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[Lachdanan]

Really what are they, physically. I'm having a hard time conceptualizing what they are. Are they like an RFID'd card? Something on your Comlink? Something implanted in to you? Does the SIN database contain fingerprints? DNA? Retinal Scans? Pictures?

I know they can be scanned, but can you ever have it not on you?

When you have a fake one have you stolen someone's identity either living or dead? Or did someone along the path have a government contact who created a person who doesn't really exist?

[Doc Chase]

Oh? By your logic than a teenager with a minimal fake ID wouldn't be able to buy beer.

You and I clearly know that's not the case. If I steal Joe McPatsy's license - SIN number - and tweak the biometrics - or physical statistics - to match my own, a policeman's query of 'do you have a SIN?' is met. I am Joe McPatsy, for all intents and purposes. A rating 1 SIN is a fake ID. It has my picture, my stats, but not my birthdate, name or state of birth, quite likely. Do I have it? Yes. It's there. If the cop doesn't trust it, he'll run it. If I look trustworthy, then chances are he's going to focus on someone else who doesn't.

If he's pulled me over because I'm speeding, he's likely to verify. However, he has no cause to verify my identification if I am simply trying to shop in a mall. He has no cause to pull me aside and run my ID because I'm doing nothing visibly wrong. I am there with thousands of other people - he has to look for people acting erratically, like the emo kids in the arcade, the little terrors with their uncaring parents trying to destroy the Gymboree, and the twitchy guy in the trenchcoat flashing it open at random passers-by.

This seems to be the source of contention. Do they need to verify the SIN? Just because it is there does not mean it automatically needs to be verified.

[Mesh]

Oh? By your logic than a teenager with a minimal fake ID wouldn't be able to buy beer.

Your mistake is to equate the "fake ID" of today with the commlink you're carrying. Editing, creating a fake driver's license is the equivalent of hacking the identity/verification source in the above example NOT of editing your own commlink. Your commlink is not the verification source. It's the broadcast source so if you want to put it into today's example: It's your mouth saying you're so-and-so.

Mesh