 Essence loss and magic attribute at Char Gen.. |
 Oct 11 2005, 05:19 PM
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Is the essence loss applied _after_ you have bought the magic attribute or before ?
ie do you loose 10 bp thanks to the essence loss.. ie max at 5, bought 5 but it goes down to 4.. OR Just reduces your maximum at chargen, nothing else happens ? Both have their merits.. but Im leaning towards the first example.. |
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Nkari Essence loss and magic attribute at Char Gen.. Oct 11 2005, 05:19 PM
Superbum It reduces whatever you bought it up to, as in it ... Oct 11 2005, 05:24 PM calypso You lose some of the magic you bought. So, if you... Oct 11 2005, 05:27 PM Nkari yeah.. after some discussion thats the conclusion... Oct 11 2005, 05:30 PM blakkie QUOTE (Superbum) It reduces whatever you bought it... Oct 11 2005, 05:42 PM FrankTrollman QUOTE (blakkie) Later after some runs the PC goes ... Oct 11 2005, 06:00 PM blakkie However the cost is still as if you had 5 points. ... Oct 11 2005, 06:13 PM calypso QUOTE (blakkie) However the cost is still as if yo... Oct 11 2005, 06:23 PM FrankTrollman QUOTE (blakkie) However the cost is still as if yo... Oct 11 2005, 06:25 PM blakkie QUOTE (FrankTrollman) Neither mentions anything ab... Oct 11 2005, 06:26 PM calypso QUOTE (blakkie) He's baaaack.
Except... Oct 11 2005, 06:29 PM blakkie QUOTE (calypso) QUOTE (blakkie @ Oct 11 2005,... Oct 11 2005, 06:35 PM mfb QUOTE (blakkie) Why, does it actually say what the... Oct 11 2005, 06:40 PM Raizer QUOTE (FrankTrollman) QUOTE (blakkie) However the ... Oct 11 2005, 06:44 PM blakkie @mfb: Unfortunately page 264 doesn't mention w... Oct 11 2005, 06:46 PM calypso QUOTE (Raizer @ Oct 11 2005, 01:44 PM) Frank ... Oct 11 2005, 06:48 PM blakkie QUOTE (calypso) QUOTE (Raizer @ Oct 11 2005, ... Oct 11 2005, 06:52 PM Jaid i believe you are thinking of a recommended ruling... Oct 11 2005, 06:53 PM calypso QUOTE (Jaid) anyways, calypso... i think you'r... Oct 11 2005, 06:55 PM FrankTrollman QUOTE (Raizer) What I can't find is if you app... Oct 11 2005, 06:59 PM Mr. Unpronounceable Also note that cyber and bio benefits to mental st... Oct 11 2005, 07:05 PM blakkie The example of Michelle on page 74 shows that you ... Oct 11 2005, 07:21 PM Veggiesama So the idea Frank and the rest are espousing is th... Oct 11 2005, 07:34 PM calypso I'm not sure it covers this in SR4, but it doe... Oct 11 2005, 07:35 PM Azralon How I understand it:
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Full Magician Steve s... Oct 11 2005, 07:44 PM Azralon QUOTE (calypso @ Oct 11 2005, 03:35 PM) I... Oct 11 2005, 07:48 PM FrankTrollman QUOTE So the idea Frank and the rest are espousin... Oct 11 2005, 07:56 PM Veggiesama QUOTE (calypso) If you get ware, and then have it ... Oct 11 2005, 08:02 PM calypso QUOTE (Veggiesama) Or how about just burn him out ... Oct 11 2005, 08:05 PM Superbum QUOTE (FrankTrollman) The current rules, however, ... Oct 11 2005, 08:11 PM Veggiesama Ignoring the fact that the 2n of ammo has to be fi... Oct 11 2005, 08:25 PM Superbum In the section about acquiring positive qualities ... Oct 11 2005, 08:30 PM hahnsoo @blakkie: In this case, Frank Trollman is correct.... Oct 11 2005, 08:42 PM Veggiesama Edit (me too slow):
Superbum:
Yeah, I'm not s... Oct 11 2005, 08:43 PM calypso QUOTE (Veggiesama) Yeah, I'm not saying they... Oct 11 2005, 08:48 PM FrankTrollman QUOTE (Superbum) QUOTE (FrankTrollman @ Oct 1... Oct 11 2005, 08:54 PM Mr. Unpronounceable QUOTE (Veggiesama) So I figure he had to have gain... Oct 11 2005, 08:58 PM hahnsoo QUOTE (Veggiesama) I'm not saying installing c... Oct 11 2005, 09:12 PM Veggiesama QUOTE
According to the rules, it is.
And accordi... Oct 11 2005, 09:35 PM hahnsoo It's been that way for 4 editions of Shadowrun... Oct 11 2005, 10:45 PM Gothic Rose An SR GM I gamed with used a rule that was:
For e... Oct 11 2005, 10:50 PM hyzmarca QUOTE (FrankTrollman) QUOTE (Superbum @ Oct 1... Oct 11 2005, 11:08 PM blakkie Ah, RL gives way....
Anyway now i remember, the r... Oct 11 2005, 11:21 PM Nkari Yup, and my question was if you applied the Essenc... Oct 11 2005, 11:59 PM blakkie Yes, the post script is the section talking about ... Oct 12 2005, 04:12 AM Xenith So many obvious holes in the rules... makes my hea... Oct 12 2005, 05:55 AM blakkie QUOTE (Xenith) So many obvious holes in the rules.... Oct 12 2005, 02:36 PM Azralon QUOTE (Veggiesama @ Oct 11 2005, 05:35 PM) It... Oct 12 2005, 03:27 PM Dim Sum Veggiesama, as Mr. Unpronoucable has mentioned, th... Oct 13 2005, 10:44 AM Fortune QUOTE (Dim Sum) In fact, IIRC, that novel came out... Oct 13 2005, 01:37 PM Jaid looking at it, i'm thinking it has to be a pen... Oct 13 2005, 09:20 PM FrankTrollman Not exactly. You only lose Magic if your Essence i... Oct 13 2005, 09:29 PM blakkie *smacks Frank with a dead mackerel* Oct 13 2005, 09:38 PM Jaid no, actually, a vampire starts it's life with ... Oct 13 2005, 09:41 PM blakkie QUOTE (Jaid @ Oct 13 2005, 03:41 PM) so, unle... Oct 13 2005, 09:48 PM FrankTrollman QUOTE Critters with Essence Loss have no actual Es... Oct 13 2005, 09:52 PM Jaid hmmm... i suppose i could see that. i would still ... Oct 13 2005, 10:17 PM blakkie QUOTE (Jaid @ Oct 13 2005, 04:17 PM) hmmm... ... Oct 13 2005, 10:19 PM Jaid ok, so now all the average street sammy needs to d... Oct 13 2005, 10:21 PM blakkie QUOTE (Jaid @ Oct 13 2005, 04:21 PM) ok, so n... Oct 13 2005, 10:25 PM FrankTrollman QUOTE (blakkie)
Also note that the BBB talks about... Oct 13 2005, 10:43 PM Jaid i dunno... there may not be a difference between c... Oct 13 2005, 11:00 PM Nkari Ohhh.. I made a monster.. Oct 13 2005, 11:03 PM blakkie QUOTE (FrankTrollman @ Oct 13 2005, 04:43 PM)... Oct 13 2005, 11:13 PM Chandon Blackie, Frank:
We all know that the end result o... Oct 14 2005, 01:35 AM FrankTrollman QUOTE (Chandon) Blackie, Frank:
We all know that ... Oct 14 2005, 01:38 AM Chandon QUOTE (FrankTrollman)It specifically does apply to... Oct 14 2005, 02:51 AM Dim Sum QUOTE (Fortune) QUOTE (Dim Sum @ Oct 13 2005,... Oct 14 2005, 07:51 AM Fortune Tell me about it! Oct 14 2005, 08:01 AM Kremlin KOA scary thought
Ordo maximus + shedim + power swap... Oct 14 2005, 11:34 AM blakkie QUOTE (Chandon @ Oct 13 2005, 08:51 PM) QUOTE... Oct 14 2005, 02:17 PM
Abschalten I'm so houseruling in the existence of Articul... Oct 15 2005, 06:50 PM  |
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