 Where are the SR4 hate threads? |
 Sep 1 2005, 10:55 AM
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Some weeks ago a lot of people here complained and complained about SR4 without actually knowing either the rules nor the new setting.
Now SR4 is availabe (at least as PDF) and no "I hate SR4 because no Drop Bears are in it"-threads appear here. What happened to all the SR4-haters? Can't imagine they all deleted their DS account. :D |
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Sep 1 2005, 10:45 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 807 Joined: 9-October 04 Member No.: 6,741 |
Aye, yes I have. And, trust me, exceptional stat doesn't do anything when you can have a starting character with an 11 in a stat. You see, some of us make it a point to at least attempt to memorize the racial maximums.
You mean you have missed the four threads in which this was covered? Four entire threads? Tell you what. You build a character with a stat above six, just for the hell of it, and play SR4. Then tell me how well it holds together. As it is, I'm not going to post 20+ pages of mathematics just to satisfy your whim.
Go here: http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=9694 My post is on the second page. Read it.
Yeah, I guess you are. Might want to check that. Start with the dozen or so topics already dealing with it.
Stat 7 + Skill 6 = 13 dice. Perfectly possible at chargen.
Actually, a cheat code would have you starting with 12+ dice. The best SR characters often had a dozen or more dice to throw. Hell, 20 dice is perfectly believable. And don't get me started on the godlike AIs.
You're kinda doing something wrong if that's all the dice you can get.
Congrats. You weren't casting powerful-enough spells. That's called "using some sense" for spellcasting.
It's interesting you say that now and don't bother checking the other threads. Or, for that matter, are apparently not bothering to read the title of this one. |
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Grinder Where are the SR4 hate threads? Sep 1 2005, 10:55 AM
hobgoblin if only...
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