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WhiskeyMac
post Oct 2 2006, 03:03 PM
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I've noticed that most people have made a character with some type of military background and that sometimes the skills don't really make sense for the background. So, I was wondering what would be a normal skillset for a soldier in the UCAS/CAS/Sioux/Pueblo/Aztlan army? I'm talking standard infantry soldier and then from there what would be the specialized skills for say, a drone rigger, magic support, heavy weapons support, and several other MOSs. I'm also kind of interested because of a future campaign idea as well. Thanks.
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Moon-Hawk
post Oct 3 2006, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig)
QUOTE (Moon-Hawk @ Oct 3 2006, 06:55 PM)
Sure, you could save millions of nuyen if you skip firearms training, and survival, and all that other training, but dang it, that stuff builds character and discipline, which you can't get on a chip.

Indeed, skipping physical training is not an option.
But, everything else - why bother training them to use every weapon available if they just can switch to the right software?

Because, if you just grab someone off the street and slap skillwires on them and send them into battle, they're going to act like some schmoe you just grabbed off the street. They'll probably panic, freak out, and shoot the wrong thing (but with very high skill), or just do something catastrophically stupid.
I'm suggesting that the training exists for purposes other than imparting skill. Although, like Lagomorph said, you could chip them with weapon skills, knowledge skills, and a personafix, but at that point why don't you just save a whole bunch of money and buy a drone?
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- WhiskeyMac   Skillset for Military Archetypes   Oct 2 2006, 03:03 PM
- - Slithery D   Infantry rifleman with about two years in, finishe...   Oct 2 2006, 04:56 PM
- - Butterblume   Looks fine to me. I am not entirely sure if long ...   Oct 2 2006, 05:28 PM
- - lorechaser   For those of us outside the miliatry, what are rea...   Oct 2 2006, 05:43 PM
- - blakkie   I see the Knowledge skill selection being very imp...   Oct 2 2006, 06:49 PM
- - Slithery D   I chose long distance running speciality because w...   Oct 2 2006, 07:14 PM
- - WhiskeyMac   Thanks, those are quite helpful. Now, what about s...   Oct 2 2006, 07:16 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   What would be a reasonable cyberware budget? Hmmm...   Oct 2 2006, 07:19 PM
- - blakkie   I think they are likely to retain hard Datajacks w...   Oct 2 2006, 07:25 PM
- - Butterblume   Since soldiers almost always wear some kind of hel...   Oct 2 2006, 07:43 PM
- - Critias   QUOTE (WhiskeyMac) Thanks, those are quite helpful...   Oct 2 2006, 08:01 PM
- - Slithery D   I think a case can be made for Wired 1 or Control ...   Oct 2 2006, 08:11 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   Some quick internet research says that the US spen...   Oct 2 2006, 08:17 PM
- - DireRadiant   Need to feed them you know....   Oct 2 2006, 08:21 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   Um, yeah, that comes out of the $200,000 per ...   Oct 2 2006, 08:24 PM
- - Slithery D   Full body armor w/helmet, environmental adaptation...   Oct 2 2006, 08:26 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   Even unhardened, if the enemy is wearing armor hal...   Oct 2 2006, 08:34 PM
- - blakkie   Keep in mind too that those are retail prices. In...   Oct 2 2006, 08:37 PM
- - Slithery D   I wonder about the legality of advanced ammo types...   Oct 2 2006, 08:39 PM
- - lorechaser   What's the recovery time on something like Wir...   Oct 2 2006, 08:41 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (lorechaser) What's the recovery time on...   Oct 2 2006, 08:46 PM
- - lorechaser   Excellent counterpoint! Although I think most...   Oct 2 2006, 08:49 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   Hahahaha. It occurs to me that a sleep regulator w...   Oct 2 2006, 08:52 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (blakkie)Incidentally what's the current...   Oct 2 2006, 09:02 PM
- - Butterblume   After you have trained your soldier to a reasonabl...   Oct 2 2006, 09:04 PM
- - kzt   QUOTE (blakkie) Keep in mind too that those are re...   Oct 2 2006, 09:05 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   Heh, that stuff they sell is well above the qualit...   Oct 2 2006, 09:22 PM
- - FlakJacket   QUOTE (WhiskeyMac)Thanks, those are quite helpful....   Oct 2 2006, 09:30 PM
- - kzt   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) Heh, that stuff they s...   Oct 2 2006, 09:31 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   Wow. Checked it out, and had no idea the basic SAP...   Oct 2 2006, 09:54 PM
- - Slithery D   QUOTE (Butterblume) I think the basic rifleman wou...   Oct 2 2006, 09:58 PM
- - Brahm   Per plate Austere Emancipator? So about $5000...   Oct 2 2006, 09:59 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   The standard SAPI plates are apparently worth arou...   Oct 2 2006, 10:07 PM
- - kzt   QUOTE (Brahm) Per plate Austere Emancipator? So ab...   Oct 2 2006, 10:15 PM
- - FlakJacket   QUOTE (Slithery D)QUOTE (Butterblume @ Oct 2 ...   Oct 2 2006, 10:15 PM
- - kzt   QUOTE (FlakJacket) Wear it under armoured clothing...   Oct 2 2006, 10:35 PM
- - Slithery D   The camouflage suit already provides 8/6 armor, se...   Oct 2 2006, 10:35 PM
- - dabigz732   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator)The standard SAPI plate...   Oct 3 2006, 11:15 AM
- - Austere Emancipator   Crikey, that's fast. Good to hear they're ...   Oct 3 2006, 11:50 AM
- - dabigz732   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) Crikey, that's fas...   Oct 3 2006, 01:06 PM
- - Shrike30   I can easily see Flare Comp and Dampening being st...   Oct 3 2006, 04:31 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   Skillwires. Honestly, it's quite expensive to ...   Oct 3 2006, 04:46 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig) Skillwires. Honestly, i...   Oct 3 2006, 04:55 PM
- - Mistwalker   But software can be compromised in all kinds of wa...   Oct 3 2006, 04:55 PM
- - Lagomorph   QUOTE (Moon-Hawk) if you skip firearms training, a...   Oct 3 2006, 05:04 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (Moon-Hawk) Sure, you could save millions of...   Oct 3 2006, 05:16 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig) QUOTE (Moon-Hawk ...   Oct 3 2006, 05:24 PM
- - lorechaser   For the same reason you need an editor, even when ...   Oct 3 2006, 05:25 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   Training them to get used to combat situations is ...   Oct 3 2006, 05:30 PM
- - Shrike30   "Grunts" in a combat situation that last...   Oct 3 2006, 07:26 PM
- - WhiskeyMac   I would say no to skillwires simply because it mak...   Oct 3 2006, 07:30 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (Shrike30) "Grunts" in a combat si...   Oct 3 2006, 07:53 PM
- - Shrike30   Assuming you allocate 3 to each of those nifty ski...   Oct 3 2006, 08:59 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   You would be better off buying skillgroups - only ...   Oct 3 2006, 10:11 PM
- - Crusher Bob   Also, exploit specialties. A skill of automatics ...   Oct 4 2006, 06:03 AM
- - WhiskeyMac   The thing is Rotbart, skillwires aren't a good...   Oct 4 2006, 06:51 AM
- - Zen Shooter01   You don't actually need skills for a lot of th...   Oct 4 2006, 06:55 AM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (WhiskeyMac)Yes they give you training cheap...   Oct 4 2006, 10:12 AM
- - Critias   I think it's kind of funny that some people wi...   Oct 4 2006, 10:28 AM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (Critias) I think it's kind of funny tha...   Oct 4 2006, 10:44 AM
- - morlock76   To cyber or not, is the question... Even though t...   Oct 4 2006, 11:38 AM
- - Ranneko   I would expect the no skill wires for your typical...   Oct 4 2006, 11:42 AM
- - 6thDragon   On average, conscripts serve much shorter service ...   Oct 4 2006, 12:56 PM
- - Zen Shooter01   I think that in the 6th World the "average gr...   Oct 4 2006, 01:00 PM
- - Narmio   QUOTE (Zen Shooter01) I think that in the 6th Worl...   Oct 4 2006, 01:55 PM
- - Crusher Bob   Here, how do these looks for basic training and ad...   Oct 4 2006, 02:50 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (Zen Shooter01)I think that in the 6th World...   Oct 4 2006, 04:18 PM
- - Dragonscript   Swap out Blade for Unarmed. What people are forge...   Oct 4 2006, 04:21 PM
- - Slithery D   Athletics group is probably unrealistic past level...   Oct 4 2006, 04:30 PM
- - Critias   QUOTE (Dragonscript) Swap out Blade for Unarmed. ...   Oct 4 2006, 04:31 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig) QUOTE (WhiskeyMac)Yes t...   Oct 4 2006, 04:31 PM
- - Slithery D   QUOTE (Critias) QUOTE (Dragonscript @ Oct 4 2...   Oct 4 2006, 04:35 PM
- - Butterblume   QUOTE (Slithery D)Athletics group is probably unre...   Oct 4 2006, 05:44 PM
- - Shrike30   Having grunts that can do things like keep their b...   Oct 4 2006, 05:58 PM
- - Dragonscript   QUOTE (Critias) QUOTE (Dragonscript @ Oct 4 2...   Oct 4 2006, 06:04 PM
- - dabigz732   QUOTE (Dragonscript) lol, 1 rank in first aid is m...   Oct 4 2006, 06:38 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (dabigz732 @ Oct 4 2006, 12:38 PM) What...   Oct 4 2006, 07:08 PM
- - dabigz732   QUOTE (blakkie) QUOTE (dabigz732 @ Oct 4 2006...   Oct 4 2006, 07:11 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (dabigz732 @ Oct 4 2006, 01:11 PM) QUOT...   Oct 4 2006, 07:18 PM
- - Zen Shooter01   Where wired reflexes would really shine is in squa...   Oct 4 2006, 07:33 PM
- - Shrike30   Yeah, but then you gotta carry it around. And go ...   Oct 4 2006, 07:37 PM
- - Crusher Bob   QUOTE (Dragonscript @ Oct 5 2006, 12:21 AM) S...   Oct 5 2006, 01:21 AM
- - Cleremond   Having served 6 years active duty U.S. Army, the a...   Oct 6 2006, 07:34 PM


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