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emo samurai
post Jul 7 2006, 06:10 PM
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On one hand, you have magic and gizmos and gadgets. Magic fucking rocks, and if the Awakening happens, I will become a mage by virtue of my rocking. Crippled people will walk and manipulate things again because of cloned organs and cyberware. Most current diseases will have been cured because of crazy unethical medical research.

On the other hand, you have soy food, monsters that go bump and "grr eat human" in the night, and megacorporate control. Oh, and cybered gangs, and drugs, and coffin motels, and... you get the point.

So which world would you live in, our world, or the world of sort-of-darkness?
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ShadowDragon8685
post Jul 11 2006, 09:03 AM
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That's more of a human phenomina. Almost anything seems better than what you're in right now.

You ever heard an old guy grumping about the good old days? That's because he's in the now, and he's forgotten what life was actually life back then, and he just remembers all the good things, like being 20 years old and courting his beau.

Or any of us, who love escapist fantasy. D&D, Shadowrun, whatever. We hate modern day life. Iraq, Afghanistan, terror in the air, 9/11...

Some of us pine for a future where mages and trolls exist and you can master your own destiny with a cyberdeck/comlink/set of cyberware/magical powers.

Some of us pine for heroic fantasy, where the elves were beautiful and put out, the heros were huge and heroic, and evil was powerful but dumb, and thus overcomable.

Some of us pine for romantic notions about pirate gold and treasure, and high adventure on the high seas. (Watch Pirates of the Caribbean again, it'll come back to you.)

Hell, some of us think that being back in the Cold War would be better than now. In a way, it's true. We were 99.99% certain that the Soviets didn't want to see their way of life anhilliated any more than we wanted to see ours anhilliated, and we were at least 50% sure they didn't nessessarily want to anhilliate our way of life, only safeguard theirs.

You could understand and reason with the Soviets. The modern day terror? No way. How can one reason with someone who will strap a vest of explosives on and detonate it in a crowded bus? They literally think that if they blow up the world and in doing so anhilliate our way of life, they'll get on the express straight to heaven and their 77 virgins.

Or worse, Kim-Jong Il, the lunatic nut who takes brinksmanship to a whole new level. The North Korean has no freedom of information, he only knows what he's allowed to know, and he's been brainwashed and propagandized into believing that we could sweep over the border at any minute to wipe out their democratic people's republic. (Even if it's democratic and a republic in name only.) Thusly, he'll fight to the death.

You can't reason with that. And frankly it's scary.*


Or hell, you could pine for the days of WWII, where everything was clean-cut, everybody knew without doubt that we were fighting a war that was not only just and rightious, but that would dictate the terms of our civilization's unfolding for at least a century to come, and probably longer. Sure, the technology sucked and yadda yadda, but at least you could look in a mirror and say "I'm doing what is right, and if I don't, my children are either going to be shipped to a gas chamber, or grow up swearing Heil Hitler."

You can't get that today. Freedom of information and the sensationalist press cloud things and tint them to the point that you can't do anything without being called a bully. And when you try, shit gets ploughed in your face.

Yes, I do believe Afghanistan and Iraq needed to be invaded. I do not believe invading Iraq under false pretenses was good. I do not believe going in with only vauge goals and no definable exit strategy was good. The only good thing that has come so far of the war in Iraq is the nipping in the bud of the Hussein Dynasty.



*Yes, I am expressing my own opinions. Islamic fundies scare the shit out of me, just like fundies of any stripe would if I had reasonable cause to believe they could get their hands on some very nasty weapons of mass death. I'm not accusing every moslem or arab of being a lunatic - I'm just saying that the lunatics amongst them scare me pale.
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- emo samurai   Would you like to live in the SR universe?   Jul 7 2006, 06:10 PM
- - Platinum   yes, but only if I was magically active.   Jul 7 2006, 06:33 PM
- - James McMurray   I've got no problems being a corporate lackey ...   Jul 7 2006, 06:38 PM
- - Shrike30   Live in the SR world? Where the OTHER 1% of the p...   Jul 7 2006, 06:39 PM
- - James McMurray   Apart from the magic, we're well on our way to...   Jul 7 2006, 06:42 PM
- - PBTHHHHT   QUOTE (Shrike30) Live in the REAL world? Where th...   Jul 7 2006, 06:48 PM
- - Shrike30   Heh.   Jul 7 2006, 06:49 PM
- - emo samurai   Yeah, magic should even things out.   Jul 7 2006, 06:54 PM
- - Sahandrian   Yes. Because if I don't get magic, I can still...   Jul 7 2006, 07:11 PM
- - Backgammon   It's a DYSTOPIA. EVERYTHING has gone wrong. On...   Jul 7 2006, 07:13 PM
- - emo samurai   What if you were a magician?   Jul 7 2006, 07:14 PM
- - deek   I would certainly be up for that...although I woul...   Jul 7 2006, 07:18 PM
- - hyzmarca   The trick to living comfortably in SR is the same ...   Jul 7 2006, 08:04 PM
- - BookWyrm   If I were a mage, oh hell yes.   Jul 7 2006, 08:05 PM
- - emo samurai   Dude, mages rock.   Jul 7 2006, 08:10 PM
- - Shrike30   QUOTE (hyzmarca) The trick to living comfortably i...   Jul 7 2006, 08:13 PM
- - stevebugge   No thanks. If I wanted to live in an SR like sett...   Jul 7 2006, 08:51 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...only if I were human and lived in the Swiss Con...   Jul 7 2006, 08:53 PM
- - Butterblume   I so voted no...   Jul 7 2006, 09:01 PM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE (Shrike30) QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Jul 7 2006...   Jul 7 2006, 10:16 PM
- - emo samurai   What do you mean by peachy? I thought that the ave...   Jul 7 2006, 11:30 PM
- - FanGirl   You just described the average megacorp office of ...   Jul 8 2006, 12:10 AM
- - mfb   jesus christ, no. the fact that the real world is ...   Jul 8 2006, 12:29 AM
- - DragginSPADE   I voted no as well. I like being able to do my...   Jul 8 2006, 01:03 AM
- - PBTHHHHT   oh c'mon draggin, you can lose the arm... and ...   Jul 8 2006, 01:29 AM
- - Demon_Bob   Do I get to be someone the rich or powerful come t...   Jul 8 2006, 01:53 AM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE (emo samurai) What do you mean by peachy? I ...   Jul 8 2006, 02:16 AM
- - Herald of Verjigorm   QUOTE (Demon_Bob) Do I get to be someone the rich ...   Jul 8 2006, 02:32 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (Kyoto Kid)...only if I were human and lived...   Jul 10 2006, 04:40 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (Herald of Verjigorm) QUOTE (Demon_Bob ...   Jul 10 2006, 09:11 AM
- - Witness   I suppose it would kind of depend if you got to ch...   Jul 10 2006, 09:42 AM
- - Herald of Verjigorm   QUOTE (Witness)Everyone (unless rich enough to pla...   Jul 10 2006, 10:27 AM
- - Witness   Uh no. They don't read my emotions or astrally...   Jul 10 2006, 02:19 PM
- - nezumi   I'd prefer to live in 2060 than have to live t...   Jul 10 2006, 02:22 PM
- - SL James   QUOTE (Witness) Uh no. They don't read my emot...   Jul 10 2006, 03:16 PM
- - Witness   Well that just flags up the whole problem of there...   Jul 10 2006, 03:29 PM
- - mfb   yeah. i'm not sure the people who voted 'y...   Jul 10 2006, 04:40 PM
- - James McMurray   Nope, but I wouldn't be living in Gaza, I...   Jul 10 2006, 04:46 PM
- - Witness   I think this might be where the question breaks do...   Jul 10 2006, 05:26 PM
- - James McMurray   Nope, I wouldn't be rich and uber. I'd mos...   Jul 10 2006, 05:39 PM
- - Witness   And you'd still rather live in the SR universe...   Jul 10 2006, 05:45 PM
- - James McMurray   Why not? Overall the life a typical citizen doesn...   Jul 10 2006, 05:58 PM
- - PBTHHHHT   QUOTE (James McMurray) [*]placing yourself in a po...   Jul 10 2006, 06:10 PM
- - Witness   Hmm. You build a decent case there, James. But it ...   Jul 10 2006, 06:20 PM
- - nezumi   I'd have to toss my chips in with James. I...   Jul 10 2006, 06:29 PM
- - Witness   So they've tried to create a game that's a...   Jul 10 2006, 06:55 PM
- - nezumi   They built a world based on the extreme fears of t...   Jul 10 2006, 07:09 PM
- - stevebugge   QUOTE (Witness) So they've tried to create a g...   Jul 10 2006, 07:10 PM
- - Witness   It's about the most flagrant case of 'the ...   Jul 10 2006, 07:20 PM
- - Lindt   QUOTE (mfb) Jesus christ, no. the fact that the re...   Jul 10 2006, 07:32 PM
- - nezumi   QUOTE (Witness) It's about the most flagrant c...   Jul 10 2006, 08:34 PM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE You've probably lost all your savings in...   Jul 10 2006, 08:37 PM
- - SL James   QUOTE (Witness)Your 14-year old daughter comes hom...   Jul 10 2006, 08:59 PM
- - nezumi   Being the sort of person I am, I really would pref...   Jul 10 2006, 09:06 PM
- - James McMurray   I guess it all boils down to the view you have of ...   Jul 10 2006, 09:10 PM
- - mfb   QUOTE (James McMurray)    * quirks of fa...   Jul 10 2006, 09:20 PM
- - James McMurray   Yeah, there are large areas of crime. I'll be ...   Jul 10 2006, 09:33 PM
- - Witness   QUOTE (nezumi @ Jul 10 2006, 03:34 PM) I thin...   Jul 10 2006, 10:45 PM
- - stevebugge   Time for a spin-off thread I think   Jul 10 2006, 10:52 PM
- - mfb   QUOTE (James McMurray)Yeah, there are large areas ...   Jul 10 2006, 11:46 PM
- - James McMurray   Or you go about your life blissfully. I'm sure...   Jul 10 2006, 11:51 PM
- - mfb   i should have explained the stock market thing bet...   Jul 10 2006, 11:59 PM
- - SL James   QUOTE (mfb) today, if you stick to brightly-lit ar...   Jul 11 2006, 01:10 AM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (mfb) consider the crime rate in SR to today...   Jul 11 2006, 01:42 AM
- - mfb   QUOTE (hyzmarca)That's the same as today only ...   Jul 11 2006, 02:01 AM
- - James McMurray   I meant that people wouldn't follow the stock ...   Jul 11 2006, 03:14 AM
- - mfb   it's not just Puyallup, though. every district...   Jul 11 2006, 04:30 AM
- - Witness   Some way above I took a whole bunch of everyday an...   Jul 11 2006, 07:57 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   That's more of a human phenomina. Almost anyth...   Jul 11 2006, 09:03 AM
- - SL James   I wouldn't call Dumpshockers ordinary by any s...   Jul 11 2006, 09:04 AM
- - Witness   Yes, as I was typing that I was aware that the ter...   Jul 11 2006, 09:11 AM
- - Nidhogg   QUOTE (Witness) After all, everyday joes end up pa...   Jul 11 2006, 11:12 AM
- - Witness   Doh.   Jul 11 2006, 12:49 PM
- - nezumi   QUOTE (mfb) i should have explained the stock mark...   Jul 11 2006, 01:30 PM
- - Neverborn   this is my inner nerd speaking by all means Well ...   Jul 11 2006, 07:10 PM
- - SL James   Gah. Your description sounds like hipster Hell.   Jul 11 2006, 07:44 PM
- - Neverborn   I think i was shooting for that   Jul 11 2006, 08:00 PM
- - Nidhogg   QUOTE (Witness) Doh. What can I say? I like ge...   Jul 11 2006, 08:08 PM
- - NightmareX   QUOTE (mfb)jesus christ, no. the fact that the rea...   Jul 12 2006, 10:35 PM
- - mfb   *shrug* you're assuming you'd be a badass ...   Jul 12 2006, 10:42 PM
- - NightmareX   QUOTE (mfb)*shrug* you're assuming you'd b...   Jul 12 2006, 11:03 PM
- - hyzmarca   You don't have to be a baddass shadowrunner so...   Jul 12 2006, 11:14 PM
- - mfb   if you really want that, you can join any number o...   Jul 12 2006, 11:16 PM
- - NightmareX   QUOTE (mfb)if you really want that, you can join a...   Jul 12 2006, 11:36 PM
- - mfb   then, regardless, your chance at "really livi...   Jul 12 2006, 11:50 PM
- - Shadow   I want the the guns, cars, cyber and other toys. S...   Jul 13 2006, 12:14 AM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE (NightmareX) I voted yes for this very reaso...   Jul 13 2006, 12:17 AM
- - James McMurray   Does living under a bridge count? It was spring so...   Jul 13 2006, 12:18 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   It's all about the cyberware for me. Unless I ...   Jul 13 2006, 07:52 AM
- - Grinder   Being able to get some cyberware installed (especi...   Jul 13 2006, 09:57 AM
- - Witness   I could happily live in a future with elf chicks, ...   Jul 13 2006, 10:01 AM
- - Grinder   Or you could do your best to make the world a bett...   Jul 13 2006, 10:06 AM
- - SL James   Like any hot elf chick would be interested in a me...   Jul 13 2006, 11:06 AM
- - Grinder   As long as I enjoy my job, I don't care if I...   Jul 13 2006, 11:13 AM
- - NightmareX   QUOTE (James McMurray) IMO SR crime is flashier, g...   Jul 14 2006, 06:58 AM
- - NightmareX   QUOTE (mfb)then, regardless, your chance at ...   Jul 14 2006, 07:05 AM
- - mfb   QUOTE (Grinder)I don't think my profession wil...   Jul 14 2006, 07:05 AM
- - Grinder   Germany is a wonderful country, isn't it?   Jul 14 2006, 07:10 AM
- - Milton   QUOTE (Shrike30) Live in the SR world? Where the ...   Jul 14 2006, 08:38 AM
- - Milton   QUOTE (Grinder) Germany is a wonderful country,...   Jul 14 2006, 08:39 AM
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