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Degausser
post Sep 18 2009, 12:34 AM
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Okay, so the Base book has indicates that you should be tag-erasing yourself all the time. Especially before a run. Get rid of those RFIDs telling every node that pings them about how awesome "Ares Super Breakfast Bars™" are. But, uhhh . . .

IS there a piece of equipment called a "Tag Eraser" in the BBB for 4th ed (I don't play 4a, some stuff I don't like.) I know I could GM caveat and say that it costs X (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) but I wanna know if there are actual rules for it.
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Ravor
post Sep 22 2009, 01:23 AM
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Well, part of the problem that I have is that it's "all or nothing", I wouldn't have a problem if your easer had to roll in order to zap the tags, and security tags were slightly harder to get, but then again I'd also increase the range and give a bonus if the easer was touching the tag...
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- Degausser   Tag eraser   Sep 18 2009, 12:34 AM
- - CanadianWolverine   Could have sworn I came along one in the Gear sect...   Sep 18 2009, 01:01 AM
- - Dragnar   It's in the BBB, under "Communications...   Sep 18 2009, 01:10 AM
- - Degausser   As for why I don't use 4a, some of it is the c...   Sep 18 2009, 01:19 AM
- - Glyph   They made that ill-conceived monstrosity an ...   Sep 18 2009, 01:54 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Glyph @ Sep 17 2009, 06:54 PM) The...   Sep 18 2009, 02:52 AM
|- - Muspellsheimr   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Sep 17 2009, 07...   Sep 19 2009, 11:34 PM
|- - CanadianWolverine   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Sep 19 2009, 04:34...   Sep 20 2009, 12:05 AM
- - Glyph   Karmagen wasn't nerfed. It was put into limbo...   Sep 18 2009, 03:52 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Glyph @ Sep 17 2009, 09:52 PM) Kar...   Sep 19 2009, 06:11 PM
|- - Glyph   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Sep 19 2009, 11...   Sep 19 2009, 08:15 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Glyph @ Sep 19 2009, 01:15 PM) It...   Sep 20 2009, 05:07 PM
- - TheOOB   Karma gen is fine except that now it is very harsh...   Sep 18 2009, 04:59 AM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (TheOOB @ Sep 18 2009, 12:59 AM) Ka...   Sep 18 2009, 05:34 AM
|- - McAllister   QUOTE (Jaid @ Sep 18 2009, 01:34 AM) so y...   Sep 18 2009, 07:04 AM
|- - X-Kalibur   QUOTE (McAllister @ Sep 18 2009, 03:04 AM...   Sep 18 2009, 07:20 AM
- - Glyph   Yeah, I guess it's a good thing that hardly an...   Sep 18 2009, 05:01 AM
- - Starmage21   the rule in regular SR4 for tag erasers was hard a...   Sep 18 2009, 01:38 PM
- - ZeroPoint   This is not a conversation on BP vs Karmagen. If y...   Sep 19 2009, 07:42 PM
|- - Degausser   QUOTE (ZeroPoint @ Sep 19 2009, 03:42 PM)...   Sep 19 2009, 07:58 PM
|- - Khyron   QUOTE (Degausser @ Sep 19 2009, 03:58 PM)...   Sep 19 2009, 08:25 PM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (Degausser @ Sep 19 2009, 02:58 PM)...   Sep 19 2009, 09:52 PM
|- - MusicMan   QUOTE (Jaid @ Sep 19 2009, 04:52 PM) sure...   Sep 19 2009, 11:17 PM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (MusicMan @ Sep 19 2009, 07:17 PM) ...   Sep 19 2009, 11:31 PM
- - X-Kalibur   Or, you know, tag erase your candy bars BEFORE you...   Sep 19 2009, 10:06 PM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (X-Kalibur @ Sep 19 2009, 05:0...   Sep 19 2009, 10:59 PM
|- - Degausser   QUOTE (X-Kalibur @ Sep 19 2009, 06:0...   Sep 20 2009, 04:40 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Degausser @ Sep 19 2009, 09:40 PM)...   Sep 20 2009, 05:11 PM
- - Tachi   Fuck the cake... The cake is a lie... Besides, ev...   Sep 20 2009, 03:11 AM
- - ZeroPoint   I personally find the idea of RFIDs in food quite ...   Sep 20 2009, 05:09 AM
- - Glyph   I agree with you there. I can see it on the outsi...   Sep 20 2009, 05:24 AM
|- - CanadianWolverine   QUOTE (Glyph @ Sep 19 2009, 10:24 PM) I a...   Sep 20 2009, 05:30 AM
|- - Tachi   QUOTE (CanadianWolverine @ Sep 20 2009, 12...   Sep 20 2009, 06:04 AM
- - Ravor   Personally I figure that the corps simply don...   Sep 20 2009, 06:31 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Ravor @ Sep 19 2009, 11:31 PM) Per...   Sep 20 2009, 05:13 PM
|- - Glyph   QUOTE (Ravor @ Sep 19 2009, 10:31 PM) Per...   Sep 20 2009, 07:50 PM
|- - PirateChef   QUOTE (Glyph @ Sep 20 2009, 02:50 PM) Bac...   Sep 21 2009, 10:02 PM
- - Khyron   The question is does the corp higherups even know ...   Sep 20 2009, 08:29 PM
- - Glyph   Bureaucracy, insular institutions that don't s...   Sep 20 2009, 09:33 PM
- - kanislatrans   I agree, putting rfid tags in food would be as sil...   Sep 20 2009, 11:56 PM
- - ZeroPoint   Eh, this is the way I think about it. Some corp ge...   Sep 21 2009, 01:50 AM
- - Degausser   so there is no way to erase tags besides the 1CM c...   Sep 21 2009, 10:50 PM
|- - Brazilian_Shinobi   QUOTE (Degausser @ Sep 21 2009, 07:50 PM)...   Sep 22 2009, 12:53 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ Sep 21 2009, 06...   Sep 22 2009, 01:03 AM
- - kanislatrans   I don't recall where RFID tags are toxic (alth...   Sep 21 2009, 11:28 PM
- - Ravor   Personally because I don't think it makes sens...   Sep 22 2009, 01:05 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Ravor @ Sep 21 2009, 07:05 PM) Per...   Sep 22 2009, 01:09 AM
|- - kanislatrans   QUOTE (Ravor @ Sep 21 2009, 09:05 PM) Per...   Sep 23 2009, 12:41 AM
- - Ravor   On "real" electronics sure, but I have a...   Sep 22 2009, 01:16 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Ravor @ Sep 21 2009, 07:16 PM) On ...   Sep 22 2009, 01:18 AM
- - Ravor   Well, part of the problem that I have is that it...   Sep 22 2009, 01:23 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Ravor @ Sep 21 2009, 06:23 PM) Wel...   Sep 23 2009, 12:30 AM
- - Karoline   I'm sure better tag erasers exist, I mean the ...   Sep 23 2009, 01:00 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Karoline @ Sep 22 2009, 06:00 PM) ...   Sep 23 2009, 03:10 AM
- - Ravor   Aye, however you then have to explain why this ...   Sep 24 2009, 03:35 PM


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