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mdynna
post Feb 22 2006, 11:23 PM
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I picked up on something that was clarified in the lastest errata (v 1.3) and I wanted to make sure everyone else was aware of it as well.

In SR4 there is (now) a clear distinction between a modification to a skill rating and a bonus to a skill rating. The errata re-wrote 2 very key paragraphs on pg. 63 and pg. 109 that talk about the difference. The most important point is that an implant, power, or ability that modifies a skill rating has a limit: the modified skill rating cannot exceed the BASE rating by more than 1.5, rounded DOWN.

That means that for your Gunslinger Adept to have a modified Pistols skill of 9, he/she must have a the base skill at 6. This distinction also makes other ablities, like Kinestics, way more powerful as they provide bonus dice and thus, can "improve" something an unlimited amount.

I just wanted to make sure everyone else saw what I saw.
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- mdynna   Skill Ratings: Modified vs. Bonus   Feb 22 2006, 11:23 PM
- - Serbitar   I've seen it and I dont like it. Especially th...   Feb 22 2006, 11:33 PM
- - Thanee   I havn't seen a lot of skill rating modifiers....   Feb 23 2006, 07:34 AM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   The Adept Power of course.   Feb 23 2006, 08:31 AM
- - Thanee   - deleted, because it was false - Bye Thanee   Feb 23 2006, 10:26 AM
- - Crusher Bob   Ah, yes this means that Mr. Scary, the not-fully o...   Feb 23 2006, 10:58 AM
- - Serbitar   QUOTE (Thanee @ Feb 23 2006, 05:26 AM) But th...   Feb 23 2006, 11:05 AM
- - Thanee   Ahh... Improved Ability has been errata'ed as ...   Feb 23 2006, 11:20 AM
- - Brahm   QUOTE (Thanee) Ahh... Improved Ability has been er...   Feb 23 2006, 03:30 PM
- - Synner   QUOTE (mdynna) In SR4 there is (now) a clear disti...   Feb 23 2006, 07:28 PM
- - Glyph   Crusher Bob is right about how ugly it can get wit...   Feb 24 2006, 06:58 AM
- - The Horror   Does this rule also apply to attributes? Ie. If a...   Feb 24 2006, 07:23 AM
- - Crusher Bob   AFAIK, stats are only limited to the augmented max...   Feb 24 2006, 07:43 AM
- - Darkness   QUOTE (The Horror) Does this rule also apply to at...   Feb 24 2006, 12:39 PM
- - Thanee   Would the Synthacardium be counted as bonus dice? ...   Feb 24 2006, 12:45 PM
- - Darkness   QUOTE (Thanee @ Feb 24 2006, 01:45 PM) Would ...   Feb 24 2006, 05:04 PM
- - mdynna   I just thought of something I'm not clear abou...   Feb 24 2006, 05:21 PM
- - Serbitar   why shouldnt you ? After you applied improvements ...   Feb 24 2006, 05:26 PM
- - Azralon   QUOTE (Serbitar @ Feb 22 2006, 07:33 PM) I...   Feb 24 2006, 05:43 PM
- - Frackula   QUOTE (Crusher Bob) Ah, yes this means that Mr. Sc...   Feb 24 2006, 05:54 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   Allright that's twenty-five dice, twenty-five,...   Feb 24 2006, 05:57 PM
- - Brahm   QUOTE (Frackula @ Feb 24 2006, 12:54 PM) Spec...   Feb 24 2006, 05:59 PM
- - Azralon   QUOTE (Moon-Hawk @ Feb 24 2006, 01:57 PM) All...   Feb 24 2006, 06:08 PM
- - Frackula   QUOTE (Brahm) QUOTE (Frackula @ Feb 24 2006, ...   Feb 24 2006, 06:48 PM
- - Frackula   QUOTE (Moon-Hawk @ Feb 24 2006, 12:57 PM) All...   Feb 24 2006, 07:07 PM
- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (Azralon @ Feb 24 2006, 06:43 PM) That ...   Feb 24 2006, 07:32 PM
- - Shrike30   I've got a kinesics 5 adept in the game I...   Feb 24 2006, 08:48 PM
- - Azralon   QUOTE (Frackula) Oh, and he wears Trid Phantasm cl...   Feb 24 2006, 08:51 PM
- - Brahm   QUOTE (Shrike30) Of course, when the Shivers are y...   Feb 24 2006, 09:06 PM
- - Shrike30   "Shouldn't I get to make a Negotiation Op...   Feb 24 2006, 10:41 PM
- - Glyph   QUOTE (mdynna)I just thought of something I'm ...   Feb 25 2006, 03:53 AM
- - Glyph   QUOTE (Moon-Hawk)Allright that's twenty-five d...   Feb 25 2006, 04:16 AM
- - Frackula   QUOTE (Glyph) QUOTE (Moon-Hawk)Allright that's...   Feb 25 2006, 07:15 AM
- - Darkness   RE: Skill Ratings: Modified vs. Bonus   Feb 25 2006, 02:14 PM
- - hobgoblin   hmm, shivers? when did we go from shadowrun to SLA...   Feb 25 2006, 02:53 PM
- - Brahm   Reathanol flashback.   Feb 25 2006, 03:26 PM
- - Shrike30   Hey, Shivers were/are the shit.   Feb 25 2006, 07:33 PM
- - Larsine   QUOTE (Glyph)Elf with 7 Charisma (since only one s...   Feb 26 2006, 10:47 AM
- - Glyph   It's kind of an ambiguously worded rule, but y...   Feb 27 2006, 02:16 AM
- - fool   :love:kinesics 3 with control thoughts at spell ca...   Feb 27 2006, 10:41 PM
- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (Glyph) It's kind of an ambiguously word...   Feb 27 2006, 11:36 PM
- - ryanstone   In regard to the Gunslinger Adept that we being di...   Feb 27 2006, 11:58 PM
- - Darkness   QUOTE (ryanstone) In regard to the Gunslinger Adep...   Feb 28 2006, 01:38 AM
- - Xenith   I've been toying with a suprisingly useful hou...   Feb 28 2006, 01:58 AM
- - Ankle Biter   QUOTE (Frackula) QUOTE (Glyph @ Feb 24 2006, ...   Mar 30 2006, 10:23 PM
- - mdynna   QUOTE (Darkness) QUOTE (ryanstone @ Feb 28 20...   Mar 31 2006, 04:43 PM
- - PBTHHHHT   QUOTE (Ankle Biter) QUOTE (Frackula @ Feb 25 ...   Mar 31 2006, 08:16 PM
- - NightHaunter   Social Adepts are insane but the one I put in last...   Apr 1 2006, 10:22 AM
- - hobgoblin   QUOTE the shaman went astral after a failed ram wi...   Apr 1 2006, 12:01 PM
- - b1ffov3rfl0w   That shouldn't work on a Westwind Eurocar. It...   Apr 2 2006, 06:02 AM
- - Jaid   QUOTE (b1ffov3rfl0w) That shouldn't work on a ...   Apr 2 2006, 07:22 AM
- - lorechaser   Resurrecting this thread. The Pornomancer gets *s...   Sep 1 2006, 06:27 PM
- - Samaels Ghost   losechaser, how could you forget to mention some o...   Sep 3 2006, 12:12 AM
- - Aaron   Why hasn't anybody mentioned the two obvious P...   Sep 3 2006, 08:38 AM
- - Ranneko   Because the point is to not need those spells, tha...   Sep 3 2006, 02:40 PM
- - lorechaser   Exactly. There's something to be said for a h...   Sep 3 2006, 04:27 PM
- - Critias   Uhh, yeah. 'Cause doing stuff through Adept p...   Sep 3 2006, 05:57 PM
- - Eryk the Red   Well, you know, Critias, it's more indirect. Y...   Sep 3 2006, 07:21 PM


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