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The Jopp
post Oct 28 2005, 10:23 AM
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Is it just me or have spirits stayed the same from SR3 while characters & guns have drastically changed?

The immunity to normal weapons for spirits seems to include elemental effect weapons (like tazers) unless they have an allergy to it.

This means that it is IMPOSSIBLE to harm a Force 5 spirit with a panther assault cannon, not to mention the fact that character attributes are almost halved compared to SR3 which means that Charisma/Willpower attacks will be somewhat weaker.

Now, I can understand that dragons are supposed to be powerful (stats around 50yish or something) but aren't spirits a wee bit powerful now? It was at least possible to harm a F5 spirit before with a powerful enough handgun or an elemental effect weapon in SR3, but now??? :eek:

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- The Jopp   Spirits & Immunity   Oct 28 2005, 10:23 AM
- - Dancer   QUOTE Hardened Armor Type: P • Action: Auto • Rang...   Oct 28 2005, 10:58 AM
- - Rifleman   Actually, this topic came up in of all places the ...   Oct 28 2005, 11:04 AM
- - The Jopp   Aah, that explains a lot, Tazers sounds nice then,...   Oct 28 2005, 11:23 AM
- - PlatonicPimp   BTW, force of personality attacks are out. They no...   Oct 28 2005, 02:09 PM
- - Dancer   QUOTE (The Jopp) Aah, that explains a lot, Tazers ...   Oct 28 2005, 02:20 PM
- - Azralon   Pfft, good luck even hitting an Air:5.   Oct 28 2005, 02:34 PM
- - SMDVogrin   QUOTE (Dancer) Armor piercing weapons are the answ...   Oct 28 2005, 03:29 PM
- - Dancer   QUOTE (Azralon) Pfft, good luck even hitting an Ai...   Oct 28 2005, 03:43 PM
- - FrankTrollman   QUOTE (Dancer) QUOTE (Azralon @ Oct 28 2005, ...   Oct 28 2005, 03:50 PM
- - PlatonicPimp   Plus that -1 die pool each rime you make a defense...   Oct 28 2005, 03:51 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (FrankTrollman @ Oct 28 2005, 09:50 AM)...   Oct 28 2005, 04:09 PM
- - blakkie   BTW if you are good enough to drop an Airburst HE ...   Oct 28 2005, 04:12 PM
- - PlatonicPimp   Also, Naval grade weaponry might work, and subtact...   Oct 28 2005, 04:15 PM
- - Azralon   Best I've been able to come up with is a zergl...   Oct 28 2005, 04:15 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (PlatonicPimp) Also, Naval grade weaponry mi...   Oct 28 2005, 04:27 PM
- - Kleaner   I had a force 5 spirit attack my players the other...   Oct 28 2005, 05:46 PM
- - PlatonicPimp   But really, you need to do a little thinking when ...   Oct 28 2005, 05:52 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Kleaner @ Oct 28 2005, 11:46 AM) p.s. ...   Oct 28 2005, 06:05 PM
- - Azralon   QUOTE (Kleaner) p.s. I was also reading the x...   Oct 28 2005, 06:31 PM
- - Dancer   QUOTE (FrankTrollman @ Oct 28 2005, 03:50 PM)...   Oct 29 2005, 02:09 AM
- - Rifleman   Ok, a chart giving how many net hits (as per modif...   Oct 29 2005, 01:07 PM
- - Red   QUOTE (SMDVogrin @ Oct 28 2005, 10:29 AM) QUO...   Oct 29 2005, 03:37 PM
- - Jaid   QUOTE (Dancer) QUOTE (FrankTrollman @ Oct 28 ...   Oct 29 2005, 03:49 PM
- - maa01   QUOTE (Jaid)well, if you don't mind force 5 li...   Oct 29 2005, 04:27 PM
- - blakkie   That is something that really should have been inc...   Oct 29 2005, 04:51 PM
- - Jaid   QUOTE (maa01 @ Oct 29 2005, 11:27 AM) QUOTE (...   Oct 29 2005, 04:51 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Jaid) ie, could you give a spirit boosted r...   Oct 29 2005, 04:56 PM
- - Jaid   well, yeah, i figured the bound spirit thing was k...   Oct 29 2005, 05:34 PM
- - Rifleman   For the record, many people play by the house rule...   Oct 29 2005, 09:57 PM
- - Elve   I indeed like the x as x... A spirit should be nea...   Oct 29 2005, 10:26 PM
- - Zeel De Mort   Or if you're mundane...? You get taken out b...   Oct 29 2005, 10:37 PM
- - Rifleman   QUOTE (Zeel De Mort) Or if you're mundane...? ...   Oct 29 2005, 11:07 PM
- - snowRaven   QUOTE (Red) *Though, if materialized spirits are i...   Oct 30 2005, 12:06 AM
- - Hasaku   QUOTE (Red @ Oct 29 2005, 08:37 AM) *Though,...   Oct 30 2005, 07:29 AM
- - Azralon   QUOTE (maa01 @ Oct 29 2005, 12:27 PM) And as ...   Oct 31 2005, 04:20 PM
- - Gondor   In SR3 you could attack with force of personality(...   Oct 31 2005, 05:24 PM
- - Shinobi Killfist   add in that unbound spirits can be sent on remote ...   Nov 1 2005, 05:01 AM
- - Dancer   How does Innate Spell (for Spirits of Man) work? I...   Nov 1 2005, 05:41 AM
- - FrankTrollman   QUOTE (Dancer) If I summon a Spirit of Man with St...   Nov 1 2005, 10:44 AM
- - Dancer   Thanks. Not as hard to kill as a Spirit of Air, bu...   Nov 1 2005, 11:08 AM
- - Azralon   QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist) Summon, remote service ki...   Nov 1 2005, 04:59 PM
- - phelious fogg   Or just replace the grenade with a remote activate...   Nov 1 2005, 05:01 PM
- - Azralon   Sure, there's that. I was assuming no availab...   Nov 1 2005, 05:04 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Azralon @ Nov 1 2005, 10:59 AM) Since ...   Nov 1 2005, 05:07 PM
- - Azralon   QUOTE (blakkie) EDIT: Unless the GM decided to be ...   Nov 1 2005, 05:34 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Azralon) QUOTE (blakkie @ Nov 1 2005, ...   Nov 1 2005, 05:42 PM
- - FrankTrollman   Since the spirit doesn't really exist before i...   Nov 1 2005, 06:13 PM
- - blakkie   The spirit apparently exists. QUOTE Th e Drain V...   Nov 1 2005, 06:20 PM
- - Azralon   QUOTE (blakkie) The truely devious part about it i...   Nov 3 2005, 04:32 PM
- - Zen Shooter01   It's clear to me that spirits are broken. Any ...   Nov 3 2005, 11:30 PM
- - blakkie   It is still a Complex Action (quite possibly with ...   Nov 3 2005, 11:49 PM
- - Zen Shooter01   Which only creates unmaneagle paranoia in the play...   Nov 4 2005, 02:56 AM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Zen Shooter01) Which only creates unmaneagl...   Nov 4 2005, 03:27 AM


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