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post Nov 9 2006, 04:50 AM
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i think i might buy a console system by the end of the year, i'm trying to decide which one i should go with. Xbox seems to be more shoot'em up games and sports games. I love rpg and stragety which i dont' know if the playstation will keep it's dominace in the field. Yeah they got Final Fantasy series, but since the last great one (tactics) I haven't held much confidence (though the new one looks good). WII will be the cheapest, with 2 kids and a nagging wife I"m constantly strapped for cash, and i think it would have more kid friendly games as well.



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QUOTE (Moon-Hawk)
I'll ask the naive question, Eidolon. What's the purpose in this? Why create the false shortage? Doesn't that cause them to make less money, by selling less units? If PS3s are selling for $9,000 (I almost put 9000 nuyen) on ebay, Sony isn't seeing anything past their initial sale anyway. So why?

Hype. Create a false shortage to ensure initial sales are 100%, then leak them onto the market until it's not the "it" thing as much anymore, keeping the sales up, and then ship normal numbers. Yes, later demand will be slightly lessened, since all of the early adopters and "have to have it nows" have already stood in their riots to get one, but look at stores that still couldn't keep PS2s in stock a year or so after their release.

And as far as not seeing the profits off of resold units, they know it's going to happen. And all it does is further the hype. Hype is sales, especially in these kinds of markets.

Kage, look at reality man. Do you think that Sony couldn't have upped production? Couldn't have just contracted a couple more manufacturers to build components? I'm sure at a certain point it stops being a good enough ROI, but fuck man, look at every other electronic component on Earth. They ship more initial units of a home theater system than they did the PS3. Yeah, okay, maybe the market is larger for speakers and a DVD player. But 500k units for "the" next console mother of all consoles we're gonna roxxor your soxxors? And "miss the holiday season"? Last I checked, it's not even Thanksgiving until this Thursday. Want to sell every unit in about 5 minutes? Launch on the day after turkey-fest.

But hey, think what you want. I'm not saying I know 100% beyond any doubt period end of story that I'm totally the rightzorz. I'm just saying it makes far more sense than thinking that Sony
a: didn't know what the demand would be
b: couldn't up production.


Hype hype hype.
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- Hocus Pocus   xbox, playstation, or wii?   Nov 9 2006, 04:50 AM
- - Garrowolf   I'm going to get the wii because I like the co...   Nov 9 2006, 08:42 AM
- - Firewall   Wii first, then I might buy a 360. There is nothi...   Nov 9 2006, 10:25 AM
- - eidolon   PC. Best, console, ever.   Nov 9 2006, 02:58 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   I already have a great PC, an XBox, and a Gamecube...   Nov 9 2006, 03:56 PM
- - Casazil   Wii to start with till say 3 or 4 years from now w...   Nov 9 2006, 09:11 PM
- - 2bit   Chances are you won't be able to get a PS3 thi...   Nov 9 2006, 11:14 PM
- - PBTHHHHT   boy's club?! whatever do you mean? I mea...   Nov 9 2006, 11:19 PM
- - Hocus Pocus   what's the deal with the controlers of wii? w...   Nov 10 2006, 04:56 AM
- - Kagetenshi   For what it's worth, I'm probably going wi...   Nov 10 2006, 06:38 PM
- - Casazil   QUOTE (Hocus Pocus) Final fantasy- never got into ...   Nov 10 2006, 08:28 PM
- - Hocus Pocus   1,2,3(the best) *disclaimer...US versions* ...   Nov 11 2006, 04:30 AM
- - Kagetenshi   I've been kinda down on pluperfect music latel...   Nov 11 2006, 06:32 AM
- - Hocus Pocus   saw my first wii commercial today. kid was playing...   Nov 16 2006, 04:41 AM
- - Hocus Pocus   read some stories of people camping for the consol...   Nov 17 2006, 05:35 AM
- - hyzmarca   Wii, from the reviews I've seen it delivers wh...   Nov 17 2006, 07:20 AM
- - Kagetenshi   Report is that about two hundred games don't w...   Nov 18 2006, 03:50 PM
- - hyzmarca   One of the big problems (I dare say the biggest) i...   Nov 18 2006, 08:32 PM
- - Kagetenshi   The PS2 hard drive would have to be emulated, as u...   Nov 18 2006, 08:55 PM
- - BlueRondo   At this point, I don't have much interest in a...   Nov 18 2006, 09:07 PM
- - Kagetenshi   "Innovative" is debatable. It's an i...   Nov 18 2006, 09:57 PM
- - eidolon   A man in Minnesota was shot and robbed walking out...   Nov 19 2006, 02:10 AM
- - clegrady   There were also three similar incidents in WI, KT,...   Nov 19 2006, 03:46 AM
- - Fortune   Is it bad to say that I am not in the least surpri...   Nov 19 2006, 04:04 AM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Nov 18 2006, 04:57 PM) ...   Nov 19 2006, 04:38 AM
- - Caine Hazen   QUOTE (eidolon) A man in Minnesota was shot and ro...   Nov 19 2006, 04:58 AM
- - Adam   There are probably 50+ awesome games I haven't...   Nov 19 2006, 05:22 AM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (eidolon @ Nov 18 2006, 09:10 PM) how f...   Nov 19 2006, 05:46 AM
- - clegrady   QUOTE (Fortune) Is it bad to say that I am not in ...   Nov 19 2006, 06:02 AM
- - eidolon   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) QUOTE (eidolon @ Nov 18 20...   Nov 20 2006, 04:02 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   The Wii is amazingly fun. Wii sports are pretty s...   Nov 20 2006, 05:21 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (eidolon) Especially when the assholes (read...   Nov 20 2006, 08:49 PM
- - eidolon   If you honestly thought that what Sony did doesn...   Nov 20 2006, 09:37 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   I'll ask the naive question, Eidolon. What...   Nov 20 2006, 09:43 PM
- - Witness   Despite being a Playstation fan and owning a PS2, ...   Nov 20 2006, 09:46 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (eidolon) If you honestly thought that what ...   Nov 20 2006, 09:59 PM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Moon-Hawk) If PS3s are selling for $9,...   Nov 20 2006, 10:01 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (Fortune) QUOTE (Moon-Hawk @ Nov 21 200...   Nov 20 2006, 10:10 PM
- - Caine Hazen   QUOTE (Moon-Hawk) QUOTE (Fortune @ Nov 20 200...   Nov 21 2006, 12:32 AM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Moon-Hawk) That has to be illegal. Doesn...   Nov 21 2006, 02:02 AM
- - eidolon   QUOTE (Moon-Hawk) I'll ask the naive question,...   Nov 21 2006, 03:25 AM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (eidolon @ Nov 20 2006, 10:25 PM) Kage,...   Nov 21 2006, 03:37 AM
- - eidolon   Okay. Agree to disagree. Whale's vagina. ...   Nov 21 2006, 03:11 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   Could be. I don't know enough to form a stron...   Nov 21 2006, 03:32 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (eidolon @ Nov 21 2006, 10:11 AM) Agree...   Nov 21 2006, 03:34 PM
- - eidolon   @Moon-Hawk, It'd be interesting. I wonder wh...   Nov 21 2006, 03:49 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) Moon-Hawk: define "lose...   Nov 21 2006, 04:18 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Well, it would be worse than that—it would be how ...   Nov 21 2006, 04:22 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   I meant something in the Gamecube to N64 level of ...   Nov 21 2006, 04:27 PM
- - mintcar   Sony had troubles with manufacturing, that's a...   Nov 21 2006, 07:39 PM
- - Dantic   QUOTE (eidolon) A man in Minnesota was shot and ro...   Nov 23 2006, 03:13 AM
- - Dantic   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) QUOTE (eidolon @ Nov 18 20...   Nov 23 2006, 03:18 AM
- - Fortune   Shit! We were doing runs for Tickle-Me-Dunky™ ...   Nov 23 2006, 03:32 AM
- - Nikoli   LOL, I love the Wii comercials. Since I'm not...   Nov 23 2006, 05:55 AM
- - Bull   I own a 360, picked it up last May or so, love it....   Nov 23 2006, 04:46 PM
- - Hocus Pocus   It is looking more and more like the wii for me. L...   Nov 29 2006, 04:03 AM
- - Casazil   got courious today looked over on ebay you too can...   Nov 29 2006, 05:44 AM
- - Kagetenshi   *Waves little flag in air* ~J   Nov 29 2006, 06:49 AM
- - KarmaInferno   Posted before but it's still appropriate. -k...   Nov 29 2006, 04:09 PM
- - Kagetenshi   No, it's been fucking stupid since VGCats post...   Nov 29 2006, 04:20 PM
- - eidolon   Meh, says you. I think it's hilarious.   Nov 29 2006, 04:24 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (Hocus Pocus) The only drawbacks are no dvd ...   Nov 29 2006, 04:28 PM
- - Warmaster Lah   1.) I always wait a year when a new system comes o...   Nov 29 2006, 04:53 PM
- - Hocus Pocus   have a dvd/vcr combo thing where the dvd player pa...   Nov 30 2006, 03:52 AM
- - 2bit   QUOTE (Moon-Hawk) QUOTE (Hocus Pocus @ Nov 28...   Nov 30 2006, 05:10 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (2bit) Zelda is your launch RPG. I think...   Nov 30 2006, 05:16 PM
- - Lindt   Here is the biggest problem. And its why Im not b...   Nov 30 2006, 06:53 PM
- - 2bit   hmm... would you call zelda more of an adventure g...   Nov 30 2006, 08:30 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   Well, I'm not sure what, exactly, constitutes ...   Nov 30 2006, 08:36 PM
- - Hocus Pocus   I'm down home for the "classic" rpg ...   Dec 1 2006, 03:39 AM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Hocus Pocus) I could just buy a new comp sa...   Dec 1 2006, 03:44 AM
- - Hocus Pocus   yeow! 2 thousand bucks?!?! looks like ...   Dec 1 2006, 06:25 AM
- - hyzmarca   A GeForce 8800GTX with 768MB of GDDR3 with a PCI E...   Dec 1 2006, 10:03 AM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (hyzmarca) A GeForce 8800GTX with 768MB of G...   Dec 1 2006, 12:36 PM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) QUOTE But in the PC Gaming worl...   Dec 1 2006, 05:00 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Yes. Not, however, necessarily cheaper than card n...   Dec 1 2006, 05:11 PM
- - 2bit   Yes, i think Sony priced themselves out of 1st pla...   Dec 1 2006, 08:32 PM
- - JongWK   QUOTE (Hocus Pocus) I'm down home for the ...   Dec 2 2006, 01:29 AM
- - Hocus Pocus   i saw a special lastnight on spike tv. a gameshow ...   Dec 3 2006, 07:26 AM
- - Kagetenshi   FF4 and FF6 will probably end up on there, as Squa...   Dec 3 2006, 03:10 PM
- - JongWK   Here's a list of initial VR Console games.   Dec 4 2006, 02:16 PM
- - Eldritch   I currently have in my household (For my four kids...   Dec 6 2006, 02:18 AM
- - Hocus Pocus   my birthday is a few days before chirstmas so i th...   Dec 9 2006, 06:32 AM
- - Kagetenshi   Just get some real games for it. I've been doi...   Dec 9 2006, 06:36 AM
- - Hocus Pocus   it is a novel stragety admitedly. targeting the au...   Dec 9 2006, 08:05 AM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Hocus Pocus @ Dec 9 2006, 07:05 PM) it...   Dec 9 2006, 09:02 AM
- - Digital Heroin   QUOTE (Eldritch) I'm afraid Sony and MS has pr...   Dec 9 2006, 04:30 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Hocus Pocus) it is a novel stragety admited...   Dec 9 2006, 04:41 PM
- - Adam   Tangenting back to board games, they're actual...   Dec 9 2006, 10:43 PM
- - Kagetenshi   That is true, and a hopeful sign. It's entirel...   Dec 9 2006, 11:00 PM
- - Hocus Pocus   well over the weekend and today i went looking for...   Dec 12 2006, 04:13 AM
- - Hocus Pocus   no plans for shadowrun? i don't have the genes...   Dec 14 2006, 06:13 AM
- - Kagetenshi   What? ~J   Dec 14 2006, 12:55 PM
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- - Kagetenshi   No public plans. I don't know if it'd take...   Dec 14 2006, 03:50 PM
- - Hocus Pocus   QUOTE (Fortune)QUOTE (Hocus Pocus @ Dec 9 200...   Dec 15 2006, 06:20 PM
- - Hocus Pocus   yeah i got the snes version, but since i don't...   Dec 15 2006, 06:21 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Dec 9 2006, 10:41 AM) The...   Dec 15 2006, 07:39 PM
- - 2bit   QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Dec 9 2006, 11:41 AM) Plu...   Dec 15 2006, 07:48 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (blakkie) The top end resolution for the Wii...   Dec 15 2006, 08:10 PM
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