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silva
post May 31 2009, 06:19 PM
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Met recently the european editions of these games and... wow.. the art, at least the cover's , are really cool, definitely more cool than the original amercian counterpart.

And I think they (europeans) got a more serious tone in their art, that I like. While original americans got a more catoony tone, thats present most of the time, even if only in spirit. See for yourself...

Shadowrun: http://www.pegasus.de/1467.html#c1434

By the way, the Unknown Armies line is the same case:
http://www.7emecercle.com/7cv2fr/jdr/ua/ua.html

What you guys think?
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Heath Robinson
post May 31 2009, 07:07 PM
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Actually, I prefer the US covers. Mostly.

Augmentation? I hate vats with a passion. They're dumb and inefficient in almost every case where a human is involved. The artist could at least have stolen the rigs that get used in Ghost in the Shell SAC instead. Vats, especially the kind in this cover, are everything that is wrong with SciFi.

Unwired? Okay, so this might be an exception. I mean, I don't know why the Hacker's got his shirt off, or why he's got that kind of physique when his job is essentially sedantary, but the art is good and the high contrast environment is nice. The AR is as cool as the stuff on the cover of the US version, but it's far enough away that you don't get any wallbanger effect off the UI. So, yeah. Good going. One of four.

Arsenal? OH GOD WHO THE HELL DREW THAT TRAVESTY ON THE COVER OF THE GERMAN EDITION? Seriously, is this what German people imagine when they try to describe a Street Sam? So we've got an 80's military guy with his hair spiked up in a static pose (with his guns pointing at the ceiling!) standing in front of two bits of geometric art, or something. Those things aren't Drones. Shut up. The man is massively overloaded, too. Imagine how much weight that all is.

Street Magic? The new German cover makes the mage look mildly constipated and retarded. It looks like an amateur 3D render and doesn't show us what the guy is looking at (and he doesn't look scared, so there's really no need to not show it). Expressing head syndrome I can actually deal with (I watch anime, after all), but this just looks bad.


If the cover tries to present itself as an in-universe scene then I prefer it depict events that might actually occur in game (ie people look to be in motion, and aren't posing in an apparent combat situation). SotA '63 has a great cover. Shockwaves (the English PDF I've got) has a cover that just makes me look at it over and over. All of the Shadows of line are good. Survival of the Fittest and Threats 1 are good. Threats 2 manages to put together a multiple scenes all of which have sufficient action that it all works.

Many people these days have watched the higher budget anime series or read well-drawn comics and know what good, fluid drawn action scenes look like. Poseritis is not enough any more.
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- silva   Art in european Shadowrun line   May 31 2009, 06:19 PM
- - Heath Robinson   Actually, I prefer the US covers. Mostly. Augmen...   May 31 2009, 07:07 PM
|- - GreyBrother   QUOTE (Heath Robinson @ May 31 2009, 09:0...   May 31 2009, 07:21 PM
|- - SleepIncarnate   QUOTE (Heath Robinson @ May 31 2009, 02:0...   Sep 21 2010, 11:21 AM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Heath Robinson @ May 31 2009, 01:0...   Sep 21 2010, 12:32 PM
|- - Smokeskin   QUOTE (Heath Robinson @ May 31 2009, 09:0...   Sep 21 2010, 12:43 PM
- - Casper   Links? I am lazy.   May 31 2009, 07:33 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Casper @ May 31 2009, 10:33 PM) Li...   May 31 2009, 07:42 PM
- - Blade   The French line has the exact same art as the Engl...   May 31 2009, 11:36 PM
- - Maelstrome   i actually prefer the european covers myself.   Jun 1 2009, 12:53 AM
- - Digital Heroin   Honestly, none of the covers in either line seem e...   Jun 1 2009, 01:02 AM
- - martindv   Their Emergence cover is much better than ours.   Jun 1 2009, 02:30 AM
|- - Malicant   QUOTE (martindv @ Jun 1 2009, 04:30 AM) T...   Jun 2 2009, 01:41 AM
- - Roy Fokker   the euro art is much better IMO. i'm not a fa...   Jun 1 2009, 05:32 AM
- - kzt   Yup. I've seen oodles of worse 3d artwork tha...   Jun 1 2009, 05:52 AM
- - Psikerlord   I agree with DH that none of the art covers have b...   Jun 1 2009, 11:14 AM
- - Cardul   Why do the European books have different cover art...   Jun 1 2009, 11:39 AM
|- - MYST1C   QUOTE (Cardul @ Jun 1 2009, 01:39 PM) Why...   Jun 1 2009, 12:35 PM
|- - codemonkey_uk   QUOTE (Cardul @ Jun 1 2009, 12:39 PM) But...   Sep 21 2010, 11:25 AM
- - Medicineman   I Think The Guys from Pegasus tried a streamlined ...   Jun 2 2009, 10:01 AM
- - raben-aas   Yep, that is how I read and understand it, too: th...   Sep 21 2010, 09:50 AM
|- - cndblank   I have to agree. Fraking good!!! QUO...   Sep 21 2010, 01:38 PM
- - Thanee   That guy is really good, indeed. I have seen tha...   Sep 21 2010, 10:36 AM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Thanee @ Sep 21 2010, 12:36 PM) Th...   Sep 22 2010, 09:57 AM
- - Stahlseele   re-wired looks very much like one of the covers of...   Sep 21 2010, 10:47 AM
|- - Thanee   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Sep 21 2010, 12:47 PM...   Sep 21 2010, 12:38 PM
|- - Stahlseele   QUOTE (Thanee @ Sep 21 2010, 02:38 PM) We...   Sep 21 2010, 01:22 PM
- - raben-aas   It possibly is.   Sep 21 2010, 11:00 AM
- - ravensmuse   Hm. Considering I stole one of the images (the one...   Sep 21 2010, 04:54 PM
- - Stahlseele   Wasn't Attitude supposed to be somewhere betwe...   Sep 21 2010, 04:58 PM
- - raben-aas   Ravensmuse is actually totally correct (people wit...   Sep 21 2010, 06:28 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (raben-aas @ Sep 21 2010, 12:2...   Sep 21 2010, 07:49 PM
|- - ravensmuse   QUOTE (raben-aas @ Sep 21 2010, 02:2...   Sep 21 2010, 08:11 PM
- - raben-aas   Handcuffs are "bound" to become a major ...   Sep 21 2010, 08:05 PM
- - Stahlseele   i like the pictures too aas . . as for you muse ....   Sep 21 2010, 08:23 PM
- - ravensmuse   Tsukiyaki Western Django. Starring Japanese folk t...   Sep 21 2010, 08:47 PM
- - Stahlseele   i just need my next dose of j-trash after having j...   Sep 21 2010, 08:52 PM
- - Brett   What on Earth is Vats anyways?   Sep 21 2010, 09:32 PM
- - ravensmuse   Vats? Good for what ails ya?   Sep 21 2010, 09:37 PM
- - Stahlseele   Vaultec advanced targeting system. It's Vats ...   Sep 21 2010, 09:51 PM
|- - jakephillips   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Sep 21 2010, 04:51 PM...   Sep 22 2010, 12:30 AM
- - Stahlseele   VATS is more like a mix between smartlink2, reflex...   Sep 22 2010, 01:09 AM
- - CanRay   And, pretty soon, chips for melee combat!   Sep 22 2010, 01:27 AM
- - Stahlseele   Nah chips are there for vehicle chase on the inter...   Sep 22 2010, 09:33 AM
- - raben-aas   Here's an interview with him BTW. And yes, he ...   Sep 22 2010, 11:18 AM
- - ravensmuse   Man, he's done some Iron Kingdoms work? Kick a...   Sep 22 2010, 04:23 PM
- - Bull   I will say, Raben-AAS is doing some Missions Art f...   Sep 22 2010, 10:19 PM
- - Angelone   I like the american art, some of the european is g...   Sep 23 2010, 04:57 PM
- - kzt   Arsenal just screams "I have no talent!...   Sep 23 2010, 06:16 PM
- - Machiavelli   AND he is a TROLL...we should not forget that.^^   Sep 24 2010, 06:02 PM
- - Neurosis   Raben your art is fucking AMAZING.   Sep 24 2010, 06:16 PM
- - raben-aas   Thanks! I do my best, and try to improve.   Sep 25 2010, 11:36 AM


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