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post Oct 4 2011, 12:19 PM
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Did anyone else feel a bad vibe, when they read Serrin Shamander's description in Street Legends? Who in thair right mind will call a a secret bloodmage's elite watchers (dressed in black no less) SS watchers?! Maybe I am oversensetized to this issue, like the ppl complaining about the fleshfinder crap in WAR (don't mention it further, this is not another WAR thread), then again, maybe I am not..
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post Oct 5 2011, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE (Bigity @ Oct 4 2011, 06:03 PM) *
Waffen SS units were often non-Germans, some were even conscripts as the war progressed

So? In case you didn't get that memo, the NS world view was about races, not what you passport said about nationality. Therefore German Jews = bad, Croatian Ustaša = Good.

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The performance sucked at first, but markedly improved.

Right, after many of the officers with some semblance of throughout training had gotten themselves killed and had to be replaced by those who made up their lack of tactical thinking with even more bravado, performance obviously improved...
Or do you mean behind the front, where they obviously got more effective?

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You'd be hard pressed to find any German officers at least not verbally touting the Nazi party line during the war (the bulk of it anyway).

There is a difference between toeing the party line and being a member of the ideological elite cadre. The (W) SS was at all times planned and implemented as the latter and never just a military unit.

PS: You might also want to think about the supposed difference between the Division Totenkopf of the Waffen-SS and the Waffen-SS again...
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- MK Ultra   Elite Watchers ...   Oct 4 2011, 12:19 PM
- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (MK Ultra @ Oct 4 2011, 09:19 AM) D...   Oct 4 2011, 01:00 PM
- - Bigity   Word association is silly sometimes. Not even all...   Oct 4 2011, 01:07 PM
|- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (Bigity @ Oct 4 2011, 10:07 AM) I d...   Oct 4 2011, 01:11 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (Bigity @ Oct 4 2011, 02:07 PM) Som...   Oct 4 2011, 02:21 PM
|- - Critias   I think sometimes folks just find unfortunate coin...   Oct 4 2011, 03:44 PM
||- - Sengir   QUOTE (Critias @ Oct 4 2011, 03:44 PM) No...   Oct 4 2011, 05:06 PM
|- - Bigity   QUOTE (Sengir @ Oct 4 2011, 08:21 AM) One...   Oct 4 2011, 06:03 PM
- - Paul   The nice thing about games like RPG's is you d...   Oct 4 2011, 01:36 PM
|- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (Paul @ Oct 4 2011, 10:36 AM) The n...   Oct 4 2011, 01:38 PM
- - suoq   If we weren't offended by the humanis members ...   Oct 4 2011, 02:05 PM
- - LurkerOutThere   QUOTE (MK Ultra @ Oct 4 2011, 07:19 AM) D...   Oct 4 2011, 02:43 PM
- - MK Ultra   I am not really offended, it´s more that it strike...   Oct 4 2011, 02:59 PM
|- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (MK Ultra @ Oct 4 2011, 11:59 AM) I...   Oct 4 2011, 03:02 PM
||- - MK Ultra   QUOTE (HunterHerne @ Oct 4 2011, 04:02 PM...   Oct 4 2011, 03:22 PM
||- - CanRay   QUOTE (MK Ultra @ Oct 4 2011, 10:22 AM) G...   Oct 4 2011, 03:24 PM
|- - LurkerOutThere   QUOTE (MK Ultra @ Oct 4 2011, 09:59 AM) I...   Oct 5 2011, 12:18 AM
|- - MK Ultra   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Oct 5 2011, 01:18...   Oct 5 2011, 02:13 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (MK Ultra @ Oct 5 2011, 09:13 AM) D...   Oct 5 2011, 02:29 PM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (suoq @ Oct 5 2011, 09:29 AM) Now I...   Oct 5 2011, 02:48 PM
- - Paul   Well I mean we are discussing a roleplaying game n...   Oct 4 2011, 03:04 PM
- - Elfenlied   Well, you just gotta love those Boss suits.   Oct 4 2011, 03:04 PM
- - CanRay   The United States has an SS IRL. It's called ...   Oct 4 2011, 03:21 PM
|- - MK Ultra   QUOTE (CanRay @ Oct 4 2011, 04:21 PM) The...   Oct 4 2011, 03:26 PM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (CanRay @ Oct 4 2011, 08:21 AM) EDI...   Oct 4 2011, 09:59 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Udoshi @ Oct 4 2011, 03:59 PM) Man...   Oct 4 2011, 11:14 PM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Udoshi @ Oct 4 2011, 04:59 PM) Man...   Oct 5 2011, 12:53 AM
- - Paul   Depends on what crowd you're in. The professio...   Oct 4 2011, 03:28 PM
- - Critias   As much as I could keep going, I think we're g...   Oct 4 2011, 07:21 PM
- - CanRay   Still, might want to think of a different name for...   Oct 4 2011, 07:46 PM
|- - MK Ultra   QUOTE (CanRay @ Oct 4 2011, 08:46 PM) Sti...   Oct 4 2011, 08:00 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (MK Ultra @ Oct 4 2011, 02:00 PM) a...   Oct 4 2011, 11:12 PM
- - CanRay   Can it be rocketsurgery?   Oct 4 2011, 08:04 PM
- - MK Ultra   Well, if I can be a brainscientist, you sure can b...   Oct 4 2011, 09:09 PM
|- - ggodo   QUOTE (MK Ultra @ Oct 4 2011, 01:09 PM) W...   Oct 4 2011, 10:05 PM
|- - Mardrax   QUOTE (ggodo @ Oct 5 2011, 12:05 AM) I do...   Oct 4 2011, 10:52 PM
- - MK Ultra   Well, ok, what ever. certainly didn´t mean to be o...   Oct 5 2011, 03:15 PM
- - Paul   So I cracked open Street Legends, after I finished...   Oct 5 2011, 04:01 PM
- - Sengir   QUOTE (Bigity @ Oct 4 2011, 06:03 PM) Waf...   Oct 5 2011, 04:20 PM
- - Warlordtheft   IIRC: The German SS units were considered elite un...   Oct 5 2011, 05:57 PM
- - Tiralee   Sheesh - we use it at work to donate a Stainless S...   Oct 6 2011, 03:47 AM
- - Ryu   QUOTE (MK Ultra @ Oct 4 2011, 02:19 PM) D...   Oct 6 2011, 11:22 AM
- - Bigity   You know I totally missed that.   Oct 6 2011, 01:01 PM
- - ggodo   Me too, I didn't get blood magic from his thin...   Oct 7 2011, 01:59 AM
- - Bigity   When did he get insane? Last I recall he was off ...   Oct 7 2011, 02:05 AM
- - ggodo   Well, The blurb in Street Legends implied some Mul...   Oct 7 2011, 02:19 AM
|- - Ryu   QUOTE (ggodo @ Oct 7 2011, 04:19 AM) Well...   Oct 7 2011, 07:36 AM
- - CanRay   QUOTE (Bigity @ Oct 6 2011, 09:05 PM) Whe...   Oct 7 2011, 02:39 AM


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