 Crunch books, Give me some recommendations |
 Jan 5 2013, 05:27 PM
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Shooting Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,930 Joined: 9-April 05 From: Scandinavian Union Member No.: 7,310  |
So Im getting kinda sick and tired of by limited amount of crunch books for SR4, and while Im aware SR5 is around the corner Im considering expanding my collection.
So give me your top 5 (or 3 if you so desire) books that gives the most/best crunch for the buck, and please motivate why. Currently Im sitting on SR4 core, Arsenal, Augmentation and Street Magic. English versions. |
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Jan 5 2013, 05:29 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,647 Joined: 22-April 12 From: somewhere far beyond sanity Member No.: 51,886 |
Runner's Companion, Unwired, Running Wild would complement your collection.
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Jan 5 2013, 05:31 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 881 Joined: 13-November 11 From: Vienna, Austria Member No.: 43,494 |
I'm with bannockburn, and add SR4A.
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Jan 5 2013, 05:33 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,647 Joined: 22-April 12 From: somewhere far beyond sanity Member No.: 51,886 |
In before CanRay: Safehouses (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Jan 5 2013, 05:44 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,930 Joined: 9-April 05 From: Scandinavian Union Member No.: 7,310 |
Hm, the local store doesn't seem to have Running wild, at all. What's in it?
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Jan 5 2013, 05:52 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,700 Joined: 1-July 10 Member No.: 18,778 |
All the goofy paracritters that you could ever want, also mundane animals and genetically engineered critters.
EDIT: wrong book. |
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Jan 5 2013, 08:28 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,537 Joined: 27-August 06 From: Albuquerque NM Member No.: 9,234 |
QUOTE (bannockburn @ Jan 5 2013, 10:29 AM)  Runner's Companion, Unwired, Running Wild would complement your collection. Runners companion is pretty full of fail. It's not as worthless as unwired, but it isn't really very helpful to offer a new set of totally broken characters types. |
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Jan 5 2013, 08:31 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,930 Joined: 9-April 05 From: Scandinavian Union Member No.: 7,310 |
Runner's provide a cubic ton of new qualities, increased lifestyle options etc. It's more then worth the asking fee.
and the "broken character options" is completely optional and provide a nice GM tool. |
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Jan 5 2013, 08:32 PM
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Former Member Group: Members Posts: 814 Joined: 15-July 12 Member No.: 53,042 |
QUOTE (kzt @ Jan 5 2013, 02:28 PM) Runners companion is pretty full of fail. It's not as worthless as unwired, but it isn't really very helpful to offer a new set of totally broken characters types. In your opinion. Just because you think it, doesn't make it a hard and 100% true fact. |
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Jan 5 2013, 08:38 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (kzt @ Jan 5 2013, 01:28 PM) Runners companion is pretty full of fail. It's not as worthless as unwired, but it isn't really very helpful to offer a new set of totally broken characters types. Interesting, since I am of the opinion that Unwired is awesome, and that Runners Companion is a hell of a resource for players (even if we do not use everything out of it). *shrug* |
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Jan 5 2013, 09:21 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
The above suggestions (Safehouses is a decent fluff book with some good Lifestyle crunch, I will admit, but it works off of Runner's Companion so you'll need that. Safehouses also includes Santa Claus!)...
And both Runner's Black Books. All the Gear Porn and crunch you could want! |
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Jan 5 2013, 09:58 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,930 Joined: 9-April 05 From: Scandinavian Union Member No.: 7,310 |
Im not sure my players need more gearporn... They tend to indulge in it. I did love the black book in 3ed although.
Santa Claus? Free spirit? |
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Jan 6 2013, 12:08 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,086 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 |
QUOTE (kzt @ Jan 5 2013, 09:28 PM) Runners companion is pretty full of fail. It's not as worthless as unwired, but it isn't really very helpful to offer a new set of totally broken characters types. I tend to think of it as a rough diamond. It sure has a share of stuff that does not work right out of the book (Free Spirits, AIs, In Debt...), but enough other things to make up for it. And Unwired is pretty much required when playing TMs. |
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Jan 6 2013, 12:23 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 228 Joined: 30-July 09 Member No.: 17,450 |
I'm gonna have to go with Runner's Companion, Unwired, the Runner's Black Books, and Safehouses.
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Jan 6 2013, 02:35 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (Lionhearted @ Jan 5 2013, 05:58 PM) Santa Claus? Free spirit? Nope, buy Safehouses and find out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Jan 6 2013, 04:18 AM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
The add-ons for more magical shenanigans Way of the Adept and Digital Grimoire , para-stuff collections Parazoology, Parabotany , stuff and snippet collection SOTA 2073 and the upcoming Way of the Samurai (presumably, more cyberware and augmentation options) book are also worth a mention.
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Jan 6 2013, 10:32 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,930 Joined: 9-April 05 From: Scandinavian Union Member No.: 7,310 |
I really don't like PDFs. Wouldn't be so bad if I had... Say a kindle. But the combination of eyestrain and not being able to flick between pages easily, really kills it for me.
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Jan 6 2013, 10:47 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,537 Joined: 27-August 06 From: Albuquerque NM Member No.: 9,234 |
QUOTE (Lionhearted @ Jan 6 2013, 03:32 PM) I really don't like PDFs. Wouldn't be so bad if I had... Say a kindle. But the combination of eyestrain and not being able to flick between pages easily, really kills it for me. HP makes a wide range of products that allow you to burn images to paper. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Jan 6 2013, 11:02 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,930 Joined: 9-April 05 From: Scandinavian Union Member No.: 7,310 |
Do you know what ink cartridges and printing paper cost?
Even a 60p book pdf is going to set you back more then you paid for the actual book. |
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Jan 6 2013, 11:19 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (Lionhearted @ Jan 6 2013, 06:32 PM) I really don't like PDFs. Wouldn't be so bad if I had... Say a kindle. But the combination of eyestrain and not being able to flick between pages easily, really kills it for me. That's why I print them out and put them into page protectors and binders.But I have a laser printer. And am more than slightly insane. |
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Jan 6 2013, 11:36 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
You can also have most copy shops print and bind files. Doesn't cost more than a printed book would cost you.
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Jan 7 2013, 12:17 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 228 Joined: 30-July 09 Member No.: 17,450 |
QUOTE (hermit @ Jan 6 2013, 04:36 PM) You can also have most copy shops print and bind files. Doesn't cost more than a printed book would cost you. Less, if you're lucky enough to be a student or know one who can have stuff bound at college for you. I wouldn't recommend Digital Grimoire, it's literally the only book I've never found a use for. Way of the Adept is awesome, but can lead to shenanigans if you don't double check math. To be honest though, once you've got the core books, I think that Runner's Toolkit is the best investment you can make as far as rounding everything out. It's a wonderful resource for everything, including a book that contains ALL of the tables from the core books for easy reference. |
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Jan 7 2013, 07:10 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,018 Joined: 3-July 10 Member No.: 18,786 |
QUOTE (Neko Asakami @ Jan 7 2013, 01:17 AM) I wouldn't recommend Digital Grimoire, it's literally the only book I've never found a use for. It has the Heightened Concentration adept power, which is quite good. But that's about it, as far as usefulness goes. |
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Jan 11 2013, 05:02 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,930 Joined: 9-April 05 From: Scandinavian Union Member No.: 7,310 |
Picked up 4a, unwired and running wild today, getting RC once it's back in stock... Didn't realise they changed the cover on books between prints, UW is very green.
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Jan 11 2013, 05:55 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
They mostly use the German covers for the de-erratized 3rd print run of the books.
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