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Grand Master of Run-Fu ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,840 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 178 ![]() |
OK, so the last thread got closed, but there's still more going on. Word is that the most recent documents were going to court on May 27. Does anyonehave any information on this?
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 38 Joined: 22-March 10 Member No.: 18,337 ![]() |
while I'm loathe to admit it - I do like lurking in Frank's forum, and between the vitriol, there's often some interesting truths to be found.
for example: http://tgdmb.com/viewtopic.php?p=149765#149765 now, while I have no idea who Laughing man is - nor do I particularly care - Sandstorm Productions LLC does indeed exist, and is indeed populated by few familiar names. In fact, Ergo and Balance of Power (which were both upcoming CGL games) designers the Brothers Knudson are both listed in "About Us" section - not sure if that means Closet Nerd Games has become Sandstorm, or its a license situation. And while I don't particularly care for his/her style of presentation - it does beg the question how much is accurate. I certainly hope not a lot, because I've always found DSG to be a stand up guy. But so is Randall (until you've worked with him, you simply can't have any idea how much of his heart, soul and body Randall puts into CGL), and I'm being asked to believe from other quarters that he's in on the whole Loren thing. (which I sincerely doubt) food for thought anyway, and answers Augmentin's question about "freelancer conspiracy" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) edit: got Closet Nerd/Closed Mind mixed up (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 38 Joined: 19-May 10 Member No.: 18,593 ![]() |
now, while I have no idea who Laughing man is - nor do I particularly care - Sandstorm Productions LLC does indeed exist, and is indeed populated by few familiar names. In fact, Ergo and Balance of Power (which were both upcoming CGL games) designers the Brothers Knudson are both listed in "About Us" section - not sure if that means Closet Nerd Games has become Sandstorm, or its a license situation. Thank you for the link. I tried to google it but my search skills weren't up to snuff. I am surprised that more is not being made of this. If Sandstorm is one of the companies competing for the licenses, then this revelation casts everything in a new light. For one thing, it would cast a great deal of suspicion on Jennifer Harding's claims. No longer would she just be a disgruntled employee, but rather a self-interested player. It also would suggest that Stansel-Garner's actions (like taking all of CGL's financial records with him) were motivated by more than spite. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 21-July 05 From: Seattle Member No.: 7,508 ![]() |
It also would suggest that Stansel-Garner's actions (like taking all of CGL's financial records with him) were motivated by more than spite. May I state for the record that David Stansel did not remove or destroy any of CGL's financial records. Copies of all electronic records/books were turned over to CGL's CPA prior to my departure (which was after David left), were turned over to the new bookkeeper, were turned over to numerous owners, and were left on a secure backup system to which the owners had access. All physical files were left in large locked filing cabinets, and the locks were changed after my departure so that only Randall Bills and the new bookkeeper had keys. David did not take any physical files from those cabinets. Prior to my arrival and employment to reconstruct CGL's books, David did not have access to financial records or documents. Only Loren Coleman had access to those. David was copied on invoices sent electronically - but only copied on them. The originals went elsewhere. David kept a backup copy of those that he was cc'd on, but, let's be honest here, if the previous bookkeeper/Loren Coleman was deleting those instead of using proper document storage, is that David's fault? Especially when he was specifically not told or informed of how the books were kept? (Mind you, since David's departure, no one from CGL has requested any copies of back up documents that CGL may have destroyed... from either David or myself...) As for myself, I left for the reasons I stated - I was told by Loren Coleman to hide foreign royalties from Topps. I was told by Randall that if I could not work with Loren, I should leave. I had numerous job interviews prior to accepting a position with Sandstorm, fyi, and chose to work with Sandstorm because I believed in the vision and the sound business plan that was presented to me. I also did not have any information on Sandstorm, nor had I been told it was forming, when I left CGL. I was only approached well after my last day at CGL. While I don't believe this really needs to be stated, having my ethics attacked on these forums makes me want to clarify the timeline that was involved. Sandstorm's mission statement, from the time it was formed (which was well before I was approached or aware it was forming), was to operate with the highest level of ethics. |
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 38 Joined: 19-May 10 Member No.: 18,593 ![]() |
having my ethics attacked on these forums makes me want to clarify the timeline that was involved. Sandstorm's mission statement, from the time it was formed (which was well before I was approached or aware it was forming), was to operate with the highest level of ethics. Not questioning your ethics, just wondering about your interests. Is Sandstorm bidding for either or both the Shadowrun and Battletech licenses from Topps? |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 21-July 05 From: Seattle Member No.: 7,508 ![]() |
Not questioning your ethics, just wondering about your interests. Is Sandstorm bidding for either or both the Shadowrun and Battletech licenses from Topps? Actually, you are questioning my ethics. To whit, from your post (or someone who has the same alias as you): "It certainly dovetails with suspicions that I have had for a long time now, namely that the people calling for Truth and Justice in this mess are actually using that as a cover to pursue their own self-interests. At the very least, it makes one very suspicious of Jennifer Harding's oft-cited claims of malfeasance, beyond the usual "axe-grinding" argument. It also suggests that Stanel-Garner taking all of CGL's financial info with him on his computer was motivated by more than just spite." So, again, for the record - David didn't take all of CGL's financial info with him on his computer. At the time I left CGL, I had not heard of, nor been approached by, Sandstorm in regards to joining a new company. At the time I left CGL, my "self-interest" was to find a position with a company that I could trust, that would pay the bills and give me some amount of personal fulfillment in my career choice. |
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