 Security Guards.... just a job or a Profession? |
 May 15 2005, 05:04 PM
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Looked a while at the myth of a modern shadowrunner post... and as far as a security guards job i just dont get it.
In SR, lets face it, its a dangerous place. There are some seriously frightning people out there, not just in terms of skills and contacts, but also in terms of killing power. Really dont understand the moral point of view that someones just a security guard supporting his family by picking up a pay check.... its utter rubbish. If u want a safe job dont take one where you dont have a gun, and are expected to fight off anyone who breaks the Corps rules. I remember taking a lot of moral highground crap for firing normal rounds instead of gel on a run. Now im not a psycho, but the guard could easily of identified me, so i killed him. Now i admit shooting to kill isnt nice, killing the provider of a family isnt nice either. BUT saying a security guard is just a job like any other, without any consequences is wrong in my opinion. |
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May 16 2005, 08:58 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,010 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
:proof:
:proof: They bombed the towns to kill civilians. That's what it comes down to. Scale was only a matter of capability.
No. They're deniable. That's pretty much the alpha and the omega of it.
Not a valid comparison. In D&D a high-level character character can take blows from mooks for a very long period of time. In Shadowrun a 2,000-karma character is not unlikely to be severely injured if not killed by a six-round APDS HMG burst that can be delivered by someone who, aside from having access to aforementioned HMG and APDS rounds for it, can be built at chargen.
You don't need to be a threat to the government, just the people who make up the government. ~J |
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Gambitt Security Guards.... just a job or a Profession? May 15 2005, 05:04 PM
Smiley I agree. To paraphrase, "If it's a choice... May 15 2005, 05:22 PM Kagetenshi You pays your money and you takes your chances.
~... May 15 2005, 06:47 PM Adam QUOTE (Gambitt)I remember taking a lot of moral hi... May 15 2005, 06:57 PM Kagetenshi Maybe he's not speaking of a character?
~J May 15 2005, 07:01 PM hyzmarca There are many different types of security guards.... May 15 2005, 07:20 PM hermit Overall, in Shadowrun, sec guards kinda are in a p... May 15 2005, 07:58 PM Gambitt QUOTE (Adam)QUOTE (Gambitt)I remember taking a lot... May 15 2005, 10:31 PM hermit QUOTE Depends how its GMed, if someone has a gun p... May 15 2005, 11:15 PM Crimsondude 2.0 And here I was always under the impression that ki... May 15 2005, 11:19 PM Critias QUOTE (hermit) Again, please imagine shadowrunners... May 15 2005, 11:37 PM Crimsondude 2.0 QUOTE (Critias)There's a world of difference b... May 15 2005, 11:45 PM hermit Critas, that describes the ideal shadowrunner grou... May 15 2005, 11:47 PM Crimsondude 2.0 QUOTE (hermit @ May 15 2005, 05:47 PM) Critas... May 15 2005, 11:50 PM TenTonHammer QUOTE (hermit)
I don't believe every last Iraq... May 16 2005, 01:42 AM Kagetenshi <Redacted>
~J May 16 2005, 01:45 AM toturi QUOTE (Critias) Every death must serve a purpose, ... May 16 2005, 01:45 AM scoundrel Frankly, I think it's a bit silly to view a re... May 16 2005, 02:06 AM Kagetenshi Why?
~J May 16 2005, 02:17 AM Smiley In a profession where violence is a prerequisite, ... May 16 2005, 02:21 AM scoundrel QUOTE (Kagetenshi)Why?
~J
Because no corporation ... May 16 2005, 02:43 AM hyzmarca QUOTE (TenTonHammer) QUOTE (hermit)
I don't be... May 16 2005, 03:00 AM scoundrel One thing to consider is that cameras can be defea... May 16 2005, 03:10 AM Ed Simons QUOTE (toturi)They kill because that's good PR... May 16 2005, 03:28 AM Crimsondude 2.0 QUOTE (hyzmarca) That being said, it is possible t... May 16 2005, 03:39 AM Ed Simons QUOTE (scoundrel)One thing to consider is that cam... May 16 2005, 03:46 AM toturi By the time you can be a credible threat, you can ... May 16 2005, 04:02 AM Kagetenshi QUOTE (scoundrel @ May 15 2005, 09:43 PM)Beca... May 16 2005, 04:05 AM scoundrel QUOTE (Kagetenshi)Firstly, I disagree. Not every c... May 16 2005, 04:48 AM Crimsondude 2.0 QUOTE (scoundrel @ May 15 2005, 10:48 PM) QUO... May 16 2005, 04:59 AM hyzmarca QUOTE (Crimsondude 2.0) QUOTE (hyzmarca @ May... May 16 2005, 05:01 AM Kagetenshi QUOTE (hyzmarca @ May 16 2005, 12:01 AM) It i... May 16 2005, 05:03 AM scoundrel QUOTE Heh.
One could incorporate a corporation in... May 16 2005, 05:04 AM Crimsondude 2.0 QUOTE (hyzmarca) QUOTE (Crimsondude 2.0 @ May... May 16 2005, 05:05 AM Kagetenshi QUOTE (scoundrel)When I said corporation, I meant ... May 16 2005, 05:05 AM Crimsondude 2.0 QUOTE (scoundrel) When I said corporation, I meant... May 16 2005, 05:06 AM scoundrel QUOTE *Thumbs up* Congratulations, you've just... May 16 2005, 05:13 AM toturi There are corporations that are worth sending a ru... May 16 2005, 05:24 AM scoundrel Toturi: How would they know about your reputation ... May 16 2005, 05:30 AM hyzmarca QUOTE (scoundrel) Toturi: How would they know abou... May 16 2005, 05:38 AM scoundrel If I was doing security work in Potato Corp and Al... May 16 2005, 05:43 AM Kagetenshi What if there's a team of criminals going arou... May 16 2005, 05:45 AM toturi QUOTE (scoundrel) Toturi: How would they know abou... May 16 2005, 05:51 AM BitBasher QUOTE (Kagetenshi) QUOTE (hyzmarca @ May 16 2... May 16 2005, 05:51 AM scoundrel QUOTE (Kagetenshi)What if there's a team of cr... May 16 2005, 05:58 AM hyzmarca QUOTE (BitBasher) QUOTE Al Capone, Machine Gun Kel... May 16 2005, 06:10 AM CanvasBack Here's the way I look at.
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Nobody came down to DC and asked,"Who ... May 16 2005, 12:07 PM Earthwalker Getting back to the original post.
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1) Relying on an eyewitness to be unreli... May 16 2005, 06:52 PM frostPDP Alright, keep in mind the situation is purely hypo... May 16 2005, 08:18 PM Gambitt I do agree in some ways Sheffield, but the guy had... May 16 2005, 09:12 PM hermit QUOTE You don't need to be a threat to the gov... May 16 2005, 09:14 PM Kagetenshi The difference being that it is orders of magnitud... May 16 2005, 09:25 PM hyzmarca QUOTE (Sheffield @ May 16 2005, 01:05 PM) I f... May 16 2005, 09:30 PM Sheffield Gambitt, I'm not saying Shadowrun is supposed ... May 16 2005, 09:41 PM Kagetenshi If the guards are inhuman cardboard cutouts, you m... May 16 2005, 09:47 PM frostPDP Kage,
What do you need proof of? The numbers are... May 16 2005, 10:48 PM Kagetenshi Sorry, I misinterpreted. I thought you were saying... May 16 2005, 10:49 PM Penta QUOTE (Sheffield) Even taking the runner's rol... May 17 2005, 12:16 AM frostPDP Hehe no harm no foul, Kage. But as for Deus' ... May 17 2005, 12:32 AM Kagetenshi He can make you faster, stronger, more resistant t... May 17 2005, 12:40 AM mfb that's only "bad" if you consider fr... May 17 2005, 12:43 AM FrostyNSO QUOTE (Penta) QUOTE (Sheffield @ May 16 2005,... May 17 2005, 01:28 AM frostPDP True, but for a team of sociopathic runners with a... May 17 2005, 02:00 AM Kagetenshi I find it very unlikely that the team would shrug ... May 17 2005, 02:08 AM frostPDP Truth - Never really seen much by way of Otaku. B... May 17 2005, 08:46 AM Sheffield QUOTE (FrostyNSO) QUOTE (Penta @ May 16 2005,... May 17 2005, 01:11 PM Kagetenshi There's a difference between what one ought to... May 17 2005, 02:21 PM Smiley It's not to say that every guard should expect... May 17 2005, 02:22 PM Sheffield Okay, to try and make sense out of that: The most ... May 17 2005, 02:30 PM
Gambitt This is kind of off topic, but just reminded me of... May 17 2005, 02:40 PM |
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