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RiotGearEpsilon
post Jul 20 2006, 01:06 AM
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Is there anything stopping Adepts or Magicians from taking the Sensitive System quality? It seems like a win-win scenario for them - after all, they've already got such a strong disincentive to take cyberware that the additional Essence loss seems almost moot.
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- RiotGearEpsilon   "Sensitive System" quality and magic users   Jul 20 2006, 01:06 AM
- - James McMurray   Nothing but the GM deciding if it'll be an act...   Jul 20 2006, 01:20 AM
- - mfb   nothing stopping you, no. i personally don't v...   Jul 20 2006, 01:25 AM
- - RiotGearEpsilon   I admit that I too have been tempted by the glory ...   Jul 20 2006, 01:32 AM
- - James McMurray   It's freebie points because the character conc...   Jul 20 2006, 02:00 AM
- - hyzmarca   Believe me, if I were running a game I would let a...   Jul 20 2006, 02:17 AM
- - ShadowDragon   QUOTE (RiotGearEpsilon) I admit that I too have be...   Jul 20 2006, 02:17 AM
- - toturi   Does canon RAW say no? Unless otherwise instructed...   Jul 20 2006, 02:24 AM
- - James McMurray   Do your street sams frequently find themselves on ...   Jul 20 2006, 02:24 AM
- - mfb   QUOTE (James McMurray)It's freebie points beca...   Jul 20 2006, 02:37 AM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (James McMurray) Do your street sams frequen...   Jul 20 2006, 02:46 AM
- - Samaels Ghost   I play a Hackmage with that very quality. It is a ...   Jul 20 2006, 04:02 AM
- - Jaid   QUOTE (Samaels Ghost) Also Shadowrunning is danger...   Jul 20 2006, 04:35 AM
- - mfb   i've never liked that--at least, i've neve...   Jul 20 2006, 04:49 AM
- - Ophis   They are aslo as yet unsatted in SR4, let's ho...   Jul 20 2006, 07:57 AM
- - SL James   QUOTE (mfb @ Jul 19 2006, 10:49 PM) i've ...   Jul 20 2006, 09:22 AM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (SL James @ Jul 20 2006, 11:22 AM) It...   Jul 20 2006, 10:04 AM
- - Edward   I would allow it. a lightly cybered mage or adept ...   Jul 20 2006, 12:34 PM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE i think i take a much longer view of charact...   Jul 20 2006, 01:48 PM
- - booklord   I'm very picky. Incompetent I only allow if i...   Jul 20 2006, 01:54 PM
- - Thanee   It does limit the character; not a whole lot, but ...   Jul 20 2006, 02:14 PM
- - booklord   QUOTE It does limit the character; not a whole lot...   Jul 20 2006, 02:41 PM
- - James McMurray   First you bitch slap him for trying to take more n...   Jul 20 2006, 02:42 PM
- - booklord   Remind me, what is the limit?   Jul 20 2006, 02:45 PM
- - James McMurray   I don't have a book handy, but IIRC it's 3...   Jul 20 2006, 02:46 PM
- - Wiseman   both advantages and disadvantages are capped at 35...   Jul 20 2006, 02:54 PM
- - James McMurray   Allergies are easy to work in. Sensitive System is...   Jul 20 2006, 03:12 PM
- - Wiseman   True, you'd be a little more underhanded/perma...   Jul 20 2006, 03:16 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   I feel like, in order for Sensitive System to be a...   Jul 20 2006, 03:44 PM
- - James McMurray   Street Sams lose a lot when they forego cyberware....   Jul 20 2006, 04:00 PM
- - Llewelyn   I haven't played SR much prior to SR4, but in ...   Jul 20 2006, 04:31 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (James McMurray) Mages lose very little. ...   Jul 20 2006, 04:35 PM
- - sorcel   QUOTE (James McMurray)Street Sams lose a lot when ...   Jul 20 2006, 04:36 PM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE Obviously you don't, but at least now we...   Jul 20 2006, 04:44 PM
- - mfb   QUOTE (James McMurray)Street Sams lose a lot when ...   Jul 20 2006, 04:57 PM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE (mfb) i don't play SR4 anyway!). ...   Jul 20 2006, 05:09 PM
- - mfb   meh. there's still a lot of other stuff cyber ...   Jul 20 2006, 05:18 PM
- - James McMurray   Unless they have sustaining foci, spirits sustaini...   Jul 20 2006, 05:23 PM
- - Wiseman   I agree that for a mage to say no cyberware (or ma...   Jul 20 2006, 05:23 PM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE (Wiseman) A mage without sensitive system wi...   Jul 20 2006, 05:30 PM
- - mfb   QUOTE (James McMurray)Unless they have sustaining ...   Jul 20 2006, 05:31 PM
- - James McMurray   But you do have to pay money and essence (and ther...   Jul 20 2006, 05:36 PM
- - mfb   you have to pay money, but--especially in SR4--it...   Jul 20 2006, 05:39 PM
- - James McMurray   I agree. It just seems we differ on the magnitude ...   Jul 20 2006, 05:42 PM
- - Llewelyn   QUOTE (Wiseman) (every adventure can't have th...   Jul 20 2006, 05:44 PM
- - Wiseman   It used to be worse, but now you can buy back magi...   Jul 20 2006, 05:47 PM
- - Wiseman   QUOTE (Llewelyn) QUOTE (Wiseman @ Jul 20 2006...   Jul 20 2006, 05:50 PM
- - James McMurray   You could instead spend 18-20 karma on upping your...   Jul 20 2006, 05:51 PM
- - mfb   it's not that they're high, per se--it...   Jul 20 2006, 05:54 PM
- - X-Kalibur   QUOTE (James McMurray @ Jul 20 2006, 12:51 PM...   Jul 20 2006, 05:56 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (X-Kalibur) QUOTE (James McMurray @ Jul...   Jul 20 2006, 06:03 PM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE (mfb) it's not that they're high, pe...   Jul 20 2006, 06:09 PM
- - Wiseman   no mages aren't just mages. eventually any mag...   Jul 20 2006, 06:09 PM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE then you're in a situation where you mig...   Jul 20 2006, 06:12 PM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE (Wiseman) eventually any mage is going to se...   Jul 20 2006, 06:14 PM
- - Wiseman   true. but the fact that they can still means its a...   Jul 20 2006, 06:16 PM
- - James McMurray   We'll just have to agree to disagree on that o...   Jul 20 2006, 06:20 PM
- - Wiseman   I completely see where your coming from and agree....   Jul 20 2006, 06:25 PM
- - James McMurray   True, but there is no cyberware that can give you ...   Jul 20 2006, 06:40 PM
- - Shrike30   One of the main reasons to avoid putting everythin...   Jul 20 2006, 06:43 PM
- - mfb   see, even there, i think it's part of the GM...   Jul 20 2006, 06:46 PM
- - Wiseman   QUOTE (James McMurray @ Jul 20 2006, 01:40 PM...   Jul 20 2006, 06:47 PM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE (Shrike30) One of the main reasons to avoid ...   Jul 20 2006, 06:57 PM
- - Wiseman   Ah I see. Than to that I say, If everyone else h...   Jul 20 2006, 07:02 PM
- - James McMurray   Not having cyberware is not a disadvantage because...   Jul 20 2006, 07:06 PM
- - Wiseman   yea but magic causes drain (and wound modifiers), ...   Jul 20 2006, 07:08 PM
- - Wiseman   Also keep in mind it cost (oddly) 15BP just to mak...   Jul 20 2006, 07:09 PM
- - James McMurray   That Wired Reflexes 2 is costing you a permanent -...   Jul 20 2006, 07:15 PM
- - Shrike30   QUOTE (James McMurray) I think it's pretty saf...   Jul 20 2006, 07:16 PM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE earplug that functions properly when there...   Jul 20 2006, 07:24 PM
- - Wiseman   QUOTE (James McMurray) That Wired Reflexes 2 is co...   Jul 20 2006, 07:34 PM
- - James McMurray   I guess the "I can make a more BP expensive m...   Jul 20 2006, 07:36 PM
- - Wiseman   I'll try one more time. A Mage can spend les...   Jul 20 2006, 07:49 PM
- - Wiseman   If I have cybereyes and you don't and were bot...   Jul 20 2006, 07:53 PM
- - Cynic project   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig) QUOTE (SL James @ ...   Jul 20 2006, 07:53 PM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE So either he pays double or never sees a mov...   Jul 20 2006, 08:06 PM
- - Wiseman   again, can't refute most of that. But honestl...   Jul 20 2006, 08:21 PM
- - Shrike30   James: The only microphones I'm seeing listed ...   Jul 20 2006, 08:21 PM
- - James McMurray   Wiseman: again, your spells are already active. Th...   Jul 20 2006, 08:44 PM
- - Wiseman   Nah buddy. Your mage has enough warning to cast a...   Jul 20 2006, 08:58 PM
- - sorcel   QUOTE (James McMurray)Again, I'm not saying th...   Jul 20 2006, 09:02 PM
- - mfb   QUOTE (Wiseman)SS Mage doesn't NEED cyberware,...   Jul 20 2006, 09:06 PM
- - Shrike30   Bullets don't usually destroy gear, etc. Expl...   Jul 20 2006, 09:08 PM
- - Wiseman   think sorcel hit it on the head. mfb - your right...   Jul 20 2006, 09:16 PM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE Your mage has enough warning to cast an acti...   Jul 20 2006, 09:18 PM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE (Wiseman) mfb - your right. but that is the ...   Jul 20 2006, 09:19 PM
- - Wiseman   truce. As for the sustained focus that has its ow...   Jul 20 2006, 09:20 PM
- - Mr. Unpronounceable   pft...I know it's bio, but the sleep regulator...   Jul 20 2006, 09:23 PM
- - James McMurray   I don't think a sustaining focus is as bad as ...   Jul 20 2006, 09:25 PM
- - mfb   a sustaining focus is much more expensive than a P...   Jul 20 2006, 09:31 PM
- - James McMurray   True, but not really material to the discussion at...   Jul 20 2006, 09:42 PM
- - Wiseman   QUOTE (James McMurray) I don't think a sustain...   Jul 20 2006, 10:27 PM
- - James McMurray   Ah, sorry. So having a focus is exactly as dangero...   Jul 21 2006, 12:33 AM
- - mfb   QUOTE (James McMurray)and if I've got contacts...   Jul 21 2006, 01:18 AM
- - Brahm   QUOTE (mfb @ Jul 19 2006, 09:37 PM) i think i...   Jul 21 2006, 01:19 AM
- - James McMurray   I have worn contacts. I took them off once every c...   Jul 21 2006, 01:20 AM
- - mfb   ...what did you do, in those contacts? because i h...   Jul 21 2006, 01:23 AM
- - James McMurray   Regular every day soft, daily wear lenses. I was s...   Jul 21 2006, 01:31 AM
- - Demon_Bob   QUOTE (James McMurray) Incompetent: Subspace Pilot...   Jul 21 2006, 02:41 AM
- - mfb   QUOTE (James McMurray)I imagine 2070 Shadowrun len...   Jul 21 2006, 03:14 AM
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