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post Oct 25 2007, 01:01 AM
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so i was just talking to someone who meet and spoke with the designers for the new Shadowrun game. It seems that the reason that the game was built to be a shooter like Counter strike was because from what they saw or read, that is what shadowrun is all about; that is it's in spirit.

Do you agree. i don't, but i'm interested in what everyone has to say.
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shadowfire
post Oct 25 2007, 07:10 PM
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QUOTE (swirler)
QUOTE (Daddy's Little Ninja @ Oct 25 2007, 10:58 AM)
I do not agree and if that is what the designers think it is what the game is about, then the owners of the material should consider a different game design company because these guys were not listening and are producing a flop.

the producers were the owners
Micro$oft owns the videogame rights to BT and SR. They went ahead recently and dissolved the "company" and have of course kept the IPs.
most likely SR as far as videogames will sit and rot, since they have "proven it isnt viable in the videogame market" by making a game that:
1. Doesn't appeal to the actual SR fanbase (for the most part)
2. was sub par for the type of game it became(from most of what I've heard)
and
3. Was built as Vista only (w/o modifications) and cut out the smarter(IMHO) people who have stuck with XP vs Vista

true, microsuck doesn't care what they do to something as inspiring as shadowrun.. as long as they can strip it to it core and sell it to the mouth agape masses that believe that microsuck is God/ or some such nonsense....
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- shadowfire   Shadowrun shooter   Oct 25 2007, 01:01 AM
- - Kagetenshi   I would say that this confirms previous estimation...   Oct 25 2007, 01:11 AM
- - hyzmarca   Shadowrun is about having pieces of your soul cut ...   Oct 25 2007, 01:54 AM
- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (shadowfire @ Oct 25 2007, 01:01 AM)Do ...   Oct 25 2007, 02:15 AM
- - Adarael   If you're looking for a game that is closest t...   Oct 25 2007, 02:28 AM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (KarmaInferno) In a shadowrun, a firefight u...   Oct 25 2007, 02:37 AM
- - shadowfire   i just don't like the assumption that shot out...   Oct 25 2007, 04:11 AM
- - Kagetenshi   Yeah, there's that, too. Really, he should ha...   Oct 25 2007, 04:21 AM
- - shadowfire   true true   Oct 25 2007, 04:32 AM
- - Narse   Hmmm.... I actually agree to a certain extent. Whe...   Oct 25 2007, 05:07 AM
- - Kagetenshi   The relationship between shadowruns and stealth is...   Oct 25 2007, 05:11 AM
- - Ryu   Thats more to the point than "shot fired = ru...   Oct 25 2007, 10:17 AM
- - Stahlseele   worst part about this whole affair is the fact, th...   Oct 25 2007, 12:38 PM
- - shadowfire   QUOTE (Stahlseele) worst part about this whole aff...   Oct 25 2007, 02:30 PM
- - Fortune   I wouldn't worry. It is quite an overstatement...   Oct 25 2007, 02:45 PM
- - Kagetenshi   The question is where Alpha Stadium is, and what s...   Oct 25 2007, 03:39 PM
- - Telion   the game itself failed in a number of ways. incom...   Oct 25 2007, 03:50 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Oh yeah, it'd be difficult but I do think it...   Oct 25 2007, 03:55 PM
- - Daddy's Little Ninja   I do not agree and if that is what the designers t...   Oct 25 2007, 03:58 PM
- - Blade   Shadowrun FPS a la CS could make a great... mod. C...   Oct 25 2007, 03:59 PM
- - swirler   QUOTE (hyzmarca) Shadowrun is about having pieces ...   Oct 25 2007, 04:04 PM
- - swirler   QUOTE (Daddy's Little Ninja @ Oct 25 2007...   Oct 25 2007, 04:10 PM
- - Kagetenshi   And how about the smarter (IMNSHO) people who have...   Oct 25 2007, 04:24 PM
- - swirler   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) And how about the smarter (IMNS...   Oct 25 2007, 05:52 PM
- - Yoan   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) Yeah, there's that, too. R...   Oct 25 2007, 06:57 PM
- - shadowfire   QUOTE (swirler) QUOTE (Daddy's Little Ninja ...   Oct 25 2007, 07:10 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Yoan) For those of us not in the know, care...   Oct 25 2007, 09:05 PM
- - Stahlseele   QUOTE (shadowfire) QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Oct 25...   Oct 25 2007, 09:36 PM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Stahlseele) . . now that they god a cease a...   Oct 25 2007, 10:03 PM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Fortune) QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Oct 26 20...   Oct 25 2007, 10:07 PM
- - Fortune   The same can be said for quite a few laws on the b...   Oct 25 2007, 10:19 PM
- - Stahlseele   actually they were hoping to present microsoft wit...   Oct 25 2007, 10:22 PM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Oct 26 2007, 08:22 AM) ac...   Oct 25 2007, 10:29 PM
- - Lagomorph   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Oct 25 2007, 09:36 PM) QU...   Oct 25 2007, 11:32 PM
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- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (hyzmarca) a natural right. Please enume...   Oct 26 2007, 12:05 AM
- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Oct 25 2007, 10:07 PM) Exce...   Oct 26 2007, 05:29 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Defend your assertion that copying is theft. ~J   Oct 26 2007, 05:37 PM
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- - mfb   i'm not in 100% agreement that 'stealing...   Oct 26 2007, 06:05 PM
- - FrankTrollman   QUOTE (KarmaInferno) To do that, one must assume t...   Oct 26 2007, 06:12 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (KarmaInferno) To do that, one must assume t...   Oct 26 2007, 06:18 PM
- - mfb   i don't see how i've introduced that assum...   Oct 26 2007, 06:23 PM
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- - mfb   QUOTE (Kagetenshi)If the market does not see value...   Oct 26 2007, 06:45 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (mfb @ Oct 26 2007, 01:45 PM) that...   Oct 26 2007, 06:57 PM
- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE Why? Unless I missed something, you're p...   Oct 26 2007, 06:59 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Why? I've got a dustbin that I bought next to ...   Oct 26 2007, 07:05 PM
- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) The market does not have to tre...   Oct 26 2007, 07:06 PM
- - mfb   QUOTE (Kagetenshi)And how does that not happen? So...   Oct 26 2007, 07:08 PM
- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Oct 26 2007, 07:05 PM) Wh...   Oct 26 2007, 07:10 PM
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- - Wounded Ronin   QUOTE (Narse) Kagetenshi, I think you'd help e...   Oct 27 2007, 02:52 AM
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- - Narse   QUOTE (hyzmarca) [...] Natural rights are those th...   Oct 28 2007, 03:20 AM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Narse) QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Oct 26 2007, ...   Oct 28 2007, 04:40 AM
- - FrankTrollman   QUOTE There exists an undeniable natural right to ...   Oct 28 2007, 08:47 AM
- - Narse   QUOTE (hyzmarca) [...] If you kill someone, rape h...   Oct 29 2007, 03:54 AM
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