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The Jopp
post Aug 17 2006, 07:46 AM
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(EDIT: DOH, Meant Machine pistols in the header, not SMG.)

Ok, after reading about the gun and made some calculation about the "supposed" size of this weapon, ammo capacity, firing modes etc - and then comparing it to Machine Pistols I'm more and more convinced that this weapon was supposed to be in the Machine Pistols section instead of Light Pistols.

It's basically a MP in a light pistol package - and TONS more efficient that the other ones - ok, the pricetag is steep and somewhat unrealistic but not even that justifies the efficiency and especially the -2 concealability modifier.
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- The Jopp   Yamaha Sakura Fubuki...SMG?   Aug 17 2006, 07:46 AM
- - Samaels Ghost   I think it's classified as that because of it...   Aug 17 2006, 08:06 AM
- - The Jopp   QUOTE (Samaels Ghost) I think it's classified ...   Aug 17 2006, 08:22 AM
- - SCARed   QUOTE (The Jopp)Awesome recoil? It has NO recoil o...   Aug 17 2006, 09:01 AM
- - The Jopp   QUOTE (SCARed @ Aug 17 2006, 09:01 AM) conce...   Aug 17 2006, 09:07 AM
- - Adarael   Know what's more awesome? An Ares Alpha with ...   Aug 17 2006, 10:48 AM
- - The Jopp   Well, my argument against the Fubuki is mainly the...   Aug 17 2006, 11:04 AM
- - Aaron   When I do up stats for the Sakura Fubuki, I just c...   Aug 17 2006, 03:22 PM
- - Slithery D   It's not really an MP at all. It's a futur...   Aug 17 2006, 03:27 PM
- - FanGirl   QUOTE (SCARed) QUOTE (The Jopp)Awesome recoil? It ...   Aug 17 2006, 03:55 PM
- - hobgoblin   i could have sworn that i have seen this discussio...   Aug 17 2006, 03:57 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   Well not this exact discussion, but I know I'v...   Aug 17 2006, 03:58 PM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (FanGirl) QUOTE (SCARed @ Aug 17 2006, ...   Aug 17 2006, 04:07 PM
- - Shrike30   Unlike a machine pistol, the YSF is only capable o...   Aug 17 2006, 04:17 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (Shrike30) Besides, loading half your barrel...   Aug 17 2006, 04:20 PM
- - X-Kalibur   QUOTE (hyzmarca) QUOTE (FanGirl @ Aug 17 2006...   Aug 17 2006, 04:27 PM
- - Ravor   Well considering that it is possible to Gas Vent P...   Aug 17 2006, 05:12 PM
- - Dr. Dodge   man the picture of the YSF just confuses the hell ...   Aug 17 2006, 05:44 PM
- - Shrike30   QUOTE (Ravor) Well considering that it is possible...   Aug 17 2006, 06:05 PM
- - Slithery D   QUOTE (Dr. Dodge) man the picture of the YSF just ...   Aug 17 2006, 06:44 PM
- - Lagomorph   QUOTE (Ravor) Well considering that it is possible...   Aug 17 2006, 08:45 PM
- - LilithTaveril   Considering it's four barrels, is it possible ...   Aug 17 2006, 09:25 PM
- - Samaels Ghost   QUOTE (LilithTaveril) Considering it's four ba...   Aug 17 2006, 09:30 PM
- - James McMurray   I thought it worked by firing one round from each ...   Aug 17 2006, 09:32 PM
- - LilithTaveril   QUOTE (Samaels Ghost) QUOTE (LilithTaveril @ ...   Aug 17 2006, 09:34 PM
- - Samaels Ghost   Maybe I misunderstood. I think what James describe...   Aug 17 2006, 09:40 PM
- - LilithTaveril   He has it firing four shots at once and I have it ...   Aug 17 2006, 10:54 PM
- - Samaels Ghost   I thought they fired one after another in rapid su...   Aug 17 2006, 10:58 PM
- - LilithTaveril   And there's interpretation #3.   Aug 17 2006, 11:00 PM
- - hobgoblin   and then there is bbb-bbb-bbb-bbb, or bbb from a s...   Aug 17 2006, 11:15 PM
- - Lagomorph   don't forget Phthbtbtbtbbt too   Aug 17 2006, 11:47 PM
- - The Jopp   Personligen så tycker jag den låter antingen: BRP...   Aug 18 2006, 08:46 AM
- - The Jopp   The funny thing is that it has four barrels, and a...   Aug 18 2006, 08:49 AM
- - Oracle   Other interpretation: You need four gas vents to r...   Aug 18 2006, 09:20 AM
- - LilithTaveril   Now, if they introduce two more gas vents with the...   Aug 18 2006, 09:22 AM
- - hyzmarca   Consdering that it is based on Metal Storm, it sho...   Aug 18 2006, 11:18 AM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (The Jopp) It will cost a LOT since you need...   Aug 18 2006, 11:22 AM
- - LilithTaveril   Which, if you're smart, you'll pick up aft...   Aug 18 2006, 11:27 AM
- - The Jopp   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig) QUOTE (The Jopp @ ...   Aug 18 2006, 11:31 AM
- - RunnerPaul   QUOTE (LilithTaveril) Which, if you're smart, ...   Aug 18 2006, 11:36 AM
- - LilithTaveril   QUOTE (RunnerPaul @ Aug 18 2006, 06:36 AM) QU...   Aug 18 2006, 11:46 AM
- - LilithTaveril   Page 312, Reloading firearms. Complex action to re...   Aug 18 2006, 11:54 AM
- - Smokeskin   That stick over the fubuki pic is probably a stack...   Aug 18 2006, 12:01 PM
- - LilithTaveril   So, basically, treat it like a weapon with multipl...   Aug 18 2006, 12:04 PM
- - RunnerPaul   QUOTE (LilithTaveril) Oh, and looking it up, the g...   Aug 18 2006, 12:07 PM
- - RunnerPaul   QUOTE (LilithTaveril @ Aug 18 2006, 06:54 AM)...   Aug 18 2006, 12:11 PM
- - The Jopp   QUOTE (LilithTaveril) Oh, and looking it up, the ...   Aug 18 2006, 12:18 PM
- - LilithTaveril   QUOTE (The Jopp @ Aug 18 2006, 07:18 AM) QUOT...   Aug 18 2006, 12:25 PM
- - Smokeskin   @Lilith: no.   Aug 18 2006, 12:31 PM
- - LilithTaveril   Simply saying "no" is not an answer. It...   Aug 18 2006, 12:32 PM
- - The Jopp   QUOTE (LilithTaveril) Now, I'm willing to be...   Aug 18 2006, 12:34 PM
- - LilithTaveril   QUOTE (The Jopp) QUOTE (LilithTaveril @ Aug 1...   Aug 18 2006, 12:37 PM
- - RunnerPaul   Long Bursts are described under the "Full Aut...   Aug 18 2006, 12:42 PM
- - LilithTaveril   RunnerPaul, provide me with a rules quote that sup...   Aug 18 2006, 12:49 PM
- - Oracle   He is right, you are wrong.   Aug 18 2006, 12:50 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (SR4v3 @ p 307, Yamaha Sakura Fubuki)T...   Aug 18 2006, 12:55 PM
- - LilithTaveril   Well, nice to know that the standard of evidence i...   Aug 18 2006, 12:55 PM
- - RunnerPaul   QUOTE (LilithTaveril) RunnerPaul, provide me with ...   Aug 18 2006, 12:57 PM
- - LilithTaveril   QUOTE (RunnerPaul @ Aug 18 2006, 07:57 AM) QU...   Aug 18 2006, 01:00 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (LilithTaveril)Nope. On the contrary: QUOTE...   Aug 18 2006, 01:03 PM
- - LilithTaveril   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig @ Aug 18 2006, 08:0...   Aug 18 2006, 01:13 PM
- - RunnerPaul   If I may direct attention to "Not enough Bull...   Aug 18 2006, 01:17 PM
- - LilithTaveril   Okay, I have a simple question: Why the hell would...   Aug 18 2006, 01:24 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (LilithTaveril)If I can't read, then how...   Aug 18 2006, 01:24 PM
- - LilithTaveril   Because the term "ultra-fast" can be gam...   Aug 18 2006, 01:30 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   And the therm 'short' can't be fluff? ...   Aug 18 2006, 01:41 PM
- - LilithTaveril   Don't you mean "double-think?" And, ...   Aug 18 2006, 01:44 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (RunnerPaul)Barring additional clarification...   Aug 18 2006, 01:49 PM
- - Butterblume   QUOTE (LilithTaveril)Don't you mean "doub...   Aug 18 2006, 01:58 PM
- - RunnerPaul   QUOTE (LilithTaveril @ Aug 18 2006, 08:24 AM)...   Aug 18 2006, 01:58 PM
- - LilithTaveril   Butterblume, because short-bursts used to be the t...   Aug 18 2006, 02:06 PM
- - RunnerPaul   QUOTE (LilithTaveril) RunnerPaul, then they have a...   Aug 18 2006, 02:12 PM
- - LilithTaveril   And then not going on to define it until after we ...   Aug 18 2006, 02:16 PM
- - Smokeskin   @Lilith: no.   Aug 18 2006, 02:36 PM
- - LilithTaveril   Smokeskin, do you get off on posting random commen...   Aug 18 2006, 02:42 PM
- - Butterblume   QUOTE (LilithTaveril)Butterblume, because short-bu...   Aug 18 2006, 02:45 PM
- - Smokeskin   @Lilith: no. Sorry, couldn't resist it Look...   Aug 18 2006, 02:59 PM
- - LilithTaveril   Okay, I'm sigging that comment Sorry about...   Aug 18 2006, 03:05 PM
- - ARKARY   Not to butt in on anyone's lovely argument, bu...   Aug 18 2006, 04:00 PM
- - Butterblume   QUOTE (ARKARY)As for the Fubuki's recoil/BF ca...   Aug 18 2006, 05:56 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (Butterblume)Arranging the 4 barrels in a sq...   Aug 18 2006, 06:04 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   You can stick 2 small/medium caliber pistol barrel...   Aug 18 2006, 06:14 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   Sure - but why stop there?   Aug 18 2006, 06:15 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   Where?   Aug 18 2006, 06:16 PM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) The YSF would, unless ...   Aug 18 2006, 06:23 PM
- - Lagomorph   @Austere: You're missing a www. in your link, ...   Aug 18 2006, 06:23 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   Odd. The link only works for me without www.   Aug 18 2006, 07:19 PM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) Odd. The link only wor...   Aug 18 2006, 07:25 PM
- - Lagomorph   QUOTE (James McMurray) QUOTE (Austere Emancipator ...   Aug 18 2006, 07:39 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator)Where? By making it onl...   Aug 18 2006, 08:02 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   Because that would involve making it much longer, ...   Aug 18 2006, 08:05 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   Sure, to some extent - but flatness adds to carryi...   Aug 18 2006, 08:32 PM
- - Shrike30   Seeing as how we don't have any guns whose for...   Aug 18 2006, 08:57 PM
- - Lagomorph   http://www.videosift.com/story.php?id=5231 The gu...   Aug 18 2006, 09:43 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   I take it, then, that you couldn't view the im...   Aug 18 2006, 09:46 PM
- - Lagomorph   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) I take it, then, that ...   Aug 18 2006, 09:54 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   Okay. Just to be clear the image is of the exact s...   Aug 18 2006, 10:07 PM
- - hobgoblin   i think the last discussion about this gun landed ...   Aug 19 2006, 12:39 AM
- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (James McMurray) QUOTE (Austere Emancipator ...   Aug 19 2006, 12:42 AM
- - ronin3338   QUOTE (Lagomorph) http://www.videosift.com/story.p...   Aug 19 2006, 01:22 AM
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