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DocTaotsu
post Apr 23 2008, 06:30 AM
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I have a player who is keen on learning the Invoking metamagic, he envisions himself riding around on the back of a Greater Guardian spirit who he calls "Haggis". While I hate stomping on players for their love of twinkies I've been getting the vibe that Invocation might be a big bag of game breaking badness. So I ask this:

1. Has anyone actually used Invocation in a game yet?

2. What were the results?

3. If there is stupid power that comes out of this, how do you limit it?

4. Roleplaying guidance so I can make this more than him rolling dice and getting a bigger better spirit for me to hit with mana static. I mean uhm.. erm...
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Tarantula
post Apr 23 2008, 02:36 PM
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The balance? The drain.

Take a force 6 spirit for example. Regular summoning is average of 2 hits, for 4S drain for them to resist. Not too horrible. Next, they go to invoke (done as part of binding) this is against Forcex2, so 12 dice for this one. Average 4 hits. This would be 8S, except that because it is an invoked spirit, it increases by 50%. So, 12S. (And this assumes the mage gets at least 6 hits, for 2 net hits, (since with only 1 hit, the invoking fails).

And, to get a great form power out of it, they would need 9 hits (for 5 net hits). Its hard to succeed with high force spirits.
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- DocTaotsu   Invoking   Apr 23 2008, 06:30 AM
- - deek   The mage in my group has Invoking. He has yet to ...   Apr 23 2008, 01:33 PM
- - cryptoknight   I've dealt with and run players against great ...   Apr 23 2008, 02:23 PM
|- - Tarantula   QUOTE (cryptoknight @ Apr 23 2008, 08:23 ...   Apr 23 2008, 03:52 PM
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|- - Dashifen   QUOTE (cryptoknight @ Apr 23 2008, 09:23 ...   Apr 25 2008, 03:48 PM
|- - Tarantula   QUOTE (Dashifen @ Apr 25 2008, 08:48 AM) ...   Apr 25 2008, 03:56 PM
- - Tarantula   The balance? The drain. Take a force 6 spirit fo...   Apr 23 2008, 02:36 PM
- - Stahlseele   ah yes, remember the good old times of SR3 Great F...   Apr 23 2008, 02:40 PM
- - IC-Pick   My Magician has Invoking. I can say that it does ...   Apr 23 2008, 03:41 PM
- - DTFarstar   If I recall correctly, sans books at the moment as...   Apr 23 2008, 04:09 PM
- - Tarantula   You're right. I missed that the force of the ...   Apr 23 2008, 04:16 PM
- - DTFarstar   Not sure what PITA stands for, but yeah, like I sa...   Apr 23 2008, 04:48 PM
- - Stahlseele   PITA = Pain In The Ass   Apr 23 2008, 04:50 PM
- - Stahlseele   invoke plant spirit with safe level using edge and...   Apr 23 2008, 05:07 PM
|- - Rasumichin   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Apr 23 2008, 05:07 PM...   Apr 24 2008, 07:03 PM
- - WeaverMount   While I don't think things would get pun-pun s...   Apr 23 2008, 09:44 PM
|- - Fortune   QUOTE (WeaverMount @ Apr 24 2008, 07:44 A...   Apr 23 2008, 10:22 PM
- - WeaverMount   Cool. One hole patched. Still broken. I hope they ...   Apr 23 2008, 10:34 PM
- - Fortune   Endowment (and a couple of other things) will also...   Apr 23 2008, 10:46 PM
- - Stahlseele   the worst part about endowment is females with tha...   Apr 24 2008, 10:04 AM
- - Tarantula   What'd work better, is invoking task spirits, ...   Apr 24 2008, 07:26 PM
- - Stahlseele   LOS Regeneration would be pretty nifty as a group-...   Apr 25 2008, 03:49 PM


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