Sep 4 2006, 12:25 PM
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Well, taking a second thought on the SR4 cyberware/bioware augmentation rules, I realize that from an OOC point of view, the game is finally evolving away from its hard-core '80s "chrome" cyberpunk aesthetic and embracing some of the '90s postcyberpunk/transhumanist "genetic engineering" one, and from an IC POV, it seems like the setting shows a healthy technological evolution drive that mirrors RL advances. I mean the fact that traditional chrome cyberware appears posed to soon go the way of the dodo and the horse-buggy: even now in the 2070s, bioware is already more essence-friendly, can do almost everything cyberware does (except senseware and datajacks), has (likely) less maintenance requirements with self-repair abilities, and is much more subtle (no likelihood of being spotted by cyberware detectors). The only residual advantage of cyberware is price. Moreover, most of the functions where cyberware cannot be substituted by biological augmentations, can generally be substituted by external miniaturized gadgets (e.g. contact lenses, earbuds, electrodes), if one does not bother with the remote possibility of being stripped of.
This to mean that even now, I see cyberware as a definitely obsolete, residual technology that characters should be moved to use only by entry-level budget and artificial availability limitations (in the case that one even bothers to heed the character creation 'ware availiability thresholds; I don't. Budget limits are more than enough for game balance concerns). It's not something that I expect successful corporate operatives and runners to have or keep in the long term. Apart from money, I cannot see any IC reason why a character should choose or keep cyberware over bioware, when the biological alternative is available. The days of chrome cyberlimbs are numbered... Consequences for the game setting: apart from aesthetic ones: much less people wearing obvious cyberware in the streets, which makes for a less alienating social environment, which might not be a bad thing, as it lets the game setting keep pace with source fiction, it makes augmented people much more subtle: in the 2070s, if a normal-looking person suddenly shows superhuman strength or speed, is he an adept or augmented with bioware ? Moreover, in all likelihood, bioware is much less burdensome to the psyche, so 'ware alienation is less of a personal and social concern. Last but not leats, bioware is less burdensome to essence and less socially alienating, so it is more likely that people other than combat, infiltration, or matrix specialists may be interested in having it. More likelihood of hybridization between magic and bioware, for one thing. |
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Wanderer Personal augmentation: keeping up with the times Sep 4 2006, 12:25 PM
Rotbart van Dainig If by 'chrome' you mean nano-generated mat... Sep 4 2006, 12:30 PM
Firewall I think what they mean is like the Deus Ex theme. ... Sep 4 2006, 12:57 PM
hobgoblin QUOTE (wtf? When did ties become punk?)
hell if i... Sep 4 2006, 01:14 PM
Wanderer QUOTE (Firewall @ Sep 4 2006, 01:57 PM) What ... Sep 4 2006, 01:19 PM
lorechaser 1. Good post.
2. There's still a certain am... Sep 4 2006, 04:36 PM
Xenefungus Obviously Bioware is better and will be used by mo... Sep 4 2006, 05:03 PM
Rotbart van Dainig QUOTE (Wanderer) I chalk nanoware and geneware up ... Sep 4 2006, 05:24 PM
Conskill Keep in mind the economics of augmentation as well... Sep 4 2006, 07:31 PM
Wanderer QUOTE (Conskill) Keep in mind the economics of aug... Sep 4 2006, 08:48 PM
Butterblume Prize does matter, especially if you don't pla... Sep 4 2006, 08:51 PM
lorechaser QUOTE (Wanderer) And I reckon that a corp executiv... Sep 4 2006, 08:56 PM
knasser I would like to see more reasonable rules for cybe... Sep 4 2006, 09:39 PM
Samaels Ghost QUOTE (knasser @ Sep 4 2006, 04:39 PM) I woul... Sep 4 2006, 09:59 PM
Wanderer QUOTE (knasser) I would like to see more reasonabl... Sep 4 2006, 10:01 PM
Cabral I believe in previous SR resources it has been sti... Sep 4 2006, 10:07 PM
knasser QUOTE (Wanderer)
I sincerely doubt that any degre... Sep 4 2006, 10:23 PM
hyzmarca By canon, it can. The max armor rating of a cybert... Sep 4 2006, 10:51 PM
Wanderer Indeed; criticizable as it may be, the maximum arm... Sep 4 2006, 11:24 PM
WhiskeyMac In the description of bioware though it states tha... Sep 4 2006, 11:25 PM
Wanderer QUOTE (WhiskeyMac @ Sep 5 2006, 12:25 AM) Chr... Sep 4 2006, 11:43 PM
cx2 On the corp sec front, the guy who runs security f... Sep 5 2006, 02:59 AM
kzt QUOTE (WhiskeyMac) Orthoskin should but it would h... Sep 5 2006, 03:09 AM
Protagonist QUOTE (Wanderer)This to mean that even now, I see ... Sep 5 2006, 04:45 AM
Ranneko Indeed, cyber is not restricted to the theoretical... Sep 5 2006, 04:53 AM
cx2 And the only thing in the SR4 BBB that would allow... Sep 5 2006, 04:56 AM
kzt QUOTE (cx2) And the only thing in the SR4 BBB that... Sep 5 2006, 05:32 AM
WhiskeyMac You do realize they would have to grow a whole BOD... Sep 5 2006, 05:36 AM
hyzmarca QUOTE (WhiskeyMac) You do realize they would have ... Sep 5 2006, 05:53 AM
Samaels Ghost QUOTE (hyzmarca) QUOTE (WhiskeyMac @ Sep 5 20... Sep 5 2006, 06:31 AM
Cabral QUOTE (Protagonist) For instance with bioware, I c... Sep 5 2006, 06:37 AM
Samaels Ghost You never know. If she turns out to be an assassin... Sep 5 2006, 06:39 AM
Cabral That or for mentally scarring Sex Ed classes ... Sep 5 2006, 06:49 AM
MYST1C The recent German releases (München Noir and the e... Sep 5 2006, 09:08 AM
Wanderer QUOTE (Protagonist)QUOTE (Wanderer)This to mean th... Sep 5 2006, 10:06 AM
Rotbart van Dainig QUOTE (Wanderer) As for the cyber-only functions, ... Sep 5 2006, 10:28 AM
cx2 Thanks for pointing out the limb replacement thing... Sep 5 2006, 11:42 AM
The Jopp One thing that they state in the BBB is that cyber... Sep 5 2006, 11:53 AM
Warmaster Lah This was a good topic. My 2 cents.
I forsee the ... Sep 5 2006, 09:18 PM
Shrike30 The thing is, though... I would like cyber to have... Sep 5 2006, 09:25 PM
2bit totally agree.. the thing CP2020 did best was get ... Sep 5 2006, 09:48 PM
Rotbart van Dainig I so hope for the impact of Dr. Halberstam had on ... Sep 5 2006, 09:53 PM
Shrike30 Would you mind refreshing my memory on that? Sep 6 2006, 03:58 PM
Rotbart van Dainig Dr. Halberstam was a consultant for the MCT Wetwar... Sep 6 2006, 04:37 PM
lorechaser In d20 Cyberscape, they include craziness like qua... Sep 6 2006, 06:12 PM
Shrike30 I'm not sure that humans are built light enoug... Sep 6 2006, 06:40 PM
Dale Blatant cyberware is also part of an image, and wh... Sep 6 2006, 07:23 PM![]() ![]() |
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