Shadowrun Product Data, A List of Products from 1st Edition to Present |
Shadowrun Product Data, A List of Products from 1st Edition to Present |
May 21 2014, 09:35 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 9-June 10 From: San Diego Member No.: 18,682 |
Hey Everyone,
I'm a bit of a data hound, and a while back when I started trying to find a comprehensive list of Shadowrun products I was a bit peeved to discover that there didn't seem to be any single list that contained what I needed. Also, many of the available lists contradicted one another or contained rather obvious errors. So I built my own. The data sources used for this initially were:
A couple of explanatory notes:
Like I said, if anyone spots anything in need of correction or addition, I'll periodically check back and update the file. I'm also not familiar with Google Docs, so if any of this is shared goofy, just shoot me a heads up. I think that's it. You're welcome to download, modify, use, etc. Go nuts. Enjoy. |
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May 21 2014, 10:25 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 576 Joined: 6-May 10 From: Front Range Free Zone Member No.: 18,558 |
Oh that's a great list. Much easier to navigate than the pdf with all the SR books.
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May 21 2014, 11:08 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 21-October 04 Member No.: 6,777 |
You sir are a gentleman and a scholar.
I've been wanting a list of novels myself. Glad to piggyback off your list. |
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May 22 2014, 01:26 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 9-June 10 From: San Diego Member No.: 18,682 |
You sir are a gentleman and a scholar. I've been wanting a list of novels myself. Glad to piggyback off your list. Thank you. Since the novels seem of particular interest to you, I went ahead and added a column called "Novel Order." It's essentially a more specific version of Published, but it will let you put the series within the novels into proper order. I actually own every single on of the novels. Pulling them off the shelf and skimming the first chapter or two for the in-universe date is something I've been putting off. Someday though. |
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May 22 2014, 05:31 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 21-October 04 Member No.: 6,777 |
Hah, much appreciated.
Unfortunately, I already scalped your list into my own file and organized it by the books I've got vs the books I've been meaning to pick up. |
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May 22 2014, 10:47 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,183 Joined: 5-December 07 From: Lower UCAS, along the border Member No.: 14,507 |
This is super useful! It would be excellent to help if you were looking to do different "eras" of Shadowrun, and know which book / supplement / materials you could use for each.
Thank you! |
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May 22 2014, 01:09 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,840 Joined: 24-July 02 From: Lubbock, TX Member No.: 3,024 |
Are you counting Rigger 3 Revised, as a re-print of Rigger 3?
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May 22 2014, 04:05 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 9-June 10 From: San Diego Member No.: 18,682 |
This is super useful! It would be excellent to help if you were looking to do different "eras" of Shadowrun, and know which book / supplement / materials you could use for each. "Eras" in Shadowrun, (at least from a chronological perspective), are pretty well defined:
There are a few exceptions to that, but for the most part the books fit into those segments. Did you have a different definition of "eras" in mind? Are you counting Rigger 3 Revised, as a re-print of Rigger 3? That's a good question. I tried to leave off re-printings (even if they contained errata), but include products that had substantial content revision (for example, the two different versions of This Old Drone). I own the original Rigger 3, but I don't think I've ever laid eyes on a copy of Rigger 3 Revised. Is it basically a re-print with errata, or is it truly a differentiated product? |
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May 22 2014, 04:14 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,183 Joined: 5-December 07 From: Lower UCAS, along the border Member No.: 14,507 |
"Eras" in Shadowrun, (at least from a chronological perspective), are pretty well defined:
There are a few exceptions to that, but for the most part the books fit into those segments. Did you have a different definition of "eras" in mind? No, actually, that's exactly what I was thinking! I'm an old enough hand to know them myself, but it's useful to point a newbie SR junkie towards. I hope you don't mind, but I posted a link to this on my tumblr just for that purpose. |
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May 22 2014, 05:25 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,840 Joined: 24-July 02 From: Lubbock, TX Member No.: 3,024 |
That's a good question. I tried to leave off re-printings (even if they contained errata), but include products that had substantial content revision (for example, the two different versions of This Old Drone). I own the original Rigger 3, but I don't think I've ever laid eyes on a copy of Rigger 3 Revised. Is it basically a re-print with errata, or is it truly a differentiated product? It was pretty substantial as I recall. I do believe the ISBN numbers were the same though. In any case, nice work on the list (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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May 22 2014, 05:51 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 9-June 10 From: San Diego Member No.: 18,682 |
It was pretty substantial as I recall. I do believe the ISBN numbers were the same though. Ok, this is what I found: Like you said, both books have the same ISBN. The original Rigger 3 was published by FASA; the Revised version was reprinted by FanPro. The errata for the FASA version can be found here: http://old.shadowrun4.com/resources/errata_r3.shtml Based on what I've read, the FanPro version contains additional errata but no new material. The conversion guide for the Revised version (which included the material in the link above), can be found here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/4089972/Rigger-3...onversion-Guide tl;dr: I'm going to consider it a reprint and leave it as a single product. |
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May 22 2014, 06:51 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,102 Joined: 23-August 09 From: Vancouver, Canada Member No.: 17,538 |
Cool. I'm going to add this to my G+, if you are cool with that.
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May 22 2014, 07:35 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 9-June 10 From: San Diego Member No.: 18,682 |
Cool. I'm going to add this to my G+, if you are cool with that. Go right ahead. You're also welcome to download, modify, and distribute it as you see fit. I have no plans to get rich or famous by doing this. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) And like I said before, if anyone has corrections or additions to the data, please send them along. I'll probably fill in all the blank cells for in-universe dates in the next couple days with red text, with the caveat that red text should be understood as + / - a year. |
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May 25 2014, 01:10 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 80 Joined: 4-December 02 From: Québec, Bounty Hunter Region Member No.: 3,677 |
QUOTE 1st Edition: 2050 - 2053 2nd Edition: 2053 - 2060 3rd Edition: 2060 - 2065 4th Edition: 2070 - 2075 5th Edition: 2075 - "Present" Hmmm what happen between 2065-2070 ? |
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May 25 2014, 05:09 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 576 Joined: 6-May 10 From: Front Range Free Zone Member No.: 18,558 |
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May 25 2014, 06:18 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 9-June 10 From: San Diego Member No.: 18,682 |
Long story short, there were a lot of ideas thrown around for what direction 4th edition would go...from continuing to wave the 3rd edition banner to jumping into the future rather drastically. Ultimately the writers decided to take a middle-of-the-road approach where they advanced the timeline five years, implemented some rather significant mechanical changes (from variable TN to fixed TN), and made some rather significant in-universe changes (including the debut of the wireless matrix).
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Jun 6 2014, 08:18 PM
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Tilting at Windmills Group: Members Posts: 1,636 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Amarillo, TX, CAS Member No.: 388 |
Sail Away, Sweet Sister is set between November 2073 and January 2074. You're showing it as 2075. Just FYI. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Jun 6 2014, 09:30 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 9-June 10 From: San Diego Member No.: 18,682 |
Sail Away, Sweet Sister is set between November 2073 and January 2074. You're showing it as 2075. Just FYI. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Fixed. Date should now be correct and no longer marked as inferred. Thanks Patrick; I appreciate the input. |
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Jun 7 2014, 11:50 AM
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Old Man Jones Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,415 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
There was an "official" living campaign known as Virtual Seattle, that ran for a few years prior to Missions. I think it spanned from 1st to 3rd edition set in the 2050s to 2060s, but my memories are fuzzy, and there seems to be precious few references about it on the interwebs. Not sure how canon the events from that campaign are either.
Most comprehensive listing of the module publications from the VS campaign that I have found: http://rpggeek.com/rpgseries/19056/virtual-seattle Also doesn't help that internet use wasn't as widespread at the time. A lot of the modules were distrbuted by physical mail, with event coordinators photocopying additional copies as needed, so many don't exist in digital format. -k |
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Jun 7 2014, 07:05 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 9-June 10 From: San Diego Member No.: 18,682 |
Huh. I wasn't aware of that, thanks.
It looks like some of the Virtual Seattle modules were later recycled in SRM; at least the titles and authors of a few are identical. I'll dig into that when I get a chance and see what can be added to the list. Given that there's probably little to no hope of being able to collect a lot of them at this point, I'll give them their own Genre category so that they can be easily filtered. Thanks again. |
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Jun 7 2014, 11:14 PM
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Keeper of the Timeline Maps Group: Members Posts: 410 Joined: 21-December 10 Member No.: 19,243 |
I recently started a database for the Shadowhelix wiki: http://shadowhelix.pegasus.de/Shadowhelix:Datenbank The project page is in German, but the descriptors and content (where applicable) is in English and I will also use it for the Shadowrun Wikia wiki. Though I've already begun to fill the database I'm still in the concept phase, this is just a starting point. Your list will be useful for adding or checking data.
Some suggestions: You might want to include catalog numbers in the various online resources for some of these publications. I have this information in the "sources_catalog" table with DriveThru, Amazon and RPGGeek IDs so far. If you are interested I could create a table that has labels instead of the numeric ID of the source. The stock number might also be an addition to consider, but those I have not yet in the database. The method I envision to represent what you call "genre" requires some effort. Ideally I think one would count the number of pages of a publication for location fluff, rules, equipment and so on and give a percentage for each type. So something like 50% adventure, 50% location for the NAN books to give an example. Finally, this is the Shadowhelix category for English sources: http://shadowhelix.pegasus.de/Kategorie:Qu..._%28Englisch%29 if you want to check with another list. This includes short stories and a few apocryphal sources though. |
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Jun 9 2014, 07:50 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 9-June 10 From: San Diego Member No.: 18,682 |
I actually made a deliberate choice not to include SKU or ISBN data in the list. If folks want to include that, they're welcome to springboard off of my version of the list and create their own. That's absolutely fine, and no one needs my approval or permission to just grab the whole thing and sprint off into pet project territory.
The GENRE tag is designed to meet my own needs for some projects I'm working on. I'm sure other folks have different categorization schemes that they prefer. Again, that's fine. People should feel free to grab a copy and start making changes to something they like better. At this point, the priorities are 1) adding new products as they appear (such as Bullets & Bandages), 2) correcting incorrect or incomplete data (as happened when Patrick was kind enough to point out that Sail Away Sweet Sister was more retro than I realized), and 3) include products that were missed (such as KarmaInferno's little bombshell re: Virtual Seattle; that's still pending BTW). Anything much beyond that simply isn't in the cards right now, given other demands on my time. However, you are welcome to spin off your own version (and it sounds like you already are doing just that). |
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Jun 10 2014, 11:51 PM
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Tilting at Windmills Group: Members Posts: 1,636 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Amarillo, TX, CAS Member No.: 388 |
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Jun 11 2014, 06:43 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 9-June 10 From: San Diego Member No.: 18,682 |
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Jul 4 2014, 07:07 PM
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Runner Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,801 Joined: 2-September 09 From: Moscow, Russia Member No.: 17,589 |
If you you have nothing against the idea, I'd like to link your work from my SR page, as well as to preserve local copies in case your own original work goes offline.
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