Ghostwalker Options

[Boomer1985]

I heard that one of the books had stats for ghostwalker and i was wondering where that was i cant seem to find it.

Im running the denver missions w/ some slight alterations for my home group and seeing how they are going they may choose to fight the dragon if they have the chance. They are kinda crazy like that even though ive impressed on them you shouldn't mess with dragons in shadowrun.

The phrase "Never meddle in the affairs of dragons for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup" is never more appropriate than in shadowrun.

[Stahlseele]

Dragons of the 6th World maybe, not sure right now . .

[Draco18s]

The phrase "Never meddle in the affairs of dragons for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup" is never more appropriate than in shadowrun.

Have Ghostwalker just summon a giant bottle of ketchup and huge roasting sticks.
See what the players do.

[Boomer1985]

Have Ghostwalker just summon a giant bottle of ketchup and huge roasting sticks.
See what the players do.

lol i like that

[Patrick Goodman]

GW hasn't been statted out, to the best of my knowledge.

[Boomer1985]

oh i was afraid of that then ill just use a great western dragon with some of the stats even further increased, just to make it even more unfair. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)

[capt.pantsless]

oh i was afraid of that then ill just use a great western dragon with some of the stats even further increased, just to make it even more unfair. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)

Aannnnd don't forget that as a named, well-known character in the published fluff, GW would have a gigantic pile of edge. Just in case anyone actually manages to do some damage.

[Bearclaw]

GW hasn't been statted out, to the best of my knowledge.

Hestaby and Lofwyr have though. I'd give Ghost walker the average of the two of them in everything.

[BishopMcQ]

For most things, I'd follow Bearclaw's recommendations. I'd up the summoning and spirits that Ghostwalker has access to in comparison though. His lair is probably also aspected to him, so +12 magic for him and -12 for everyone else just as an extra "F You" to anyone stupid enough to attack him on his own home ground.

[Draco18s]

For most things, I'd follow Bearclaw's recommendations. I'd up the summoning and spirits that Ghostwalker has access to in comparison though. His lair is probably also aspected to him, so +12 magic for him and -12 for everyone else just as an extra "F You" to anyone stupid enough to attack him on his own home ground.

You seriously think that GW is going to have a Rating 12 Mana Well? That's some serious mojo, he's already rocking with 12 magic.

[CanRay]

You seriously think that GW is going to have a Rating 12 Mana Well? That's some serious mojo, he's already rocking with 12 magic.

Um, he's Ghostwalker. Lofwyr is about the only person that stands up to him, and even he's cautious!

GW gets whatever he damned well wants!

EDIT: Great Dragons also didn't live so long and get so powerful by playing fair.

[Bearclaw]

Um, he's Ghostwalker. Lofwyr is about the only person that stands up to him, and even he's cautious!

GW gets whatever he damned well wants!

EDIT: Great Dragons also didn't live so long and get so powerful by playing fair.

They're also manipulators and have intuition and logic in the 20's. I'm sure it would be VERY embarrassing to Ghost Walker if anyone even got a shot off against him. I mean really. He's 10,000 years old, and has been competeing with Lofwyr, Harlequin and the other immortals for that 10,000 years. About the time the party starts seriously discussing it, an orbital death cow should crash through the roof.

[snowRaven]

There are no stats for GW, but the thing about upping conjuring and spirits is spot on.

Speaking of dragons, I seem to recall that there were stats for Perianwyr somewhere beside Mercurial and A Killing Glare - something more recent - but I can't seem to find the copy I remember having. Might've been in a magazine or something?

[BishopMcQ]

You seriously think that GW is going to have a Rating 12 Mana Well? That's some serious mojo, he's already rocking with 12 magic.

Take a look at Harlequin (Street Legends: Supplemental). He's rocking a Magic of 30...Hestaby has a Magic of 36, Lofwyr has a 27. I think you are drastically underestimating the power level put out for the named Great Dragons.

[Draco18s]

Take a look at Harlequin (Street Legends: Supplemental). He's rocking a Magic of 30...Hestaby has a Magic of 36, Lofwyr has a 27. I think you are drastically underestimating the power level put out for the named Great Dragons.

Well, 12 to start with, for being a dragon.

You push that to 24 and higher, he doesn't really need his own domain to be that much better than the PCs.
But if you want to give him one, make it a reasonable 4 or so. That way the mages can still cast magic, it just won't be useful.
As opposed to throwing them into a region that is, for them, effectively The Moon.

[Patrick Goodman]

Take a look at Harlequin (Street Legends: Supplemental). He's rocking a Magic of 30...Hestaby has a Magic of 36, Lofwyr has a 27. I think you are drastically underestimating the power level put out for the named Great Dragons.

QFT.

Ghostwalker (all one word) probably has a Magic comparable to Harlequin, though probably not as high as Hestaby. He's also going to have ROCKING Conjuring skills, the Spirit Affinity Quality, and more bound spirits than you want to think about. Not to mention the ones that hang out even though they're not bound because they just like being there....

[Bearclaw]

Well, 12 to start with, for being a dragon.

You push that to 24 and higher, he doesn't really need his own domain to be that much better than the PCs.
But if you want to give him one, make it a reasonable 4 or so. That way the mages can still cast magic, it just won't be useful.
As opposed to throwing them into a region that is, for them, effectively The Moon.

If it were within your power, wouldn't you make sure that no one but you could use magic within your sanctum?

[Draco18s]

If it were within your power, wouldn't you make sure that no one but you could use magic within your sanctum?

If I were the highly intelligent, scheming, manipulative, and sadistic being that I imagine the greats to be (especially Ghostwalker and Lofwyr) I'd put the threshold juuuust below the "you may not cast magic." That "you have a fighting chance. No really. Go ahead. Cast something. It won't kill you....the first time...."

[Bull]

There are no stats for GW, but the thing about upping conjuring and spirits is spot on.

Speaking of dragons, I seem to recall that there were stats for Perianwyr somewhere beside Mercurial and A Killing Glare - something more recent - but I can't seem to find the copy I remember having. Might've been in a magazine or something?

Yeah, he got statted up in a magazine (which also had the short fiction piece that went with him) to promote Dragons of the 6th World. Since I wrote it, I have a copy of the magazine kickinga round here somewhere. If I find the time tomorrow I'll see if I can find it and scan the stats in. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Bull

[snowRaven]

Yeah, he got statted up in a magazine (which also had the short fiction piece that went with him) to promote Dragons of the 6th World. Since I wrote it, I have a copy of the magazine kickinga round here somewhere. If I find the time tomorrow I'll see if I can find it and scan the stats in. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Bull

That would be awesome! Thank you in advance.

[Stahlseele]

Yeah, he got statted up in a magazine (which also had the short fiction piece that went with him) to promote Dragons of the 6th World. Since I wrote it, I have a copy of the magazine kickinga round here somewhere. If I find the time tomorrow I'll see if I can find it and scan the stats in. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Bull

That's about as official as inofficial can get O.o

also: holy crap you people sure have loads of interesting stuff lying around o.O

[NiL_FisK_Urd]

If a statline for Ghostwalker becomes necessary, use the Western Dragon, modified as a Great Dragon (SR4, p.297). Assume that Ghostwalker has any unlisted relevant skills at rating 5. Further assume that he has Analyze Truth, Deflection, Armor, and Astral Armor spells all quickened at Force 24 with 24 hits.

[snowRaven]

Nice catch! I had forgotten about that part.

[Boomer1985]

Im thinking ill just have to imply even more that they shouldnt mess w/ ghostwalker when we start getting close to that point. =)

Because it looks like ill be rolling close to 70 dice no matter what i do

[Patrick Goodman]

You say that like it's a bad thing.