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Xykal
post Sep 7 2008, 02:40 AM
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Given the amount of character creation goodness in Runner's Companion, I was kinda surprised to not see a free sprite pc race option in Unwired. Anyone put together any rules yet for PC free sprites?

And... I'm new here so please be nice. =) I checked search and didn't see anything.

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post Sep 9 2008, 04:10 AM
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Free Sprites are quite different from Artificial Intelligences - that is why they have two separate sections in Unwired. This is also the reason simply replacing Rating with Resonance & Program with Complex Form will not work.

The reason there are not rules for Free Sprites, as previously pointed out, is probably due to how they increase their abilities - they do not function well in a Karma advancement system because they do not use Karma.
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post Sep 9 2008, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Sep 8 2008, 11:10 PM) *
The reason there are not rules for Free Sprites, as previously pointed out, is probably due to how they increase their abilities - they do not function well in a Karma advancement system because they do not use Karma.

Neither do Artificial Intelligences... unless they're player characters.

What? You think that if they did include rules for Free Sprites they'd be the only characters in the entire game that didn't rely on Karma to advance? Absorbing sprites or whatever else would simply be the flavor description of how they're obtaining and improving themselves with Karma. Hell, their sleep cycle would probably be assumed to be doing that very thing.

But, yeah, fuck that. They have their own chapter in Unwired, so that's completely relevant to how they should be treated as a PC! I mean, it's not like Free Spirits are completely different as a PC over an NPC either, particularly how they obtain and advance through the use of Karma. Best to just plug one's ears and hum loudly until some convoluted set of house rules show up that make little sense, are overcomplicated, and utterly unbalanced (either overpowered or grossly underpowered) as most house rules created in these situations are wont to be.
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post Sep 9 2008, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Sep 9 2008, 08:51 AM) *
Neither do Artificial Intelligences... unless they're player characters.

What? You think that if they did include rules for Free Sprites they'd be the only characters in the entire game that didn't rely on Karma to advance? Absorbing sprites or whatever else would simply be the flavor description of how they're obtaining and improving themselves with Karma. Hell, their sleep cycle would probably be assumed to be doing that very thing.

But, yeah, fuck that. They have their own chapter in Unwired, so that's completely relevant to how they should be treated as a PC! I mean, it's not like Free Spirits are completely different as a PC over an NPC either, particularly how they obtain and advance through the use of Karma. Best to just plug one's ears and hum loudly until some convoluted set of house rules show up that make little sense, are overcomplicated, and utterly unbalanced (either overpowered or grossly underpowered) as most house rules created in these situations are wont to be.


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post Sep 10 2008, 08:22 AM
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QUOTE (Xykal @ Sep 10 2008, 09:36 AM) *
I fully believe you needed more hugs as a child. You may be right, but your bedside manner sucks.


I am of two minds about Dr. F. I find myself agreeing with the content of every one of his posts, but not the manner in which they are delivered. It's like he's my evil twin or something. >.>
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- Xykal   Free Sprite PCs..?   Sep 7 2008, 02:40 AM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   Pretty sure Artificial Intelligence covers them. ...   Sep 7 2008, 03:35 AM
- - Xykal   They're considerably different. Sprite powers...   Sep 7 2008, 03:40 AM
|- - Dr. Funkenstein   So you don't want to use them because they...   Sep 7 2008, 03:46 AM
- - Xykal   I can see where my edit would give you that impres...   Sep 7 2008, 04:00 AM
- - HappyDaze   AIs can't use Resonance while Spites are basic...   Sep 7 2008, 04:17 AM
|- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE (HappyDaze @ Sep 6 2008, 10:17 PM) ...   Sep 7 2008, 09:26 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Sep 7 2008, 05:2...   Sep 7 2008, 01:43 PM
||- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE (toturi @ Sep 7 2008, 08:43 AM) Not...   Sep 7 2008, 04:36 PM
|- - Platinum Dragon   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Sep 7 2008, 07:2...   Sep 9 2008, 03:51 AM
- - Xykal   So far I'm thinking this: 250 bps (taken stra...   Sep 7 2008, 04:44 AM
- - GreyBrother   AFAIK Free Sprites were proposed to get a writeup ...   Sep 7 2008, 09:21 AM
- - GreyBrother   "That won't work, Captain. The ship cant ...   Sep 7 2008, 01:15 PM
- - Aaron   What about the part where free sprites don't g...   Sep 7 2008, 03:08 PM
- - Xykal   If anyone is interested, here's the "Hous...   Sep 7 2008, 03:18 PM
- - Jaid   i would say the main problem with sprites as chara...   Sep 7 2008, 07:26 PM
- - Dumori   So can asking for karma as a free spirit... you...   Sep 7 2008, 09:26 PM
- - Jaid   karma has quantifiable boundaries. you can't j...   Sep 8 2008, 03:07 AM
- - Dumori   True then they would need either different rules (...   Sep 8 2008, 08:03 AM
- - HappyDaze   QUOTE True then they would need either different r...   Sep 8 2008, 11:47 AM
|- - Dumori   QUOTE (HappyDaze @ Sep 8 2008, 12:47 PM) ...   Sep 8 2008, 01:10 PM
- - Xykal   For simplicity's sake I think I'll just us...   Sep 8 2008, 03:28 PM
- - HappyDaze   QUOTE They follow the same basic princeables thoug...   Sep 8 2008, 04:05 PM
- - Muspellsheimr   Free Sprites are quite different from Artificial I...   Sep 9 2008, 04:10 AM
- - Jaid   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Sep 8 2008, 11:10 ...   Sep 9 2008, 04:44 PM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Sep 8 2008, 11:10 ...   Sep 9 2008, 04:51 PM
- - Xykal   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Sep 9 2008, 08:5...   Sep 9 2008, 11:36 PM
- - Platinum Dragon   QUOTE (Xykal @ Sep 10 2008, 09:36 AM) I f...   Sep 10 2008, 08:22 AM


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