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post Sep 9 2003, 10:13 PM
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Called: ROBOCOP!

i didn't notice but Robocop is JUST like SR, really!


Police=Lone star
The gigacorp=A gigacorp (Probably Ares)
Those (as said in both SR and Robo) "SOTA Grade A Bang-Bang" guns=panthers
Robocop :cyber: himself can be made (EASILY) using Man and Machine and the Main Book, using Cannon Companion will help as well (Custom Überpistol for weapon, Heavy Hardened Military Armor for Armor)
Corruption in the corp=Corruption in the corp
If some experiment fails, what to do? You give some street drek(Shadowrunners) military stuff(panther) and let them kill it!
The whole thing has that gritty "Shadowrun" feel....

how was i so blind? i mean, every single person south of the north pole must have noticed!

Are there any other heavy (or extreme) SR references in movies?
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darloth
post Sep 10 2003, 12:35 AM
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GitS!

(To expand my acronym, incase anyone thinks i'm insulting them: )

Ghost in the Shell - Good anime film, that could have been -completely- set in the shadowrun universe.

Only things it lacks are magic and metahumans, which aren't quite as common in japan anyway.

I mean, it has it down to smartlinked snipers, 4 legged drone tank thingies, and of course, Thermoptic camo.

Not to mention the gridguide similarities (read Rigger 3) for the holomap, etc.
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post Sep 10 2003, 12:38 AM
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Wait, what about Johnny Nemonic.... :-)
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post Sep 10 2003, 12:40 AM
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Don't forget that Robocop was so heavily cybered up that he could only eat baby food because he lacked a digestive system. Can you imagine your street sam or a cyberzombie doing that? :D

"What the fuck are you looking at?"

"Um...nothing."

"That's right. Now get the hell out of here before I smash these strained peas in your face!"

Oh, and a stupid fact. If you own the original BBB, look at the picture of the Ares Predator. Look familiar?
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post Sep 10 2003, 12:54 AM
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QUOTE (Solidcobra @ Sep 9 2003, 10:13 PM)
Are there any other heavy (or extreme) SR references in movies?

Or perhaps more likely, movie references in SR?

:D
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post Sep 10 2003, 12:57 AM
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Plus, Paul Verhoven always does a good job at upping the campiness of futuristic advertising. 6000 SUX! The old school SR books had some pretty funny ads in 'em.
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post Sep 10 2003, 02:41 AM
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QUOTE
Ghost in the Shell - Good anime film, that could have been -completely- set in the shadowrun universe.

Only things it lacks are magic and metahumans, which aren't quite as common in japan anyway.


Wasn't it set in Hong Kong? Yeah, you're right though, Ghost in the Shell is one of the better cyber-punkish movies out there. Of course, Cowboy Bebop has a few parallels to Shadowrun as well.

Come to think of it, Solidcobra, if you want to find a piece of media that syncs with Shadowrun almost 100%, you might want to read Neuromancer, by William Gibson.
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post Sep 10 2003, 02:47 AM
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There's a pretty cool movie from 92 (I believe) called Split Second. Starring Rutger Hauer, who's already got that "street samurai on the edge" look about him, looking identical to Jake Armitage from the old SNES Shadowrun game. The movie is set in a London, where a faulty bio-dome covering that was supposed to protect the city from the enviroment instead results in a lot of rain. The characters refer to London as The Smoke, Reutger Hauer wields a pistol identical to a Browning Max Power and, later on, a Vindicator mini-gun. If that's not enough, they use "drek" and "frag" extensively. There's a few references to a world wide Matrix. Oh, and Rutger is hunting down a heart-eating, sewer dwelling beast that looks suspiciously like a fleshform bug spirit.

Oh yeah, and there's devil rats. Lots of devil rats.

All of this is, of course, layered on top of the already established "Shadowrun-look", first created by Blade Runner. Day-glo and neon refracting off the rain puddles can't hide the grit.
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post Sep 10 2003, 02:53 AM
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Oh, there's also Strange Days. Written by James Cameron, it's basically about a BTL dealer who uncovers a murder conspiracy. Once again we have the archtypical Shadowrun style club, and the way they do simsense and BTL addiction is pretty much spot on. Even though it's set in 1999, right at the turn of the millenium, the general style and setting of everything makes it easy to imagine it being pre-Awakening SR.

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post Sep 10 2003, 05:54 AM
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There's a pretty cool movie from 92 (I believe) called Split Second.

I hate that movie simply because it gave us the "Big F-ing guns" line.
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post Sep 10 2003, 05:58 AM
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The gigacorp=A gigacorp (Probably Ares)

I don't know what made Ares a bigger rip-off of OCP. That it was HQ'd in Detroit (actually Dallas (IIRC, pt. 1) and Houston (pt. 2)), or that "We ARE the military."
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post Sep 10 2003, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE (Crimsondude 2.0)
I hate that movie simply because it gave us the "Big F-ing guns" line.

Man, that's one of the best reasons to love it!

And, IIRC, it's not a minigun. It's a multi-barrelled combat shotgun, kinda like the "Iron-Rain" that was floating around on some fan pages a while back. Ouch.

Also, the female star is exceedingly attractive.

Okay - Shadowrun movies abound. Check lady Jestyr's site (I dont' have the address handy, but you can get there through the main Dumpshock page). It's got a great list. And don't forget to watch Equilibrium which is great for gunbunny physad types. Go see...

By the way, anyone know why you can no longer submit movies to the list? Is she still running it?
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post Sep 10 2003, 01:22 PM
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Don't forget the bar scene w/ "knights in white satin" playing in the background... ;)
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post Sep 10 2003, 01:22 PM
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oh! time to check on my local book store/video store......

thanks!
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post Sep 10 2003, 01:41 PM
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"Strange Days" was a case of BTL dealer who caught a political murder on a BTL.

"Robocop" is the example we give for a "smart link" to a new player.
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post Sep 10 2003, 04:35 PM
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The Crow = physad vs. Scatterbrains in the Barrens on the annual Night of Rage 'celebration'.
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post Sep 10 2003, 07:43 PM
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robocop is a perfect example of a cyberzombie, and the gun he uses looks so mutch like a burst fire ares predator (why burst fire? listen)...
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post Sep 10 2003, 08:37 PM
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Going back to the Cowboy Bebop reference....

I plan on showing the entire scene from the movie where Spike infiltrates the pharmacutical plant to my players. I will narrate the similarities between this intrusion and much of the work they do. When Spike gets a gun pulled on him, I will say, "This is the part where your run gets hosed." When Spike fights his way out past 100 guards in mil-spec, I will say, "Yes, this is the absolutely coolest way to ride out of an installation. You are not Spike. You will die."

Though if any of the characters is spotting a 'fro, I might be a little lenient...;)
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post Sep 11 2003, 12:32 AM
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I'd ckeck out Akira too. Though it has some difference with SR, it does have tons of similarities, and some pretty nice motorcicles that I'd bet would make the dreams of any Ancient ganger!

And another anime you'd might want to check is Jin-Roh. It could be descibed as the story of a Red Samurai, and it really is a great story.

Blade Runner is a must, of course. Especially for the ambient of the world, and Vangelis' soundtrack.

Mystery Men, which stinks as a movie, has a completely cyberpunk city as a setting, pretty similar to the one in Blade Runner. And Double Dragon, which stinks even more, has an even more cyberpunkish look to it, plus some magic and similar things.

Minority Report is another must. Though it's a little more in the future, tons of things can be perfectly recognizable.

Finally, Artificial Intelligence is great for a shadorwun world.

There go my 0.2 euros. I'd bet there's more if I think a while more, but those are the ones I remember right now. ;)

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I hate that movie simply because it gave us the "Big F-ing guns" line.

Man, that's one of the best reasons to love it!

Oh, see I like movies that are, well, GOOD. But that's fine, too.
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post Sep 11 2003, 01:33 AM
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City of Lost Souls. What happens when a shadowrun in Brazil against the Triads and the Yakuza goes horribly wrong. Well, maybe not horribly, maybe just a little bit wrong. With a ping-pong table.

And of course, there's always Brother. Beat Kitano, baby.
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post Sep 11 2003, 04:40 AM
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Brother.... yes, you cannot beat Brother for a good tale on Yakuza style in Shadowrun.
Hell, almost any Beat Takeshi movie, despite being set in current times, has the SR feel.
On a related note, any opinions on actors who have the "Shadowrun look"? You know, the people you model characters on, or can at least see tricked out in cyber and/or foci?
My vote goes to Rutger Hauer. His tall, rangy but athletic way of moving combined with his general demeanor just scream wired samurai to me.
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post Sep 11 2003, 10:50 AM
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Jude Law would make an excelent Face character... and I reckon Heath Ledger might make a good runner. A younger Ewan MacGreggor would have been a cool Samuel Verner.

Also, the woman (Reya) from Solaris IS an Elf!
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post Sep 11 2003, 11:01 AM
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Solaris (the one with Clooney) was such a terrible movie. The orriginal movie (in Russian) is much better, but to really get a feel for it you should read the book (Stanislaw). Its interesting to note that the russian version of the book is worse than the english version because it was censored do to its ending (relating to god during communism was an apparent no-no).
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post Sep 11 2003, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE (hobgoblin)
robocop is a perfect example of a cyberzombie, and the gun he uses looks so mutch like a burst fire ares predator (why burst fire? listen)...

You sure it ain't a thunderbolt? it fires so fast that the muzzle hasn't had the time to climb after all...... just a thought..... (haven't found JACK of the stuff posted here, will soon turn to kazaa in despair)
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