 Critical Strike Penetrating Strike etc. and Shock Gloves, do they work together? |
  Nov 10 2009, 08:15 AM
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Prime Runner  Group: Members Posts: 3,507 Joined: 11-November 08 Member No.: 16,582  |
Do the various Unarmed Attack Enhancers like Critical Strike, Penetrating Strike etc. work with shock gloves?
I think they shouldn't but I can't find any rule forbidding this. How about Martial Arts? |
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Nov 10 2009, 12:05 PM
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jacked in Group: Admin Posts: 9,438 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 463 |
I would also say no. Shock Gloves are weapons, they just use the Unarmed Combat skill, but are not really unarmed attacks.
But I don't think the rules are crystal-clear on that matter. Bye Thanee |
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Nov 10 2009, 02:06 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
quote from http://www.shadowrun4.com/resources/faq.shtml
QUOTE If you punch someone with shock gloves, do you inflict standard punching damage (STR/2) in addition to the glove's 6S DV? If you have gloves on both hands, can you attack with both and do 12S DV? No, it's one or the other. You can choose to punch/kick/whatever and do regular unarmed damage, or you can choose to touch/punch and zap with the shock gloves, doing *only* the shock glove damage (not the unarmed damage too). Even with two gloves, the damage is still just 6S DV. The upcoming Arsenal rulebook may feature rules for two-weapon melee. as the shock gloves do not stack with normal unarmed combat damage, i suspect its fair to say it will not stack with magical damage either... |
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Nov 10 2009, 04:21 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Nov 10 2009, 08:06 AM)  quote from http://www.shadowrun4.com/resources/faq.shtml as the shock gloves do not stack with normal unarmed combat damage, i suspect its fair to say it will not stack with magical damage either... I agree with this. They're basically a stun baton that you wear on your hand, not a fist-enhancing object. As for Martial Arts helping with attacks - I guess it's up to which Martial Art is in question. A +DV to Unarmed would not, I think, help shock gloves, but I would allow a +Block or +Dice for Called Shots on unprotected area to work. Also, don't forget that the +2 Dicepool for Touch Attacks really helps out stun batons, and by extention, shock gloves. |
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Nov 10 2009, 08:32 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,174 Joined: 13-May 04 From: UCAS Member No.: 6,327 |
For balance issues I totally agree with the ruling. However, I do feel realistically that it would depend upon the design of the gloves.
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