Ritual magic and astral barriers, Do they matter? |
Ritual magic and astral barriers, Do they matter? |
Jul 21 2007, 09:01 AM
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An interesting assertion has been made in the Dragon challenge thread:
(emphasis mine) In the example in question, a symbolic link is used, and the target is specifically enclosed within an astral barrier. (I'll not specify more, because details may turn out to be relevant.) Now while I found much in RAW to loosely support the very first sentence where barriers are not explicitly involved -- and much to contradict it where they are involved -- I found nothing to suggest that ritual magic suddenly renders astral barriers irrelevant. Here is what I did find:
The key to ritual magic seems to be that ritual magic requires some form of astral link to the target, be it material or sympathetic or symbolic -- and wards specifically disrupt astral links. The ability to cast a spell ritually does not require access to the metaplanes, only access to the astral -- and mana barriers block the astral. So I throw open the question to the Dumpshock community: are astral barriers and/or a completely surrounding background count relevant to ritual magic? Are different types of astral barriers less relevant than others? |
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Jul 23 2007, 10:42 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,677 Joined: 5-June 03 Member No.: 4,689 |
The reference is specifically to odinson's interpretation, and I was teasing a little. "Effect" usually refers to end-result.
Would it make a difference if some barriers completely surrounded the target, while others were just a Maginot wall? ~ spirit-parallel tangent: Btw I did read p.29 -- had it open beside me while I wrote that post. It doesn't answer the specific questions I asked. And the part of the p.178 sidebar that isn't an optional rule confuses it further: "home in astral space"? (But isn't its home supposed to be one of the metaplanes, and not astral space at all?) And consider p.179:
and then we have p.176:
... Ah, here it is:
So there is relevance to this thread, insofar as a spirit can't just metaplane-hop around a barrier without the barrier having first been breached either by conjurer or by spirit -- and it costs a service to do it. Edit: I think I broke the quote function :D |
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