 Taking another look at LoneStar, So, you think you got away... |
 Jun 22 2005, 07:48 AM
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Dumpshock Widow aka Mrs Fisty  Group: Members Posts: 2,443 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next to Him Member No.: 6,929  |
I was reading about this on CNN and it got me thinking. According to the article the raid was planned as a message to other gang members about what happens when police officers get killed. (I could be wrong but that's the gist of the article that I got). My question is this: would this ever happen in your campaign setting? How retaliatory is Lonestar (or whatever security firm/actual police force you use) in your game? What other forces do you bring to bear on players who get a little too forgetful of those on the other side of the law? Any examples would be greatly appreciated as I'm looking for something to subtly (or not so subtly) nudge a few characters back into watching their backs a little bit more.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, ya'll. |
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Jun 22 2005, 03:01 PM
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Horror Group: Members Posts: 5,322 Joined: 15-June 05 From: BumFuck, New Jersey Member No.: 7,445 |
So noted. This is a Mogadishu scenario waiting to happen. And it can only escalate from Mogadishu to Stalingrad.
This is the kind of thing best left undone. Lone Star will lose a lot less face by letting someone who killed ten cops go free than they will by turning Seattle into an all-out warzone. |
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Plan B Taking another look at LoneStar Jun 22 2005, 07:48 AM
Kagetenshi The thing to do here is to show them that if they ... Jun 22 2005, 07:58 AM toturi That raid is really stupid if it was meant to be r... Jun 22 2005, 08:13 AM FrostyNSO Hehe, in one of my games, Lonestar was getting hur... Jun 22 2005, 08:23 AM Kagetenshi I doubt they'll even enter the Barrens. They m... Jun 22 2005, 08:24 AM FrostyNSO New Seattle says they'll go in if you really p... Jun 22 2005, 08:26 AM fistandantilus3.0 I would love t osee my players face when they see ... Jun 22 2005, 08:32 AM FrostyNSO QUOTE (fistandantilus3.0) I would love t osee my p... Jun 22 2005, 08:37 AM Kagetenshi But they're in the neighborhood. That makes th... Jun 22 2005, 08:39 AM FrostyNSO Good point. Jun 22 2005, 08:40 AM ShadowDragon8685 I guess it depends on the Corp to Cop ratio of Lon... Jun 22 2005, 10:46 AM Grinder Some LS officers would likely start their own litt... Jun 22 2005, 10:54 AM Critias I'd amend that with "it's not normall... Jun 22 2005, 11:11 AM lollerskates QUOTE (Kagetenshi)The thing to do here is to show ... Jun 22 2005, 02:12 PM Edward The difficulty with a strike of that type is that ... Jun 22 2005, 03:00 PM Jrayjoker Both scenarios (all out strike, and just get the o... Jun 22 2005, 03:27 PM Kagetenshi QUOTE (lollerskates @ Jun 22 2005, 09:12 AM) ... Jun 22 2005, 03:28 PM Sicarius Even if it is a corps, its a para-military organiz... Jun 22 2005, 03:52 PM Kagetenshi Any case of a cop going into a Z-zone is a threat ... Jun 22 2005, 03:54 PM Cynic project The way i see lonestart is this, the enforce teh l... Jun 22 2005, 03:57 PM Qillin yeah Frosty really stunned us good the gang war. w... Jun 22 2005, 03:59 PM mmu1 QUOTE (Sicarius @ Jun 22 2005, 10:52 AM) Whil... Jun 22 2005, 04:02 PM ShadowDragon8685 The way I see it, the Barrens are like Mogadishu a... Jun 22 2005, 04:09 PM Jrayjoker Nah, you'd be in for a long term infestation/i... Jun 22 2005, 04:14 PM Austere Emancipator And if gangs "rise up" against a Lone St... Jun 22 2005, 04:21 PM BitBasher QUOTE Cops have to be visible (I know there is und... Jun 22 2005, 04:27 PM Jrayjoker Pure, unadulterated evidence that people are stupi... Jun 22 2005, 04:26 PM ShadowDragon8685 Austere, I think you severely underestimate the qu... Jun 22 2005, 04:36 PM Kagetenshi More to the point, the idiot criminals are the one... Jun 22 2005, 04:48 PM Austere Emancipator QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685)But some of those hooders ... Jun 22 2005, 04:48 PM ShadowDragon8685 If it's a toss-up between being rousted by the... Jun 22 2005, 05:00 PM Austere Emancipator QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685)If it's coming down to... Jun 22 2005, 05:01 PM Kagetenshi QUOTE (Austere Emancipator @ Jun 22 2005, 11:... Jun 22 2005, 05:03 PM Austere Emancipator QUOTE (Kagetenshi)There's also the fact that p... Jun 22 2005, 05:07 PM Sicarius QUOTE]Except that today - in the US at least - the... Jun 22 2005, 05:22 PM weblife The Barrens are full of people. Normal, civilian, ... Jun 22 2005, 05:32 PM Kagetenshi QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) So if your team had so... Jun 22 2005, 05:32 PM Austere Emancipator QUOTE (Sicarius)But even with the popular Mogadish... Jun 22 2005, 05:46 PM nezumi Odd. I'd say no. After all, your neighbors w... Jun 22 2005, 05:46 PM Austere Emancipator QUOTE (Kagetenshi)Yes. Anything else encourages si... Jun 22 2005, 05:51 PM ShadowDragon8685 Runners have turf, too.
And like the gangs, they... Jun 22 2005, 06:02 PM Austere Emancipator QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685)So yes, if I had advanced ... Jun 22 2005, 06:04 PM Kagetenshi QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) I still have to wonder... Jun 22 2005, 06:09 PM shadow_scholar holy crap, how often do you GMs let runners kill c... Jun 22 2005, 06:30 PM Kagetenshi Do you make cops get paid meaningfully more than j... Jun 22 2005, 06:39 PM Austere Emancipator QUOTE (Kagetenshi)It's not about protecting th... Jun 22 2005, 06:39 PM Kagetenshi That means not being a Shadowrunner. We can start ... Jun 22 2005, 06:40 PM Austere Emancipator Oh, right, and I remember one of your threads abou... Jun 22 2005, 06:54 PM ShadowDragon8685 Kagentoshi, you forgot about Bob's Discount Gu... Jun 22 2005, 06:57 PM Kagetenshi Even if you aren't touching a single LS employ... Jun 22 2005, 06:57 PM shadow_scholar QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Jun 22 2005, 01:39 PM) Do... Jun 22 2005, 07:08 PM Austere Emancipator There's a world of difference between killing ... Jun 22 2005, 07:11 PM Critias All I can say is it looks like about five differen... Jun 22 2005, 07:13 PM Austere Emancipator QUOTE (Critias)another about precise overwhelming ... Jun 22 2005, 07:13 PM Cynic project One thing I am noticing about this thread is how m... Jun 22 2005, 07:14 PM nezumi The thing that surprises me is anyone assumes the ... Jun 22 2005, 07:25 PM shadow_scholar QUOTE (Cynic project) One thing I am noticing abou... Jun 22 2005, 07:31 PM Req QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) shadow_scholar: Beslan... Jun 22 2005, 07:33 PM Cynic project QUOTE (shadow_scholar) QUOTE (Cynic project ... Jun 22 2005, 08:42 PM nezumi QUOTE (Cynic project) we can and litarily piss mon... Jun 22 2005, 08:55 PM Kagetenshi QUOTE (nezumi) If they are going to make a raid in... Jun 22 2005, 09:40 PM shadow_scholar QUOTE (Cynic project) Maybe you don't get it, ... Jun 22 2005, 09:43 PM Kagetenshi QUOTE (shadow_scholar) I'm not sure where you... Jun 22 2005, 10:05 PM lollerskates QUOTE (Kagetenshi)The majority of Lone Star consis... Jun 22 2005, 10:26 PM BitBasher QUOTE And BitBasher, please remember that we'r... Jun 22 2005, 10:31 PM lollerskates collateral isn't hollywood? collateral? Jun 22 2005, 10:53 PM BitBasher QUOTE (lollerskates) collateral isn't hollywoo... Jun 22 2005, 11:43 PM Cynic project QUOTE (shadow_scholar) QUOTE (Cynic project ... Jun 23 2005, 12:19 AM ShadowDragon8685 Well of course the whole world is fucked up. That... Jun 23 2005, 12:25 AM toturi QUOTE (lollerskates) then cut a deal with those ho... Jun 23 2005, 12:53 AM lollerskates QUOTE (toturi)How much do you think you'd bet ... Jun 23 2005, 01:15 AM toturi QUOTE (lollerskates) that really depends on whom y... Jun 23 2005, 01:44 AM lollerskates QUOTE (toturi)Yeah, but what about the 10 other ga... Jun 23 2005, 01:58 AM hyzmarca QUOTE (Kagetenshi) QUOTE (nezumi @ Jun 22 200... Jun 23 2005, 05:31 AM lollerskates QUOTE (hyzmarca)Why haven't they done it alrea... Jun 23 2005, 05:37 AM Supercilious The Barrens would chew the 'Star up and spit t... Jun 23 2005, 06:12 AM hyzmarca QUOTE (Supercilious) The Barrens would chew the ... Jun 23 2005, 06:39 AM fistandantilus3.0 Just a couple of thoughts to throw out real quick:... Jun 23 2005, 06:40 AM ShadowDragon8685 I don't think it would happen.
After all, th... Jun 23 2005, 09:30 AM Austere Emancipator QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685)So yeah. Lone Star going i... Jun 23 2005, 02:06 PM toturi If you see gangs as mere street gangs, maybe they ... Jun 23 2005, 03:11 PM nezumi QUOTE (Kagetenshi) It's not something they can... Jun 23 2005, 03:53 PM mfb you guys are talking about two completely differen... Jun 23 2005, 04:07 PM Kagetenshi Even a quick raid with overwhelming force seems im... Jun 23 2005, 04:15 PM shadow_scholar QUOTE (Kagetenshi)Probably NAGNA.
I checked my NA... Jun 23 2005, 04:52 PM BitBasher I think most folks here are giving gangers way too... Jun 23 2005, 04:51 PM mfb QUOTE (Kagetenshi) Even a quick raid with overwhel... Jun 23 2005, 05:10 PM FrostyNSO Just look at the weaponry included with the Troll ... Jun 23 2005, 05:22 PM The Archimage Trying to coordinate all the gangs to work togethe... Jun 23 2005, 05:55 PM Nikoli Simple then, once the coalition is formed of the v... Jun 23 2005, 06:14 PM mmu1 QUOTE (mfb) QUOTE (Kagetenshi) Even a quick raid w... Jun 23 2005, 06:14 PM nezumi Or that really no one needs those particular highw... Jun 23 2005, 07:19 PM PBTHHHHT Argh, listening to all these arguments back and fo... Jun 23 2005, 09:11 PM Supercilious A raid will work, I think we all agree on that. It... Jun 26 2005, 12:16 AM BitBasher QUOTE (Supercilious) A lone sniper can hold back a... Jun 26 2005, 01:03 AM FrostyNSO And if the mage isn't available, I'm sure ... Jun 26 2005, 01:12 AM ShadowDragon8685 Until your elementals and precious mages get their... Jun 26 2005, 01:13 AM ShadowDragon8685 Frosty: They've tried that before. Not only is... Jun 26 2005, 01:15 AM
FrostyNSO It's alot easier to lure the ones that do end ... Jun 26 2005, 01:16 AM |
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