Fortune
Jan 4 2004, 03:57 AM
Who owns Brilliant Genesis?
Secondly, what are some of the other Simsense/Entertainment companies are around, and who controls them?
I'm quite interested in what Fuchi owned before they kicked off, and where those entertainment assets went afterwards.
Large Mike
Jan 4 2004, 08:21 AM
SOTA: 2063 for recent stuff. Shadowbeat for pre-Fuchi stuff.
Frag-o Delux
Jan 4 2004, 08:40 AM
Affiliated Artists Inc, AA, sort of Walt Disney for 2057
Amalgamated Studios, AA The company
Angelic Entertainment, doesn't say but from descriptio could easily be AA, owned by S-K
Boromaker, bottom rung possibile Yak/MCT backing
Virtual World Disney, Treal Walt Disney for 2057
Brillant Genesis, is a Mob owned business.
I'll try to find more on simesense studios.
I seem to remember Truman Technologies went to Amalgamated and merged or something then later tried to split. I think they are tryign to get back into Chicago.
Frag-o Delux
Jan 4 2004, 08:53 AM
Update
Truman Technologies went to Affiliated, along with Brilliant Genesis. But now that Bug-city isn't that bad any mre they are lookign to go back.
Amalgamated was bought by the Pueblo, I guess that means the country.
Another company from Nashville, CAS, TriVol is looking to get into the business they are supposed to have a division head from Amalagamated looking to jump ship and come over with a whole division named LivingWorld.
Indies:
VisionQuest, NBS, and Mediaworks.
Fortune
Jan 4 2004, 09:10 AM
Thanks Frag-o Delux.
Is Brilliant Genesis still Mob-affiliated?
You found no hint at all of any Fuchi involvement anywhere in the entertainment industry?
Mike: If I had access to my books, I wouldn't have asked.
Frag-o Delux
Jan 4 2004, 09:19 AM
I am still looking for the actual passage in the books that state BG is mob owned. I had a excel sheet with the company on it and it had a name and said mafia owned, it gave page numbers I am currently sifting through to confirm.
I am also still working on Fuchi. So far the only thing I can think of, is somethings went to Nova Tech, some Renraku, and some Shiawase. I can't confirm any of that just that roughly a third of the company(Fuchi) went to each of these other companies.
Give me a little more time, I have all the books from first to third edition and I am trying to get as much as I can. Some of the stuff isn't even where you might think it is.
TimeKeeper
Jan 4 2004, 09:24 AM
Heads up, doesn't the Corperate Download have like a list of what each mega owns at the start of it's section? You might be able to find a a couple of things there.
Fortune
Jan 4 2004, 09:25 AM
QUOTE (Frag-o Delux) |
Some of the stuff isn't even where you might think it is. |
There's a shock!
I didn't realize you were still digging. I appreciate you taking the time to check this out for me. Thanks.
Frag-o Delux
Jan 4 2004, 10:09 AM
I just remembered those books, they are currently not on my shelf, appearently my GM has them and I have forgoten.
But so far, all metions of of Novatech, Renraku, Shiawasie and Fuchi alway talk about the break up. So far I haven't been able to nail down anything entertainment related.
NewsNet keeps comeing up, I believe they are an Azzie owned company, from the Azzie book.
I also keep finding Brillant Genesis, none of which says they are still mob owned, butthey haven't placed the owners name on the article either so I don't know if he/she is different.
So far for the megas I have only confirmed Cross Applied has Cross Entertainment and Multimedia. Yamatetsu Productions.
I have found a number of small entertainment companies, Reliable Imaging (7 employees) working on some kind of new multi POV playback unit.
ZOR Entertainment, a Seattle based company.
Global Technologies, may also be GTC a simesense production company.
I have found a few other record labels also: BMG, A/P who is in a legal battle with Ersatz!
I found several production companies with the current top simsense movies:
ArtHuas
Dreamcathcer Studios
GTC
DeMeKo, I din't remember where I heard this name before but I have a feeling they are tied to organized crime.
Orions Belt Studios
Quark Studios
New Star partially owned by Global Technologies.
Only the ABS production was label "indy" but I haven't found anything that tes these studios to anyone else yet.
I remember reading a lot about AZT owning huge amounts of entertainment companies but since I don't ahve my Corporate Download or Corporate Shadow Files, I have yet to find anything on the Megas.
EDIT:
Fortune no problem I am sitting here bored as hell anyway.
Frag-o Delux
Jan 4 2004, 11:15 AM
MCT: MCT Media, MCT Music Confederated Broadcasting Corporation 18% MCT, adn Media Sim.
MCT Media: Sakura Studios and Soonan Simsense.
NewsNet has been placed into the hands of Hisato-Turner, which I still believe is an AZT company I just remeber some shadow talk talking about how the CAS citizens would flip out if they ever found out.
NewsNet owns SatNet and NostalgiaVid.
Optical Dreams and Televisa are owned by AZT.
ABS is appearently owned by Tansnational Communictaions, I ma not sure who owns them though.
Truman Technologies owns Simsense Systems and ESP Systems.
Reality Studios: Novatech
National Trideo Network is owned by Adams-Westlake Mediaworks, I can't find if this Mediaworks is the same as MCT's Mediaworks.
Yamatetsu owns the Phillippines Broadcasting Network.
Ares owns NBC.
Fuchi Simsense went with Shiawase in the shake up.
Wuxing owns Saito Stuios, Lotus Multimedia and Tiger Trideo adn Simsense.
Transys Neuronet owns Hollywood Simsense Entertainment.
Telestrian Industries owns Lotus Eater Entertainment.
I think the Draco Foundation would have taken over Dunkelzahn Entertainment.
Now for the ones I can't find any ties to.
Dadson Vision Entertainmnets.
Fox Simsense
KSAF
KZHN
New Line
Spectrum Holofix Entertainment Systems
Trideovision Quatre Elements a Quebec rideo braodcasting company.
Optical Media Systems.
Native American Broadcasting Company, a privater company based in the Sioux, which als sponsers a net host NativeNet.
A correction:
DeMeKo: is not mob related, as far as I know right now, They are from my lack of German, Germany Media and Communications.
Now I am off to nurse a headache from all that speed reading.
Synner
Jan 4 2004, 11:44 AM
There's also Highstar from old 1st Ed adventures which has changed hands a couple of times IIRC and now belongs to MCT.
Others that haven't been mentionned so far:
DeMeKo - indy German media giant (AA), also appears in several English books including the novel Ragnarok
Sol Media - another major indy European one.
... and one I believe people missed:
Ares Global Entertainment
Phaeton
Jan 4 2004, 05:29 PM
Ares owns an entertainment company?...Well, I suppose anything IS possible but the idea still seems silly to me.
Siege
Jan 4 2004, 07:21 PM
Good multinational business entities don't put all their eggs in one basket, so to speak.
-Siege
Tanka
Jan 4 2004, 07:22 PM
Why do you think they're a Megacorp, Phaeton? They've got to earn money
somehow.
Yes. I realize. They now earn money by existing. However, the more companies, the more they earn merely by existing. Plus how else could they put all those Shadowruns down as real spendings?
Phaeton
Jan 4 2004, 07:24 PM
Yes, I know. But it still amuses me that an arms giant owns television stations and such.
locomotiveman
Jan 4 2004, 09:51 PM
GE is a large arms manufacturer, and they currently own NBC, so it certainly has precedent.
Fortune
Jan 4 2004, 11:27 PM
Umm....thanks guys, especially Frag-o! Have an aspirin.
As to Ares: Ares Arms is only one of many subsidiaries that Ares owns, along with Ares Space and Knight Errant. I don't think it strange at all that Ares owns an entertainment company anymore than it's strange that Aztechnology has a stranglehold on consumer goods. I would find it odd if they
didn't have at least a finger or two in that, or in fact any pie.
Next question: Where did
Reality Studios come from? Did they just pop up with the advent of Novatech, or were they mentioned prior to the Mega's inception?
I'm quite surprised at the lack of info on Fuchi entertainment interests, other that
Fuchi Simsense, as Fuchi was a driving force in the simsense market. Must have been mostly hardware related, as opposed to actual production work.
Frag-o Delux
Jan 4 2004, 11:42 PM
I think Fuchi was on the Hardware and coding side of the game. Just dabbling in the actual production of entertainment.
I thought I put Ares Global Entertainment up there, because they own NBC.
A lot of these Entertaunment companies don't have parent corps that I could find, they could be like video game makers of today. They make games for the huge corporations that are into all the other things. MS makes few games compare to all the games they publish for the XBox or PCs with Windows, same with Sony, they are into just aobut everything but I don't think they make a single game, they buy titles from small companies. From Fuchis point of view that may have looked at having a full time production or more on the books as not worth them effort, and just bought titles. Just like Ares and car parts, they had to major car companies supplying parts becasue they didn't want the hassle of setting up a shop for doing it themselves. Until of course they saw a benefit in owning GMC which could cripple Ford and make them an easier acquisition later.
I haven't found anything about Reality Studios before Corporate Download, so they may have been a whole new sub, or may have been a conglomeration of small studios Villers owned before, like a lot of the holdings Fuchi cliamed that Villers actuallly personally owned. Also I think Villers stole a lot of stuff from his former business partners so he may have acquired some of the stuff from FuchiSimsense before they left. Villers kept the vast majority of the FUchi assets in North America, which could have been soem studios in Chicago/Toronto or CFS, and renamed them RealityStudios. ALl theory of course but again I am sitting nere bored.
Fortune
Jan 5 2004, 12:01 AM
Hmmm, that kinda sucks!
I'm working on the background for a character. I want him to be an ex-bodyguard from a Mega (preferably Fuchi, obviously
) who worked in the entertainment field. As opposed to just making the crap up (which I'm perfectly capable of doing), I'd prefer to tie it all in with canon info if I can.
Frag-o Delux
Jan 5 2004, 12:27 AM
Like I said last night my brother has my Corporate download and Corporate Shadow Files, so I can't actually look up what Fuchi owned before the break up and compare it to what Novatech, Renraku, and Shiawase has now.
Also some of the stuff I hahve referres to Adventures, again my brother has them, and since I don't GM often I never read the adventures so as not to spoil his games.
Sorry I can't find anything real concrete about what companies those four companies had/have.
Wailer
Jan 5 2004, 08:56 AM
Moderately On-Topic - What's that Online game in 2063 that has to do with tha Atlantean Foundation? Which book speaks about it & what's the known deal? Thanks.
Wailer
toturi
Jan 5 2004, 08:57 AM
Target: Matrix. p78
Dawn of Atlantis, by Brilliant Genesis
JongWK
Jan 5 2004, 07:37 PM
QUOTE |
NewsNet has been placed into the hands of Hisato-Turner, which I still believe is an AZT company I just remeber some shadow talk talking about how the CAS citizens would flip out if they ever found out. NewsNet owns SatNet and NostalgiaVid. |
And I thought NN was still the biggest indy...
Where can I find that Azzie reference?
QUOTE |
ABS is appearently owned by Transnational Communications, I am not sure who owns them though. |
Shadowbeat: Transnational Communications is owned by Saeder-Krupp. Rumors that the corp might change its logo to a dragon with a credstick are doubtlessly exagerated.
NB
S. All the major US companies got one of their letters changed (ABC/ABS, CBS/CBC, NBC/NBS, got it?
).
QUOTE |
Telestrian Industries owns Lotus Eater Entertainment. |
They got that one from Kokura, while they were operating in TT.
QUOTE |
Now for the ones I can't find any ties to.
Dadson Vision Entertainmnets. |
IIRC, the Seattle SB stated that DVE was a front for CalFree's intelligence service, which in turn was a front for the Japanese intelligence services.
Nath
Jan 6 2004, 01:54 AM
Reality Studios is a small magical research firm in which Novatech acquired a "controlling interest" in 2060 or 2061. The info is in Corporate Download page 70b, talk by Wildsmasher. No clue if the name is hinting at research in entertainment illusions or anything else related to the topic.
Fortune
Jan 6 2004, 02:45 AM
Nath: Do you have anything further to contribute to this discussion on Entertainment Enterprises, based your well-known (at least to us) familiarity with all things Corporate?
Nath
Jan 6 2004, 01:36 PM
Well, a lot have been already said. Plus I don't have the California Free State SB, leaving me with a lot of holes concerning some corps.
As said above, among the big boys, the leading one is Mitsuhama, through Mitsuhama Media, Mitsuhama Music, Highstar, CBC, Soonan and Sakura Studios. As a side note back in Shadowbeat MCT wasn't the only shareholder of CBC, only owning 18% of the company. It probably went over 50% since CBC is now a subsidiary. Because of MCT core activities, this media branch is heavy in simsense.
That could be less the case for Ares Global Entertainment, although Ares is oddly a big players in simsense prog (see Cannon Companion or Shadowbeat). The only big name in their subsidiary is NBS, though they have an outfit in Australia called Australis Entertainment. Ares also owns Apple, so they might have get some power in music distribution. Funnily enough, Corp DL set AGE office in Paris, France, while the book was written IRL some times before Vivendi started its media acquisition, failed, and finally merged its assets with.. NBC. Maybe Ares also snatched some videogames companies in France and some other valuable assets, because there's probably a reason for the all-american corp to have a division headquarters in Europe.
Shiawase is supposed to have inherited Fuchi Simsense Studio in Europe, but looking at the Asset Rating at the end of Corporate Download, they only have a miserable 2 in Entertainment...go figure. In NAGNA, Fuchi was given as the main competitor of Truman Tech. Truman was only manufacturing and distributing the chip, the contents being made by Brilliant Genesis, Fox Simsense, and so on. Maybe it was the same for Fuchi, and Novatech is still producing simsense chips counted in the electronics sector instead of entertainment.
The media assets of the other AAA where mentionned above, Aztechnology owns Televisa and Optyical dreams, Cross have a Multimedia & Entertainment division, Renraku owns Adams-Westlake Mediaworks in turn owning Realizm Simulations, National Trideo and Paradigm Pictures, and Hypersense (a simsense studio involved in an adventure of Blood in the Boardroom for mroe details), Saeder-Krupp has Transnational Communictions, ABS and Angelic Entertainment (the later being first and foremost a cover for the dragon in California), for Wuxing Jam-Bo Games, Lotus Multimedia, Tiger Trideo & Simsense and Saito Studio, and Yamatetsu have a unit called Yamatetsu Productions. Back on the asset ratings table, the ranking gives MCT, Ares, Cross/Renraku/Wuxing, Novatech, Aztechnology, S-K/Yamateztsu and Shiawase good last. From DotSW Transys is about the same level than Aztechnology after acquiring Belle Mead Communications in North America.
However there are no indications on how big are Ares and MCT media division in comparison to the "specialists". As said above, there are Amalgamated Studios owned by the Pueblo Corporate Council and Affiliated Artists in the top position in movies and simsense. Below there are the studios like Brilliant Genesis. Also Megamedia from Seattle, which suffered a bit on expanded in medical simsense and stuff like that (that's in PoaD, the corp is only the central player in Queen Euphoria adventure IIRC). Though sombody mentionned Dunkelzahn Entertainment, I didn't see VisioQuest, the company running Lake Louise Park and developping its FX, and now controlled by Holly Brighton.
In the media field, Hisato-Turner Broadcasting is a big guy, a AA owning NewsNet and some other channels (Ancient Wisdom, which is tied to the Atlantean Foundation), plus a space station and the operation contract of Tanegashima launchpad in Japan. Dunno about the Aztechnology secret ownership, it's not in a book I own.
I'm probably forgetting myriads of other companies. Just for the record, the trid program in SSG included the "Lone Star Channel".
Frag-o Delux
Jan 6 2004, 02:05 PM
Appearently my GM has doing a bit more raiding on my SR shelf then I thought.
The lady doing the news article in the begining of the book, she was supposed to be secretly meeting with a rebel. I seem to think see was working for NewsNet. Later in shadow talk, someone says the Hisato-Turner is the parent company of NewsNet and is through a bunch of shell companies ultimatley owned by Aztechnologies. They then go on about she was actually being tricked by NewsNet to find the rebel leader then unknowingly set up the rebel leader. They also continued to say that Hisato-Turner is also a sort of spy service for the Azzies in the heart of CAS, because Turner is supposed to be the same Ted Turner company that is CNN, Headline News, the Braves, (I think) the Falcons and all those "classic" movies channels, who is based in Atlanta, Georgia, capital of the CAS.
I maybe wrong this is just memories on my part and my memory is rather fualty as of late, seeing that my Aztechnologies book has been borrowed I'll bow out to Nath on this one, seeing that I can't back up my story.
Nath
Jan 6 2004, 03:35 PM
As I said, It's just not in a book I own. And I'm far from having all the books (at least not the Aztlan SB), so you might well be completely right.
Frag-o Delux
Jan 6 2004, 04:51 PM
I'll call my GM when he gets home from work today and get him to drop off my books, I'll try to find the passage.
I am just curious as hell now.
Siege
Jan 6 2004, 05:27 PM
Actually, that description rings a bell -- although as I recall, the shadowtalk was mostly speculation and not bona fide fact.
I don't own the book, otherwise I would take a look -- my GM and his extensive library is half an hour away.
-Siege
Edited for typos
Frag-o Delux
Jan 6 2004, 05:47 PM
I seem to remember Pyramid Watcher said it and most in the shadows believe him, as the number one azzie watcher.Supposedly he is good at digging up facts about the Azzies.
But I just talked to my GM he said he'll drop off my books later tonight, but I have to worl tonight also so I won't be able to confirm my memories or confirm I have no clue waht I am talking about.
Siege
Jan 6 2004, 05:57 PM
Ok, pages 15 and 16 of Aztlan Sourcebook.
"NewsFAXday is owned by Xpress Communications Corp and XCC is owned entirely by Aztechnology." (paraphrased)
According to Media Watcher.
-Siege
JongWK
Jan 6 2004, 07:06 PM
QUOTE (Nath) |
Maybe Ares also snatched some videogames companies in France and some other valuable assets, because there's probably a reason for the all-american corp to have a division headquarters in Europe. |
Maybe it's because Ares own the rights for Jerry Lewis' films.
(or maybe they bought Infogrames?)
Fortune
Jan 7 2004, 01:16 AM
QUOTE (Nath) |
In NAGNA, Fuchi was given as the main competitor of Truman Tech. |
That's what I thought too, which formed the basis of my background idea.
Thanks again everyone.
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