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ryanstone
post May 30 2006, 05:18 PM
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Hello all,
So I'm about at my wits end with my game and with Shadowrun in general. I could really use some advice on how to handle a situation that arose during my game with weekend.

First, the situation: The party kidnapped a hacker from a bar. In front of a dozen other hackers who ran rampant in the players completely open Comlinks. They then proceeded to murder the woman they kidnaped after she spilled the beans. They then left an NPC to deal with the van and body while they all grabbed grid cabs using their SINs and comlinks to go to another location. They got into another gun fight at the second location and this is where we ended the game.
Here is a big part of my quandry: This is not their first time being wanted for murder.
On their first mission they were supposed to destroy a facility with explosives. However, the Johnson made it clear that the guards did not have to be killed and he would be happier if they weren't. Of course the playes go in with guns blazing and kill all but one of the guards who was sniping them. The security cameras were never disabled and the hacker was brought down so they were not able to erase the camera data. Thus, the run and the slaughter of the guards was on the news as were the character faces. Since it was their first mission I went easy on them and had them lay low for a while and their contacts cut off communication with them for several months while the het died down.

So the players are already wanted for murder from teh first run, then they go and pull something like this. What the heck should I do?

Here is what I think should honestly happen: The hackers at the bar would have called Lonestar as soon as she was kidnapped. Also, they spend a min or two interrogating the hacker they kidnapped, which gave her time to call Lonestar herself in AR, and also hack the vans RFID to broadcast her location to Lonestar. The team does not have a hacker and thus, was not able to intercept her transmissions. So Lonestar is all over the kidnapping and murder within an hour or so. I'm sure they can access gridcab records and track their cab pickup and dropoff location due to all of the users SIN's being given to the police by the hackers who were nosing through their open comlinks.
The players also plan on picking up another cab to leave their current location. I'm sure their SIN's are flagged and Lonestar will be notified as soon as they get into the cab and pay for it with their Comlinks. Lonestar can then get a Tactical team together and set up an ambush site. Lonestar reroutes the cab and tells it to travel to the ambush site and shut down once it gets there, thus, delivering the players right into Lonestar's arms. The characters get tried and convicted and the players roll up new characters. Is this too harsh? Should I give them another chance?
I could go easy on them and have them dogged by Lonestar and runners hired to take them out by friends of the woman they killed, but something is telling me that the players need to be taught a lesson.

Sorry for the really long post, but I'm in a pickle here.
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- ryanstone   My homocidal players. My game. My nightmare   May 30 2006, 05:18 PM
- - Squinky   Do your players understand that they can be tracke...   May 30 2006, 05:34 PM
- - stevebugge   It sounds like these guys have made themselves thi...   May 30 2006, 05:40 PM
- - TBRMInsanity   In this case I would bring in SWAT. Beat the PCs ...   May 30 2006, 05:41 PM
- - stevebugge   Oh the free contact Parole Officer is always a fun...   May 30 2006, 05:44 PM
- - Shrike30   If behaving should be old hat to your players, fee...   May 30 2006, 05:49 PM
- - TBRMInsanity   You can also punish your players but increasing th...   May 30 2006, 05:58 PM
- - mdynna   I agree, start by cutting off their contacts and m...   May 30 2006, 06:14 PM
- - -X-   "Hey guys? Isn't that our safe house on ...   May 30 2006, 06:26 PM
- - James McMurray   This sounds incredibly familiar. Was it part of On...   May 30 2006, 06:29 PM
- - GrinderTheTroll   I'd suggest finding a new group. If that's...   May 30 2006, 06:36 PM
- - ryanstone   Great responses thus far. Thanks for all of the id...   May 30 2006, 07:09 PM
- - Konsaki   Have some of thier houses ransacked by the Star wh...   May 30 2006, 07:26 PM
- - phasmaphobic   Generally, runners like these guys die quickly. T...   May 30 2006, 07:39 PM
- - Shrike30   Saying "the 'Star think you did it, but d...   May 30 2006, 07:48 PM
- - Squinky   Lone Star snipers can make people get unexcited ab...   May 30 2006, 08:10 PM
- - GrinderTheTroll   QUOTE (Squinky) Lone Star snipers can make people ...   May 30 2006, 08:13 PM
- - Konsaki   Squinky, that idea was brought up in another threa...   May 30 2006, 08:14 PM
- - DireRadiant   Did the players know as they were doing this what ...   May 30 2006, 08:16 PM
- - Squinky   QUOTE (Konsaki) Squinky, that idea was brought up ...   May 30 2006, 08:20 PM
- - ryanstone   Really good suggestions! All the "comlin...   May 30 2006, 10:01 PM
- - stevebugge   QUOTE (ryanstone) What is the face recognition sof...   May 30 2006, 10:10 PM
- - Shrike30   QUOTE (ryanstone) Minor gun fights will do nothing...   May 30 2006, 10:40 PM
- - ryanstone   You know Shrike, I may have to houserule that as w...   May 30 2006, 11:02 PM
- - fool   switch games. It sounds like your players would b...   May 31 2006, 12:14 AM
- - Rooks   And these type of runners are what Johnsons dream ...   May 31 2006, 12:51 AM
- - Teulisch   the first thing to do, always, is to sit down with...   May 31 2006, 01:12 AM
- - booklord   If the runners disobeyed the Johnson and killed th...   May 31 2006, 01:34 AM
- - cx2   I seem to recall the core rulebook suggested havin...   May 31 2006, 01:41 AM
- - hyzmarca   Send the Shadowriders after them.   May 31 2006, 01:56 AM
- - Oracle   @ryanstone: Am I right when assuming the name of t...   May 31 2006, 06:46 AM
- - Witness   Give them gel rounds to use in their guns?   May 31 2006, 09:06 AM
- - Crusher Bob   Sigh What should you do? Have fun. Why are the ...   May 31 2006, 10:07 AM
- - NightHaunter   Talk to them, about what they've done wrong, w...   May 31 2006, 01:52 PM
- - booklord   QUOTE Talk to them, about what they've done wr...   May 31 2006, 03:02 PM
- - Paul   Ever watch Heat? That DeNiro and Pacino movie? Gre...   May 31 2006, 03:40 PM
- - the_dunner   Other comments have been good, but I wanted to re-...   May 31 2006, 03:56 PM
- - Chiaroscuro23   I've gotta agree with the others on the second...   May 31 2006, 04:06 PM
- - ryanstone   Very rational responses guys. Thanks. I was disma...   May 31 2006, 05:03 PM
- - shadowbod   Something that I don't think has been mentione...   May 31 2006, 05:15 PM
- - Kesh   ryanstone, sounds like you've got the best sol...   Jun 1 2006, 01:57 AM
- - Wounded Ronin   I think this should have been posted in the genera...   Jun 1 2006, 03:57 AM
- - DireRadiant   QUOTE (ryanstone) Really good suggestions! Al...   Jun 1 2006, 02:10 PM
- - ryanstone   Dire, that is an awesome idea! It's ideas...   Jun 1 2006, 04:59 PM
- - Demon_Bob   Sometime down the road a Hacker group can contact ...   Jun 5 2006, 04:24 AM
- - GB1   if you try everything suggested and they still don...   Jun 5 2006, 06:42 PM
- - Gauvain   I was playing in a game with a bunch of poster chi...   Jun 6 2006, 10:32 PM
- - ryanstone   We are supposed to be finishing up the run this we...   Jun 6 2006, 11:30 PM
- - ornot   I'd have thought Johnson would be somewhat lea...   Jun 7 2006, 12:40 AM
- - Demon_Bob   The Big Troll Johnson with several big troll bodyg...   Jun 7 2006, 03:42 AM
- - ornot   I was thinking that Big Troll Johnson would delay ...   Jun 7 2006, 08:59 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   These guys want to have fun doing Matrix gun-battl...   Jun 7 2006, 09:09 AM


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