 Suppressive Fire question |
 Apr 16 2006, 11:48 PM
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Edit: I read it some more and I think I get. I'd erase this post but it won't let me. Thanks :)
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jklst14 Suppressive Fire question Apr 16 2006, 11:48 PM
Hunga Well, too bad you erased your post before I got to... Apr 21 2006, 02:04 PM mdynna Free Actions can be taken at any time in the Initi... Apr 21 2006, 02:58 PM UndeadPoet Person A can not actually use his action to fall p... Apr 21 2006, 03:10 PM Hunga (pg. 135 - second paragraph)
"A character may... Apr 21 2006, 03:23 PM UndeadPoet Okay, then there is a special ruling about using f... Apr 21 2006, 03:46 PM Aaron QUOTE (UndeadPoet @ Apr 21 2006, 10:46 AM) Ok... Apr 21 2006, 03:51 PM Hunga I guess I should qualify my scenario. Let's s... Apr 21 2006, 04:21 PM UndeadPoet @Aaron: You missed the fact that the opponents sti... Apr 21 2006, 04:54 PM Hunga QUOTE (UndeadPoet)@Hunga: Before you convinced me ... Apr 21 2006, 05:12 PM Aku also, dont forget, that iirc, suppressive fire las... Apr 21 2006, 05:15 PM UndeadPoet @Hunga: Doh! Okay, got it, thanks.
@Aku: Noth... Apr 21 2006, 05:17 PM Butterblume QUOTE (UndeadPoet)Using my whole phase to hurl twe... Apr 21 2006, 05:18 PM mdynna I think the most important point of Suppressive Fi... Apr 21 2006, 05:25 PM dcpirahna As I read it from the rules:
Combat Phase 1
A . s... Apr 21 2006, 05:35 PM mdynna So, people who are in the field of fire (wow, old ... Apr 21 2006, 05:41 PM UndeadPoet QUOTE (mdynna)Basically, it forces everyone in the... Apr 21 2006, 05:47 PM dcpirahna From my interpretation you are correct UndeadPoet.... Apr 21 2006, 05:49 PM hobgoblin but by limiting movement you can control where the... Apr 21 2006, 05:52 PM Hunga QUOTE (UndeadPoet)
QUOTE (mdynna)Example:
Initiati... Apr 21 2006, 06:55 PM James McMurray It may have been done as a play balance issue? I c... Apr 21 2006, 06:58 PM dcpirahna Corp B and C could not have talked about the weath... Apr 21 2006, 07:03 PM Butterblume After rethinking, i agree with dcpirahna. Apr 21 2006, 07:13 PM Kremlin KOA QUOTE (dcpirahna) From my interpretation you are c... Apr 21 2006, 07:38 PM dcpirahna The only real issue is things that cause people... Apr 21 2006, 07:39 PM Hunga It wasn't mentioned as the first combat phase,... Apr 21 2006, 07:42 PM dcpirahna QUOTE (Kremlin KOA) they could CAST back
but shoot... Apr 21 2006, 07:45 PM Hunga I agree with targets being able to fire back. In ... Apr 21 2006, 07:51 PM James McMurray I'm not agreeing with anyone until I have a bo... Apr 21 2006, 07:52 PM Butterblume When laying down suppressive fire in a narrow corr... Apr 21 2006, 08:01 PM dcpirahna Typed it in for you Hopefully quoting this much ... Apr 21 2006, 08:06 PM James McMurray It looks to me like if they're in it they get ... Apr 21 2006, 08:24 PM dcpirahna QUOTE (James McMurray @ Apr 21 2006, 03:24 PM... Apr 21 2006, 08:51 PM Kanada Ten QUOTE (James McMurray) It looks to me like if they... Apr 21 2006, 08:59 PM Kanada Ten QUOTE (dcpirahna) QUOTE (James McMurray @ Apr... Apr 21 2006, 09:02 PM dcpirahna QUOTE (Kanada Ten @ Apr 21 2006, 04:02 PM) Bu... Apr 21 2006, 09:12 PM Kanada Ten QUOTE Characters in the suppressed area who do not... Apr 21 2006, 09:21 PM dcpirahna QUOTE (Kanada Ten) QUOTE Characters in the suppres... Apr 21 2006, 09:24 PM Hunga QUOTE (Kanada Ten)QUOTE Characters in the suppress... Apr 21 2006, 09:37 PM Hunga Here's an example of only worrying about suppr... Apr 21 2006, 09:52 PM Butterblume That is a very munchkin example. Please don't ... Apr 21 2006, 09:55 PM Kanada Ten The thing is, by the rules you can only move someo... Apr 21 2006, 10:02 PM dcpirahna QUOTE (Hunga @ Apr 21 2006, 04:52 PM) Here... Apr 21 2006, 10:03 PM Kremlin KOA QUOTE (Kanada Ten) The thing is, by the rules you ... Apr 22 2006, 05:13 AM Kanada Ten QUOTE (Kremlin KOA) QUOTE (Kanada Ten @ Apr 2... Apr 22 2006, 05:38 AM Hunga QUOTE (dcpirahna)Nope, that's just fine. Becau... Apr 22 2006, 07:07 PM Kanada Ten Reading the SR4 Full Defense rules makes me more s... Apr 23 2006, 05:07 AM Lagomorph strangely, this is a better deal for those with po... Apr 24 2006, 09:20 PM dcpirahna There's two ways to handle that.
One:
Assume ... Apr 24 2006, 09:35 PM Shrike30 The "better deal" for Joe is that he onl... Apr 24 2006, 09:36 PM dcpirahna QUOTE (Shrike30) Yeah, it's a little nuts for ... Apr 24 2006, 09:40 PM Big D After seeing this whole thread, here's a wild ... Apr 24 2006, 09:55 PM Kanada Ten Can you declare Full Defense after your last pass? Apr 24 2006, 10:03 PM Moon-Hawk I don't see why not. Wouldn't it just com... Apr 24 2006, 10:07 PM Big D That's my thinking. Apr 24 2006, 10:55 PM Shrike30 QUOTE (dcpirahna @ Apr 24 2006, 01:40 PM) The... Apr 24 2006, 11:28 PM dcpirahna The "moves in to" and "moves out of... Apr 25 2006, 12:28 AM hobgoblin i would say anyone inside the suppresion zone when... Apr 25 2006, 01:30 AM Big D I would make it .5R*m for crawling safely instead ... Apr 25 2006, 03:13 AM Clyde Seems to me the fairest way to handle it is:
Char... Apr 25 2006, 03:37 AM Big D My only objection to that is that if you soak the ... Apr 25 2006, 04:00 AM DrowVampyre Hmm, well, I'm certainly no authority on it, b... Apr 25 2006, 06:03 AM CONAN9845 Well, if you are elevated, and shooting down at so... Apr 25 2006, 10:40 AM Shrike30 QUOTE (dcpirahna @ Apr 24 2006, 04:28 PM) The... Apr 25 2006, 05:49 PM dcpirahna You have A, B, and C.
B and C both mean on the ta... Apr 25 2006, 06:12 PM James McMurray Currently means now. There's not really a lot ... Apr 25 2006, 06:49 PM Big D Please note that suppression isn't a complete ... Apr 25 2006, 07:44 PM hobgoblin and it allso costs 20 rounds, no matter if you hit... Apr 25 2006, 07:53 PM dcpirahna QUOTE (James McMurray @ Apr 25 2006, 01:49 PM... Apr 25 2006, 09:29 PM James McMurray Letting them drop prone is what I would probably d... Apr 25 2006, 09:51 PM Shrike30 QUOTE Characters who are in the suppressed who do ... Apr 25 2006, 09:54 PM Kanada Ten A turn is a period, therefore, currently can mean ... Apr 25 2006, 10:01 PM dcpirahna re: currently. You are missing the point. It mea... Apr 25 2006, 10:03 PM James McMurray Your interpretation applies the word currently to ... Apr 25 2006, 10:08 PM Shrike30 The current IP is also a period. So is the curren... Apr 25 2006, 10:31 PM Kanada Ten And just making them lose their next free action t... Apr 25 2006, 11:20 PM Shrike30 Hey, there ya go. "Full Dodge" to the g... Apr 25 2006, 11:33 PM CONAN9845 I can't believe we are having a debate about t... Apr 26 2006, 02:54 AM Kanada Ten It is applied to all shooting - just look at Full ... Apr 26 2006, 03:21 AM CONAN9845 That doesn't make it wait until the target... Apr 26 2006, 04:39 AM Kanada Ten But it could be treated the same. The only reason... Apr 26 2006, 04:44 AM CONAN9845 Counter to their wording in what way? Apr 26 2006, 05:34 AM Kanada Ten QUOTE Somtimes a character may just use full autof... Apr 26 2006, 05:54 AM CONAN9845 Neither do I. If you don't get hit by it (whe... Apr 26 2006, 06:10 AM Shrike30 QUOTE (Kanada Ten) But it could be treated the sam... Apr 26 2006, 08:35 AM dcpirahna Shrike20, your own examples have the same problems... Apr 26 2006, 02:28 PM Hunga I strongly agree with Shrike30's example and r... Apr 26 2006, 02:56 PM Hunga QUOTE (dcpirahna)Shrike20, your own examples have ... Apr 26 2006, 03:06 PM Aku i'm not sure if i've stated this yet, but ... Apr 26 2006, 03:13 PM James McMurray QUOTE No, they are still at risk. If someone else ... Apr 26 2006, 03:36 PM dcpirahna I honestly don't want to argue it anymore.
By... Apr 26 2006, 03:56 PM James McMurray Yes, your interpreatation leaves the rules intact,... Apr 26 2006, 03:59 PM Aku and i feel that line should be striken anyways. it... Apr 26 2006, 05:23 PM Shrike30 QUOTE (dcpirahna @ Apr 26 2006, 07:56 AM) My ... Apr 26 2006, 05:42 PM James McMurray Sounds like a good idea to me. Apr 26 2006, 06:21 PM Hunga QUOTE (Aku)and i feel that line should be striken ... Apr 26 2006, 07:27 PM Shrike30 I might phrase it:
"Characters in the suppres... Apr 26 2006, 10:36 PM DrowVampyre I'm with Shrike30 on this one, though I think ... Apr 27 2006, 12:42 AM Aku QUOTE (DrowVampyre) I'm with Shrike30 on this ... Apr 27 2006, 01:10 AM
CONAN9845 Personally, I think that the last sentence, ... Apr 27 2006, 01:11 AM  |
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