times IIRC and now belongs to MCT.
Others that haven't been mentionned so far: DeMeKo - indy German media giant (AA), also appears in several English books including the novel Ragnarok Sol Media - another major indy European one. ... and one I believe people missed: Ares Global Entertainment |
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Jan 4 2004, 05:29 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 3-October 03 Member No.: 5,677 |
Ares owns an entertainment company?...Well, I suppose anything IS possible but the idea still seems silly to me. :rotfl:
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Jan 4 2004, 07:21 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,065 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Fayetteville, NC Member No.: 3,916 |
Good multinational business entities don't put all their eggs in one basket, so to speak.
-Siege |
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Jan 4 2004, 07:22 PM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
Why do you think they're a Megacorp, Phaeton? They've got to earn money somehow.
Yes. I realize. They now earn money by existing. However, the more companies, the more they earn merely by existing. Plus how else could they put all those Shadowruns down as real spendings? :D |
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Jan 4 2004, 07:24 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 3-October 03 Member No.: 5,677 |
Yes, I know. But it still amuses me that an arms giant owns television stations and such. :rotfl:
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Jan 4 2004, 09:51 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 654 |
GE is a large arms manufacturer, and they currently own NBC, so it certainly has precedent.
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Jan 4 2004, 11:27 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Umm....thanks guys, especially Frag-o! Have an aspirin. :)
As to Ares: Ares Arms is only one of many subsidiaries that Ares owns, along with Ares Space and Knight Errant. I don't think it strange at all that Ares owns an entertainment company anymore than it's strange that Aztechnology has a stranglehold on consumer goods. I would find it odd if they didn't have at least a finger or two in that, or in fact any pie. Next question: Where did Reality Studios come from? Did they just pop up with the advent of Novatech, or were they mentioned prior to the Mega's inception? I'm quite surprised at the lack of info on Fuchi entertainment interests, other that Fuchi Simsense, as Fuchi was a driving force in the simsense market. Must have been mostly hardware related, as opposed to actual production work. |
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Jan 4 2004, 11:42 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,213 Joined: 10-March 02 From: Back from the abyss. Member No.: 2,316 |
I think Fuchi was on the Hardware and coding side of the game. Just dabbling in the actual production of entertainment.
I thought I put Ares Global Entertainment up there, because they own NBC. A lot of these Entertaunment companies don't have parent corps that I could find, they could be like video game makers of today. They make games for the huge corporations that are into all the other things. MS makes few games compare to all the games they publish for the XBox or PCs with Windows, same with Sony, they are into just aobut everything but I don't think they make a single game, they buy titles from small companies. From Fuchis point of view that may have looked at having a full time production or more on the books as not worth them effort, and just bought titles. Just like Ares and car parts, they had to major car companies supplying parts becasue they didn't want the hassle of setting up a shop for doing it themselves. Until of course they saw a benefit in owning GMC which could cripple Ford and make them an easier acquisition later. I haven't found anything about Reality Studios before Corporate Download, so they may have been a whole new sub, or may have been a conglomeration of small studios Villers owned before, like a lot of the holdings Fuchi cliamed that Villers actuallly personally owned. Also I think Villers stole a lot of stuff from his former business partners so he may have acquired some of the stuff from FuchiSimsense before they left. Villers kept the vast majority of the FUchi assets in North America, which could have been soem studios in Chicago/Toronto or CFS, and renamed them RealityStudios. ALl theory of course but again I am sitting nere bored. |
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Jan 5 2004, 12:01 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Hmmm, that kinda sucks! :(
I'm working on the background for a character. I want him to be an ex-bodyguard from a Mega (preferably Fuchi, obviously :)) who worked in the entertainment field. As opposed to just making the crap up (which I'm perfectly capable of doing), I'd prefer to tie it all in with canon info if I can. |
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Jan 5 2004, 12:27 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,213 Joined: 10-March 02 From: Back from the abyss. Member No.: 2,316 |
Like I said last night my brother has my Corporate download and Corporate Shadow Files, so I can't actually look up what Fuchi owned before the break up and compare it to what Novatech, Renraku, and Shiawase has now.
Also some of the stuff I hahve referres to Adventures, again my brother has them, and since I don't GM often I never read the adventures so as not to spoil his games. Sorry I can't find anything real concrete about what companies those four companies had/have. :( |
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Jan 5 2004, 08:56 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 96 Joined: 19-August 03 Member No.: 5,523 |
Moderately On-Topic - What's that Online game in 2063 that has to do with tha Atlantean Foundation? Which book speaks about it & what's the known deal? Thanks.
Wailer |
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Jan 5 2004, 08:57 AM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
Target: Matrix. p78
Dawn of Atlantis, by Brilliant Genesis |
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Jan 5 2004, 07:37 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Validating Posts: 1,618 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Montevideo, Uruguay. Member No.: 3,992 |
And I thought NN was still the biggest indy... :eek: Where can I find that Azzie reference?
Shadowbeat: Transnational Communications is owned by Saeder-Krupp. Rumors that the corp might change its logo to a dragon with a credstick are doubtlessly exagerated.
NBS. All the major US companies got one of their letters changed (ABC/ABS, CBS/CBC, NBC/NBS, got it? :)).
They got that one from Kokura, while they were operating in TT.
IIRC, the Seattle SB stated that DVE was a front for CalFree's intelligence service, which in turn was a front for the Japanese intelligence services. |
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Jan 6 2004, 01:54 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,757 Joined: 11-December 02 From: France Member No.: 3,723 |
Reality Studios is a small magical research firm in which Novatech acquired a "controlling interest" in 2060 or 2061. The info is in Corporate Download page 70b, talk by Wildsmasher. No clue if the name is hinting at research in entertainment illusions or anything else related to the topic.
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Jan 6 2004, 02:45 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Nath: Do you have anything further to contribute to this discussion on Entertainment Enterprises, based your well-known (at least to us) familiarity with all things Corporate?
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