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Eyeless Blond
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What do you suppose would happen to game balance is mages swapped Magic and their tradition's stat for conjuring and sorcery tests? What I mean is, for instance:

1) Mage rolls (Attribute)+Sorcery skill to cast a spell, like Logic+Spellcasting for a hermetic, or Charisma+Spellcasting for a shaman
2) Mage rolls Magic+Willpower for Drain.

I'm thinking this could be a good idea for limiting the power of mages in the long term. This way, instead of using the cap-less Magic attribute for actual spellcasting--thus as you gain in power easily overshadowing the Opposed character's dice pool--they "only" use their attribute cap-breaking Magic stat to help resist Drain. It also makes that primary stat for a mage's tradition even more integral to their actual spellcasting rather than Drain, which makes more sense to me flavor-wise.

So, what do you think? Am I missing something important?
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- Eyeless Blond   Magic Tweak   Oct 29 2005, 05:53 PM
- - Squinky   Sounds cool to me...   Oct 29 2005, 06:50 PM
- - Dread Polack   So, the Magic attribute would still cap the force ...   Oct 29 2005, 11:13 PM
- - Eyeless Blond   QUOTE (Dread Polack)So, the Magic attribute would ...   Oct 30 2005, 03:03 AM
- - blakkie   Well, without further modification to the rules, P...   Oct 30 2005, 05:02 AM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Eyeless Blond @ Oct 29 2005, 12:53 PM)...   Oct 30 2005, 05:49 PM
- - Shemhazai   I think this is an intriguing idea. Maybe it work...   Oct 31 2005, 09:21 AM
- - Eyeless Blond   To be honest Shemhazai most of that isn't a fl...   Oct 31 2005, 01:00 PM
- - Azralon   I find myself liking the idea quite a bit. It doe...   Oct 31 2005, 03:59 PM
- - PlatonicPimp   There may be one other side effect of this adaptat...   Oct 31 2005, 06:35 PM
- - 2bit   "Magic can theoretically do anything" ha...   Oct 31 2005, 08:33 PM
- - Azralon   QUOTE (PlatonicPimp)No matter how awesome your dic...   Oct 31 2005, 08:58 PM
- - PlatonicPimp   QUOTE (Azralon) With regard to other spells, you...   Oct 31 2005, 10:57 PM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (2bit) "Magic can theoretically do anyt...   Nov 1 2005, 03:58 AM
- - Eyeless Blond   And further magic can do anything, but metahumanit...   Nov 1 2005, 03:29 PM
- - blakkie   This has come up before; The GGD was actually more...   Nov 1 2005, 04:34 PM
- - Azralon   QUOTE (PlatonicPimp) Why would I cast a high force...   Nov 1 2005, 04:38 PM
- - Azralon   QUOTE (blakkie) This has come up before; The GGD w...   Nov 1 2005, 04:40 PM
- - FrankTrollman   QUOTE (Azralon) Regarding the upper limits of magi...   Nov 1 2005, 06:50 PM
- - Cynic project   Well, to be honest look at the world around you.It...   Nov 1 2005, 07:05 PM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Cynic project) Well, to be honest look at t...   Nov 1 2005, 08:04 PM
- - PlatonicPimp   QUOTE (Azralon) Regarding the upper limits of mag...   Nov 1 2005, 11:16 PM
- - blakkie   Unfortunately "direct damge spells" work...   Nov 2 2005, 12:03 AM
- - Shemhazai   This would be great for player characters. Even t...   Nov 2 2005, 12:13 AM
- - blakkie   Ironically it would give GD, in SR4 RAW, an extra ...   Nov 2 2005, 12:34 AM
- - Eyeless Blond   Note that dragons (and presumably IEs too) break t...   Nov 2 2005, 06:28 PM
- - blakkie   The metahuman Skill cap isn't really broken by...   Nov 2 2005, 06:38 PM
- - Eyeless Blond   QUOTE (blakkie) Average hits from Centering is out...   Nov 2 2005, 06:57 PM
- - Azralon   QUOTE (Eyeless Blond @ Nov 2 2005, 02:57 PM) ...   Nov 2 2005, 10:24 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Eyeless Blond @ Nov 2 2005, 12:57 PM) ...   Nov 2 2005, 10:33 PM
- - Azralon   Lemme sum up what I'm thinking in an example: ...   Nov 2 2005, 10:43 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Azralon @ Nov 2 2005, 04:43 PM) This f...   Nov 2 2005, 11:15 PM
- - Azralon   I did say "more consistent."   Nov 3 2005, 02:44 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Azralon) I did say "more consistent....   Nov 3 2005, 04:44 PM
- - Azralon   QUOTE (blakkie) You are taking it and making it So...   Nov 3 2005, 04:52 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Azralon @ Nov 3 2005, 10:52 AM) QUOTE ...   Nov 3 2005, 04:55 PM
- - Eyeless Blond   Ah, so some of you *do* like the idea of reinvisio...   Nov 3 2005, 05:08 PM
- - Azralon   I think I see your boggle, Blakkie. I'll expl...   Nov 3 2005, 05:13 PM
- - Azralon   QUOTE (Eyeless Blond @ Nov 3 2005, 01:08 PM) ...   Nov 3 2005, 05:16 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Eyeless Blond @ Nov 3 2005, 11:08 AM) ...   Nov 3 2005, 05:50 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Azralon @ Nov 3 2005, 11:13 AM) The or...   Nov 3 2005, 05:53 PM
- - Eyeless Blond   QUOTE (blakkie @ Nov 3 2005, 09:50 AM) QUOTE ...   Nov 3 2005, 06:00 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Eyeless Blond @ Nov 3 2005, 12:00 PM) ...   Nov 3 2005, 06:16 PM
- - PlatonicPimp   In the places your proposal makes sense, it also ...   Nov 3 2005, 06:20 PM
- - Azralon   QUOTE (blakkie @ Nov 3 2005, 01:53 PM) QUOTE ...   Nov 3 2005, 07:00 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (PlatonicPimp) I feel that the "ownage...   Nov 3 2005, 07:05 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Azralon @ Nov 3 2005, 01:00 PM) QUOTE ...   Nov 3 2005, 09:16 PM
- - Azralon   QUOTE (blakkie) As i pointed out from the start, i...   Nov 4 2005, 01:20 AM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Azralon @ Nov 3 2005, 07:20 PM) QUOTE ...   Nov 4 2005, 02:06 AM
- - Gothic Rose   QUOTE (Eyeless Blond) So, here's my beef with...   Nov 4 2005, 05:37 AM
- - Azralon   QUOTE (blakkie) You just didn't actually accom...   Nov 4 2005, 05:38 AM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Azralon) QUOTE (blakkie @ Nov 3 2005, ...   Nov 4 2005, 04:06 PM
- - Azralon   <pat pat>   Nov 4 2005, 04:09 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Azralon) <pat pat> Oops, that...   Nov 4 2005, 05:38 PM
- - Eyeless Blond   QUOTE (Gothic Rose) Because, you know, the hacker ...   Nov 4 2005, 06:08 PM
- - PlatonicPimp   I plan on solving the problem much more easily. Wh...   Nov 4 2005, 06:53 PM
- - Eyeless Blond   "Oop, your character hit his fifth initiation...   Nov 5 2005, 05:12 PM
- - Fortune   I absolutely despise GM-forced retirement.   Nov 8 2005, 01:25 AM
- - Gothic Rose   QUOTE (Eyeless Blond) Hm. Edge does seem to be a ...   Nov 8 2005, 01:43 AM


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