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> Look at the bow, what do you mean you do 13P?
masterpenguin
post May 27 2006, 12:59 AM
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So, yea... i was making a meatwall troll. Think huntsman meets city ganger... yea, the more i say it the stupider it sounds.

But the concept is not the problem. The problem is the bow. troll has 9 strength, with lvl 2 muscle replacement. So, 11 strength. and that makes a bow, designed for someone with that strength, do 13P damage.

This seems silly to me. I brought it up to the GM, and he thinks its a little odd too. So i brought it up to the group, and they think its stupid.


Is there a hard or soft cap for it, and we just haven't found it? has this been talked to death (havent found anything in here yet) because an availibility 2 weapon should not do more than a fuggin assault cannon.

Or maybe it should? help would be appreciated.

-dender
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- masterpenguin   Look at the bow   May 27 2006, 12:59 AM
- - Kanada Ten   You can make it a lot higher than that! Man, ...   May 27 2006, 01:04 AM
- - blakkie   Also, by my reading, you can only have a rating 6 ...   May 27 2006, 01:09 AM
- - tyranny12   QUOTE (blakkie @ May 26 2006, 08:09 PM) Also,...   May 27 2006, 01:21 AM
- - Glyph   I don't think the rating: 6 cap applies to thi...   May 27 2006, 02:18 AM
- - Jaid   QUOTE (Glyph) I don't think the rating: 6 cap ...   May 27 2006, 03:15 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (Kanada Ten)You can make it a lot higher tha...   May 27 2006, 03:51 AM
- - hyzmarca   Minimum strength is not a rating. It is a minimum ...   May 27 2006, 04:37 AM
- - Aaron   I'm going to play with some math, which may or...   May 27 2006, 05:37 AM
- - Aaron   Oh, and don't forget that we are talking about...   May 27 2006, 05:45 AM
- - James McMurray   The cost for a bow is listed as "Rating x 100...   May 27 2006, 06:00 AM
- - Kanada Ten   I'm picturing a few orks with stingers roostin...   May 27 2006, 06:56 AM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (Aaron)So let's say 396 is the strongest...   May 27 2006, 10:42 AM
- - Nikoli   you forget the part where it goes thrugh the human...   May 27 2006, 01:38 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (Nikoli)[...] dents the panzer behind it. Um...   May 27 2006, 01:42 PM
- - Kanada Ten   What kind of dynamics would be needed to make the ...   May 27 2006, 04:08 PM
- - NightHaunter   Well there'd be no point barbing it. It'll...   May 27 2006, 04:15 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Kanada Ten @ May 27 2006, 10:08 AM) Wh...   May 27 2006, 04:41 PM
- - Nikoli   Maybe design one shot head and shaft combination s...   May 27 2006, 04:50 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Nikoli) Maybe design one shot head and shaf...   May 27 2006, 04:55 PM
- - Nikoli   But a half dozen shaft sections puching out into t...   May 27 2006, 05:14 PM
- - kigmatzomat   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) First, since doubling ...   May 27 2006, 06:04 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (Kanada Ten) What kind of dynamics would be ...   May 27 2006, 07:12 PM
- - Dogsoup   Whenever there's a harpoon gun featured in a f...   May 27 2006, 07:23 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator @ May 27 2006, 01:...   May 27 2006, 08:47 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (blakkie)Broadheads (fixed or mechanicals) a...   May 27 2006, 09:08 PM
- - Shrike30   Why is it silly to think of arrows in terms of arm...   May 29 2006, 10:34 AM
- - Austere Emancipator   Then they created effective firearms and all that ...   May 29 2006, 10:44 AM
- - The Jopp   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) Then they created effe...   May 29 2006, 12:17 PM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) Then they created effe...   May 29 2006, 01:13 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   I included the word "effective" for a re...   May 29 2006, 01:57 PM
- - James McMurray   An arrowhead on a troll sized bow is at least as b...   May 29 2006, 07:16 PM
- - hobgoblin   something tells me this is one more debate that wi...   May 29 2006, 07:19 PM
- - James McMurray   Have any DS debates ever ended?   May 29 2006, 07:42 PM
- - hobgoblin   there are some that basicly go into extended hiber...   May 29 2006, 07:47 PM
- - Butterblume   The thread about trolls and bows comes around regu...   May 29 2006, 08:06 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   This particular bow-topic usually doesn't get ...   May 29 2006, 09:09 PM
- - CrimsonHawk   ok so we have the bow what about the crossbow? I s...   May 29 2006, 09:26 PM
- - Squinky   Going from a magazine of four bolts ( I assume one...   May 30 2006, 03:54 AM
- - Kanada Ten   Full auto, belt feed, explosive fragmentation, roc...   May 30 2006, 04:13 AM
- - Shrike30   Rocket-assist... ooo, best way ever to lose your e...   May 30 2006, 04:32 AM
- - raleel   *sigh* I had a 2 page post on this and firefox cr...   May 30 2006, 06:31 AM
- - Doc-Pond-Water   I do not know the physics all that well, but I hav...   May 30 2006, 08:20 AM
- - raleel   I don't know how custom it would be, because t...   May 30 2006, 04:39 PM
- - blakkie   It wouldn't be a fingers or even fingers with ...   May 30 2006, 07:42 PM
- - Dissonance   Who on earth is making these Strength Ten Bows, in...   May 30 2006, 08:24 PM
- - Kanada Ten   Considering that in the wilds one must deal with c...   May 30 2006, 09:04 PM
- - Shrike30   Considering that AK-98s sell on the street for 500...   May 30 2006, 09:16 PM
- - Butterblume   One clever person I know brought up the idea that ...   May 30 2006, 10:00 PM
- - Jaid   until someone comes up with a machine sprite with ...   May 31 2006, 12:09 AM
- - CrimsonHawk   Considering that AK-98s sell on the street for 500...   May 31 2006, 12:40 AM
- - Tarantula   Your game isn't RAW. To have any basis for di...   May 31 2006, 12:54 AM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (blakkie @ May 30 2006, 02:42 PM) It wo...   May 31 2006, 02:15 AM
- - Dender   QUOTE (Kanada Ten)Full auto, belt feed, explosive ...   Jun 10 2006, 03:55 PM
- - Tarantula   Dender, your cost escallation suggestions are good...   Jun 10 2006, 04:12 PM
- - Nim   QUOTE (Dender) one more question, does an arrow a...   Jun 10 2006, 04:16 PM
- - Nim   QUOTE (Butterblume) One clever person I know broug...   Jun 10 2006, 04:28 PM
- - Butterblume   QUOTE (Nim)The main weak point is that...well, it ...   Jun 10 2006, 10:52 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (Butterblume)After all, even today only a fe...   Jun 10 2006, 11:01 PM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE (Butterblume) Hm, using this reasoning, why ...   Jun 10 2006, 11:09 PM
- - Dissonance   Holy Threadnomancy, Batman! I wasn't bein...   Jun 10 2006, 11:11 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   James McMurray: Neither is more "efficient...   Jun 10 2006, 11:14 PM
- - James McMurray   I wasn't trying to say the analogy was appropr...   Jun 10 2006, 11:22 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   Understood. Should have divided that paragraph.   Jun 10 2006, 11:27 PM
- - Butterblume   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator)James McMurray: Neither...   Jun 10 2006, 11:30 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   In that case, remove the stock and the mount and g...   Jun 10 2006, 11:46 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE The point I was trying to make, is that just...   Jun 11 2006, 07:04 AM
- - Nim   QUOTE (Cain)The physics of making a bow are pretty...   Jun 11 2006, 04:45 PM
- - hyzmarca   One can assume that bows require arrows that are s...   Jun 11 2006, 05:24 PM
- - WorkOver   Why are people so quick to houserule and deny thin...   Jun 11 2006, 05:55 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (hyzmarca)Strength 17 troll bow is equivilan...   Jun 11 2006, 08:27 PM
- - Kremlin KOA   RIGID armor I would remind people that the rigid ...   Jun 12 2006, 09:39 AM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (Kremlin KOA)and remember kevlar armors, eve...   Jun 12 2006, 12:01 PM
- - TBRMInsanity   Key things to point out about bows is that they ar...   Jun 12 2006, 01:45 PM
- - hyzmarca   I would imagine that a max-strength troll bow is t...   Jun 12 2006, 03:07 PM
- - Nim   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) When you're shoot...   Jun 12 2006, 03:23 PM
- - Jaid   QUOTE (hyzmarca) I would imagine that a max-streng...   Jun 12 2006, 03:24 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (Nim)Ah! Okay, so you're basically t...   Jun 12 2006, 04:23 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (hyzmarca) What untill arsenal comes out and...   Jun 12 2006, 04:55 PM
- - Shinobi Killfist   Ignoring the issue of balance of damage or realism...   Jun 12 2006, 08:50 PM
- - fool   yeah but everything else is you applying the stren...   Jun 12 2006, 08:59 PM
- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (fool) yeah but everything else is you apply...   Jun 12 2006, 09:13 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   Easy soloution, then. Just rule that bows do str/...   Jun 12 2006, 10:06 PM
- - Geekkake   I don't know, I don't see any real mechani...   Jun 12 2006, 10:21 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   The rules don't say troll bows fire arrows fas...   Jun 12 2006, 11:55 PM
- - Geekkake   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) The rules don't sa...   Jun 12 2006, 11:58 PM
- - Squinky   They make things today that muffle the sound of th...   Jun 13 2006, 12:28 AM
- - Nikoli   On reading the whole blow-through and naval scale ...   Jun 13 2006, 12:35 AM
- - knasser   I've just read through this entire thread and ...   Jun 13 2006, 07:59 PM
- - Nim   True, knasser. I don't see any particular game...   Jun 13 2006, 08:12 PM
- - TBRMInsanity   The point of the bow is not that your strength pow...   Jun 15 2006, 03:24 PM
- - Nim   QUOTE (TBRMInsanity) The point of the bow is not t...   Jun 15 2006, 03:41 PM
- - hyzmarca   I believe that what TBRMInsanity meant was that a ...   Jun 15 2006, 05:18 PM
- - Nim   QUOTE (hyzmarca) I believe that what TBRMInsanity ...   Jun 15 2006, 05:41 PM
- - Geekkake   [edit]: Nevermind. Friends don't let friends q...   Jun 15 2006, 05:47 PM
- - Nim   QUOTE (Geekkake) I suppose that depends on whethe...   Jun 15 2006, 06:11 PM
- - James McMurray   Big pointy swords should definitely be more damagi...   Jun 15 2006, 06:13 PM
- - Butterblume   QUOTE (Geekkake)I suppose that depends on whether ...   Jun 15 2006, 06:15 PM
- - Nim   QUOTE (Butterblume) Isn't it unhygienic to us...   Jun 15 2006, 06:18 PM
- - Geekkake   QUOTE (Butterblume @ Jun 15 2006, 01:15 PM) Q...   Jun 15 2006, 06:19 PM
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