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TinkerGnome
post Mar 7 2006, 06:43 PM
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There's a reason this is only "sort of" a recruitment thread. I'm proposing the running of a SR4 game based around a Seattle street gang. However, such a broad concept is difficult to pin down since I want the players (or potential players, or just interested folks) to have a hand in creating the gang and its environment.

To that end, I've put together a Wiki where we put together things as they come of age. While we have the Wiki, I expect a large amount of discussion to actually occur in this thread. The Wiki is simply a good way to spread out the work of putting it all together.

A short FAQ:

You're using a Wiki to discuss the gang, does this mean you're not running the game on this forum?

No. I'll be running the game in the traditional fashion on this board. The Wiki is simply a powerful tool to use for a group to write a shared story.

Is this game going to be different from other SR games?

It will definitely not be a typical "group goes and gets a run from a Johnson, goes on run, collects pay" type game. For one thing, it'll be much more driven by the players. This is both an empowering and potentially destructive thing as the GM is not the one mainly responsible for the pace of the game. The GM will, of course, be throwing in events (like a rival gang beating up someone, NPCs hassling PCs, etc.) to create situations and combats, but other things will be entirely in the hands of the players to initiate.

I'm here first, does that mean I get to play?

Hold on there, there are going to be some differences between this and a regular game. For one thing, there isn't going to be a hard cap on the number of players. Gangs are larger than shadowrunner teams and the individual gangers are weaker. Thus, it's easier to have ten gangers playing than it would be to have seven shadowrunners. However, the first few days of discussion are likely to set a strong course for the gang, so the earlier you jump in the better.

Can I send you a character?

It's still too early for that. Feel free to take a look at the draft character creation rules on the Wiki (or over in the SR4 forum), but keep in mind that those are draft rules. We'll get to that point eventually.

An Overview of the Gang

The following questions appear on the gang overview page and I'm placing them here to get things started. These are the first things we'll need to tackle, but they aren't the only things.

Where is the gang based?

There are gangs all over Seattle. Anywhere from downtown to the depths of the Barrens. Where this particular gang is located will determine a lot about the ways in which it can behave. The Seattle sourcebooks can be a big help, along with this map.

What is the gang's focus?

Simply staying alive in a Z-Zone, getting rich off BTLs, and defending a neighborhood are all possibilities for the primary focus of a street gang. That doesn't mean that the gang can't delve into other legal and illegal activities, as well, but the main purpose is important.

How big is the gang?

Are there ten members or thirty? Somewhere in between? Too few or too many is a problem.

What is the racial composition of the gang?

Certain gangs are made up of humans. Others are made up of elves or orks or trolls or all three. There are even a few dwarven gangs around. The racial composiiton of the gang is an important question.

What is the gang's relationship with the residents of its territory?

Is the gang on good terms with the local populace, or is it feared? How does the gang treat the regular, law-abiding citizens in its territory?
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- TinkerGnome   Recruitment (sorta): SR4 Ganger Game   Mar 7 2006, 06:43 PM
- - BlackHat   I'm not sure whether you wanted hte discussion...   Mar 7 2006, 07:08 PM
- - TinkerGnome   Both, really. We should probably do most of the t...   Mar 7 2006, 07:33 PM
- - DireRadiant   Discussion is going to revolve around what kind of...   Mar 7 2006, 07:34 PM
- - Thanee   As said in the other thread, I would be interested...   Mar 7 2006, 07:51 PM
- - TinkerGnome   I'm not going to make any hard suggestions, bu...   Mar 7 2006, 07:59 PM
- - FrankTrollman   I would love to play a Dwarven Technomancer ganger...   Mar 7 2006, 08:01 PM
- - WinterRat1   A few suggestions/thoughts: Gang Based: Redmond B...   Mar 7 2006, 08:07 PM
- - DireRadiant   So what's the basic process? Build a Gang, pl...   Mar 7 2006, 08:55 PM
- - ES_Sparky   I'm interested TG. I like the idea of this g...   Mar 7 2006, 09:08 PM
- - Vegas   I could be interested in this... indeed   Mar 7 2006, 09:10 PM
- - Thyme Lost   I'm interested, if I have the time. I'm al...   Mar 7 2006, 09:27 PM
- - Wounded Ronin   Oooh, I've been waiting to be able to play an ...   Mar 7 2006, 09:54 PM
- - ES_Sparky   It's nice to be all-inclusive from a race stan...   Mar 7 2006, 10:24 PM
- - BlackHat   I would also like to play, but I don't know th...   Mar 7 2006, 10:25 PM
- - DireRadiant   Starting scenario: PC are sitting around the ...   Mar 7 2006, 10:33 PM
- - FrankTrollman   As most gangs are started by people in their early...   Mar 7 2006, 10:33 PM
- - Wounded Ronin   Damn, I just looked at the chargen rules and reali...   Mar 7 2006, 11:07 PM
- - ES_Sparky   I really really think that having a single dominan...   Mar 7 2006, 11:07 PM
- - Rokur   YES! A ganger game! the most fun time in t...   Mar 8 2006, 12:33 AM
- - Voorhees   I used to play in the Bleeding Edge gang game that...   Mar 8 2006, 12:52 AM
- - Jaid   I'm definitely interested in this too. Dunno ...   Mar 8 2006, 01:00 AM
- - FrankTrollman   QUOTE Anyway, everything I learned about gangs I l...   Mar 8 2006, 02:27 AM
- - Silo   TG, I could be down for this. I am sort of in ag...   Mar 8 2006, 02:38 AM
- - ES_Sparky   There's some interesting data on the money sid...   Mar 8 2006, 03:27 AM
- - Wounded Ronin   QUOTE (FrankTrollman) QUOTE Anyway, everything I l...   Mar 8 2006, 03:44 AM
- - Dale   I could've sworn that a lot of gang members we...   Mar 8 2006, 03:58 AM
- - FrankTrollman   QUOTE (Dale) I could've sworn that a lot of ga...   Mar 8 2006, 04:45 AM
- - TinkerGnome   I'm still working out the specifics of charact...   Mar 8 2006, 04:48 AM
- - Cold-Dragon   This sounds entertaining, if a tad crazy in setup ...   Mar 8 2006, 04:50 AM
- - WinterRat1   A few more thoughts/suggestions: Re Race: I agree...   Mar 8 2006, 05:22 AM
- - WinterRat1   QUOTE QUOTE (DireRadiant) Build a Gang, players ...   Mar 8 2006, 05:26 AM
- - Cold-Dragon   ...Maybe we should appoint you as Tinker's ass...   Mar 8 2006, 05:31 AM
- - ES_Sparky   Let me go on record as saying I think Winterat...   Mar 8 2006, 06:34 AM
- - Thanee   I can now see, why WinterRat felt it necessary to ...   Mar 8 2006, 07:30 AM
- - BlackHat   While I still think that a racially homogenous gan...   Mar 8 2006, 01:08 PM
- - bladepoet   I think possibly to begin with what is required is...   Mar 8 2006, 01:18 PM
- - MK Ultra   I really like most ideas presented so far! bla...   Mar 8 2006, 01:52 PM
- - TinkerGnome   On the chargen front, I'm backing off lowering...   Mar 8 2006, 02:12 PM
- - bladepoet   QUOTE I'm going to throw out the idea that an...   Mar 8 2006, 02:46 PM
- - TinkerGnome   QUOTE (bladepoet)How about an older, ex-ganger tha...   Mar 8 2006, 03:10 PM
- - bladepoet   Oh, I agree. Not nescessarily whitehat But the ...   Mar 8 2006, 03:52 PM
- - DireRadiant   Since TinkerGnome is asking for "Build a Gang...   Mar 8 2006, 04:56 PM
- - Silo   I am in agreement with DireRadiant's comments/...   Mar 8 2006, 05:07 PM
- - bladepoet   Hmm, why Ork, Troll, Dwarf? Would it not make mo...   Mar 8 2006, 05:13 PM
- - NeonWraith   Ooh, this sounds fun. Count me in. (though grante...   Mar 8 2006, 05:26 PM
- - MK Ultra   So, first thing to decide would be the Securitylev...   Mar 8 2006, 05:26 PM
- - ES_Sparky   I vote that our turf be 'D'. No mages. S...   Mar 8 2006, 05:38 PM
- - Thanee   I also like the idea of a go gang. And I think Tro...   Mar 8 2006, 05:41 PM
- - NeonWraith   Thing is, security ratings are an indication of ho...   Mar 8 2006, 05:51 PM
- - BlackHat   I agree that a gang that only had a couple of huma...   Mar 8 2006, 06:36 PM
- - MK Ultra   Neon is right, these ratings do only represent the...   Mar 8 2006, 06:39 PM
- - TinkerGnome   I like either a C or D zone, personally. You...   Mar 8 2006, 06:42 PM
- - MK Ultra   What about Seattle-Downtown-Destrict? Population:...   Mar 8 2006, 06:53 PM
- - BlackHat   Thanks for all the area-info! Wow. Everett is...   Mar 8 2006, 06:56 PM
- - TinkerGnome   Downtown has a little bit of everything. You...   Mar 8 2006, 07:00 PM
- - Thanee   This one looks pretty good, I'd say. Everett...   Mar 8 2006, 07:07 PM
- - WinterRat1   As a few quick observations: 1. It seems like the...   Mar 8 2006, 07:51 PM
- - Silo   We could also be Go-Gang wannabees. In other words...   Mar 8 2006, 08:00 PM
- - TinkerGnome   Personally, a go-gang isn't my favorite, but I...   Mar 8 2006, 08:17 PM
- - Thanee   I think the SR go-gangs usually have a home area, ...   Mar 8 2006, 08:47 PM
- - Tashio   I'm not a fan of Go-Gangs either. Go-Gangs alo...   Mar 8 2006, 08:56 PM
- - Silo   Races Poll on the Wiki. i am not sure the races p...   Mar 8 2006, 09:06 PM
- - Thanee   QUOTE (Tashio)I'm not a fan of Go-Gangs either...   Mar 8 2006, 09:07 PM
- - Silo   in an overall sense, yes. however, if i only want ...   Mar 8 2006, 09:10 PM
- - Thanee   That was actually meant to be a reply to Tashio......   Mar 8 2006, 09:12 PM
- - Silo   Location: I voted for Puyallup mainly because of ...   Mar 8 2006, 09:12 PM
- - Silo   QUOTE (Thanee) That was actually meant to be a rep...   Mar 8 2006, 09:13 PM
- - ES_Sparky   Same here, Silo. In spite of my leaning toward a s...   Mar 8 2006, 09:14 PM
- - ES_Sparky   Early polling (which is all of 4 or 5 respondents)...   Mar 8 2006, 09:36 PM
- - Silo   QUOTE (ES_Sparky) Anyone see where I'm going w...   Mar 8 2006, 09:37 PM
- - BlackHat   QUOTE (ES_Sparky) Early polling (which is all of 4...   Mar 8 2006, 09:42 PM
- - BlackHat   Actually, Everett got jsut as many votes as those ...   Mar 8 2006, 09:43 PM
- - ES_Sparky   Ahem... Our gang could be huddling on the b...   Mar 8 2006, 09:45 PM
- - ES_Sparky   Hang on a sec, you guys are voting twice! Ma...   Mar 8 2006, 09:47 PM
- - Thanee   Well, I probably would have started with just the ...   Mar 8 2006, 09:51 PM
- - BlackHat   QUOTE (ES_Sparky) Hang on a sec, you guys are voti...   Mar 8 2006, 09:54 PM
- - Silo   I'm thinking that our "focus" can be...   Mar 8 2006, 09:56 PM
- - ES_Sparky   Right, I would agree, Thanee/BlackHat, but I think...   Mar 8 2006, 09:57 PM
- - NeonWraith   Go-gangs are generally portrayed as being psychoti...   Mar 8 2006, 10:15 PM
- - BlackHat   QUOTE (ES_Sparky) - For those of you who like go-g...   Mar 8 2006, 10:17 PM
- - Silo   I don't know a bunch about go gangs, so an exp...   Mar 8 2006, 10:19 PM
- - Silo   Couldn't we be a gang that liked to race witho...   Mar 8 2006, 10:21 PM
- - WinterRat1   I haven't voted yet, but I think a possible co...   Mar 8 2006, 10:25 PM
- - ES_Sparky   BlackHat's PC could be 'the rich guy....   Mar 8 2006, 10:31 PM
- - gobogen   Ok, this grows way too fast for me to follow all t...   Mar 8 2006, 10:40 PM
- - Silo   Winterrat, I like it. I can't wait until we ...   Mar 8 2006, 10:41 PM
- - BlackHat   QUOTE (ES_Sparky) What is the most important part ...   Mar 8 2006, 10:47 PM
- - MK Ultra   I really think, itīs unnacessary to nail down focu...   Mar 8 2006, 11:46 PM
- - ES_Sparky   Some fluff for the Auburn/Pullyallup border... Th...   Mar 9 2006, 12:20 AM
- - TinkerGnome   QUOTE (Silo)Oh yeah, and the Princes sound like ch...   Mar 9 2006, 01:42 AM
- - ES_Sparky   Bah.... it's 418, not 410. Sadly, 410 is WAY ...   Mar 9 2006, 02:20 AM
- - DireRadiant   We don't need to be a classic go gang. I just...   Mar 9 2006, 02:41 AM
- - BlackHat   Just like... 2 Fast 2 Furious! hehe   Mar 9 2006, 04:04 AM
- - Thanee   Hehe, yeah. I'm definitely fine with a typical...   Mar 9 2006, 06:39 AM
- - MK Ultra   So, there are some votes cast now. On the Turf. L...   Mar 9 2006, 11:02 AM
- - bladepoet   Personally, I am against the go-gang thing. I th...   Mar 9 2006, 11:45 AM
- - MK Ultra   We could hang out in Loyalty Park and sell drugs (...   Mar 9 2006, 11:55 AM
- - Vegas   I'm working up a "face/con" type cha...   Mar 9 2006, 02:38 PM
- - Rokur   If we were thinking of naming concepts already, wa...   Mar 9 2006, 02:45 PM
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