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Ok, so I see, and have read, the previous thread and it doesn't seem to come to a conclusion.

To me, "Every point of Magic invested in mana-based abilities grants the character one point to use with Magic-based skills." explains it.

But the next parts, "For all other purposes, including the determination of
the maximum level for adept powers, the character’s full Magic
attribute is used. Such a character will not have as many adept
powers as most other adepts, nor will they be able to cast spells
with the same skill as true magicians." really throw it for a loop.

Yes, I understand it's the GM's call, but a maximum force of 2 and 12 really do not compare. (1 and 6 w/out overcasting)

And it says "can not cast spells with the same skill..." Is that literaly skill or not?

For some background, the character in question is a (cool concept) antimagic mystic adept, and his only spell is Mana Static, which relies on successes(which is dependent on force) and a ruling one way can change everything the other way.

I just want to get some clear logic(or if there has been an official ruling? I feel like this is hackmaster now, heh). But also, is the Mystic Adept with a Magic of 1 for spellcasting weakened enough with his max force being based off of his total attribute and missing a few dice on the rolls, or not? This, of course, barring an official ruling. I don't want to make the character not fun to play(although he swears left and right he'll change it if he needs to).

Thanks everyone, it's been forever since I've been on the forums!
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- bahwi   Mystic Adept/Maximum Force   Aug 28 2006, 09:46 PM
- - FanGirl   Here's what it says right above the text you q...   Aug 28 2006, 10:07 PM
- - Samothrake   QUOTE (bahwi)"Such a character will not have ...   Aug 28 2006, 10:20 PM
- - bahwi   QUOTE (FanGirl) What this means (unless I'm ve...   Aug 28 2006, 10:27 PM
- - bahwi   QUOTE (Samothrake) I read that line in a totally d...   Aug 28 2006, 10:29 PM
- - Slithery D   So what's at issue is what it means to say ...   Aug 28 2006, 10:30 PM
- - bahwi   QUOTE (Slithery D) I have to think your total Magi...   Aug 28 2006, 10:33 PM
- - Demerzel   To sum up: So we know Mystic Adepts get (Magic - ...   Aug 28 2006, 11:05 PM
- - Cabral   When I played in the SR Tourney, with, I believe a...   Aug 29 2006, 12:33 AM
- - Demerzel   Well I'm not sure I'm going to take much f...   Aug 29 2006, 01:34 AM
- - bahwi   QUOTE (Demerzel) I do think however that the sampl...   Aug 29 2006, 03:18 AM
- - Glyph   At this point, a GM could rule either way. I woul...   Aug 29 2006, 03:35 AM
- - Jaid   someone emailed this question in a while back. i t...   Aug 29 2006, 03:38 AM
- - Cabral   QUOTE (Demerzel) Well I'm not sure I'm goi...   Aug 29 2006, 03:51 AM
- - Demerzel   Well, then if that is the case then this needs to ...   Aug 29 2006, 04:40 AM
- - Jaid   if you don't like it and don't want to do ...   Aug 29 2006, 04:57 AM
- - bahwi   Thanks for the links, very informative. Now I...   Aug 29 2006, 05:09 AM
- - Demerzel   Bahwi, don't take Jaid's statement persona...   Aug 29 2006, 01:44 PM
- - bahwi   Yeah, sorry, didn't mean to make it sound like...   Aug 29 2006, 05:03 PM
- - Demerzel   In your playtesting it will matter a lot how you p...   Aug 29 2006, 05:52 PM
- - bahwi   Yeah, definately. Something I need to think about....   Aug 29 2006, 09:58 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   Perhaps in this case it would be better to just us...   Aug 29 2006, 10:03 PM
- - Demerzel   I got the impression from his other trheads that h...   Aug 29 2006, 10:10 PM
- - bahwi   Yeah, he's doing counterspelling IIRC on the c...   Aug 29 2006, 10:11 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   An antimagic adept could make an interesting tradi...   Aug 29 2006, 10:20 PM
- - Demerzel   Well, this is going way off topic, but the Mystic ...   Aug 29 2006, 10:31 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   Good call. Probably a more elegant solution.   Aug 29 2006, 10:34 PM
- - lorechaser   Mountain. +2 to counterspelling, +2 to earth spir...   Aug 30 2006, 12:42 AM
- - Cabral   Alternatively, you could write it up as an Aspecte...   Aug 30 2006, 12:43 AM
- - lorechaser   I'd say it's a -5 for mystic adepts, and -...   Aug 30 2006, 01:11 AM
- - Cabral   That isn't really fitting with the way they wo...   Aug 30 2006, 01:15 AM
- - Mekalus   Ok I am the aforementioned character. Thought I wo...   Sep 3 2006, 11:56 AM
- - lorechaser   You're actually -10 on Qualities, based on thi...   Sep 3 2006, 04:25 PM
- - Demerzel   You're short changing yourselfo n knowledge sk...   Sep 3 2006, 05:53 PM
- - Mekalus   Ah whoops sorry left Aptitude out and thanks for t...   Sep 4 2006, 05:59 AM
- - Demerzel   Edit: Nevermind.   Sep 4 2006, 04:12 PM
- - Jaid   SINner is an adept power?   Sep 4 2006, 04:32 PM
- - lorechaser   You haven't seen all the recent references to ...   Sep 4 2006, 04:55 PM
- - Demerzel   Very little downside except that it's not what...   Sep 4 2006, 05:49 PM
- - Demerzel   25 (Dwarf) + 195 (Attributes) + 158 (Skills) = 378...   Sep 4 2006, 05:52 PM
- - lorechaser   Lost ability to initiate?   Sep 4 2006, 06:00 PM
- - Demerzel   You can initiate, but now you can't use that a...   Sep 4 2006, 06:03 PM
- - Jaid   QUOTE (Demerzel) You can initiate, but now you can...   Sep 4 2006, 06:46 PM
- - lorechaser   That's pretty much my argument, yeah. You can...   Sep 4 2006, 06:58 PM
- - Mekalus   OK editted once more and added in the things I lef...   Sep 8 2006, 07:46 AM


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