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JongWK
post Sep 11 2006, 05:17 PM
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After this post on theRPGsite, I was wondering what's the opinion here. So, what do you think?
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- JongWK   Is Shadowrun an unequal world?   Sep 11 2006, 05:17 PM
- - Backgammon   Uh, I don't know who that guy is, but obviousl...   Sep 11 2006, 05:34 PM
- - JongWK   QUOTE (Backgammon) Uh, I don't know who that g...   Sep 11 2006, 05:42 PM
- - SL James   QUOTE (JongWK @ Sep 11 2006, 11:17 AM) After ...   Sep 11 2006, 05:53 PM
- - Grinder   Discrimination, racism, unequality - that's al...   Sep 11 2006, 06:19 PM
- - Chrome Shadow   In my opinion is an unequal world; just like the r...   Sep 11 2006, 06:34 PM
- - SL James   Then again, come on, this is the same game where t...   Sep 11 2006, 06:46 PM
- - hyzmarca   Saying that SR isn't racist because a troll is...   Sep 11 2006, 07:05 PM
- - eidolon   QUOTE (SL James) Shit. Sure. The ultra-liberal bia...   Sep 11 2006, 07:28 PM
- - emo samurai   So what wouldn't be "bullshit liberal bia...   Sep 11 2006, 07:33 PM
- - Backgammon   I agree that the SR books are putting less and les...   Sep 11 2006, 08:29 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ..letsee. Just a few examples (SR3 basis) Th...   Sep 11 2006, 08:51 PM
- - knasser   I'm kind of surprised that people are saying t...   Sep 11 2006, 08:51 PM
- - eidolon   I've always noted it in the main books, 1st, 2...   Sep 11 2006, 08:54 PM
- - Kagetenshi   I'm going to have to agree. Shadowrun underpla...   Sep 11 2006, 09:14 PM
- - Apathy   QUOTE (hyzmarca) What everyone should look at is t...   Sep 11 2006, 09:23 PM
- - Slithery D   QUOTE (Apathy @ Sep 11 2006, 04:23 PM) Unlike...   Sep 11 2006, 09:38 PM
- - Conskill   QUOTE (Slithery D @ Sep 11 2006, 02:38 PM) QU...   Sep 11 2006, 09:57 PM
- - eidolon   QUOTE (Kagetenshi)Shadowrun underplays the racism ...   Sep 12 2006, 12:15 AM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Apathy) Stupid question: would it be racist...   Sep 12 2006, 01:16 AM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (eidolon)Are you speaking of the source mate...   Sep 12 2006, 02:32 AM
- - eidolon   QUOTE (Kagetenshi)That which is common in the game...   Sep 12 2006, 02:53 AM
- - Apathy   Has anyone else become uncomfortable in a gaming s...   Sep 12 2006, 04:22 AM
- - SL James   QUOTE (emo samurai @ Sep 11 2006, 01:33 PM) S...   Sep 12 2006, 04:25 AM
- - Critias   Since first edition, Humanis has been treated like...   Sep 12 2006, 04:55 AM
- - Arethusa   I would say the same sort of comic, facile simplic...   Sep 12 2006, 05:09 AM
- - mfb   i agree with the poster. his point isn't that ...   Sep 12 2006, 05:10 AM
- - eidolon   I had a longer post ready, and I may post it later...   Sep 12 2006, 05:16 AM
- - mfb   hey, it's a glandular problem! edit: i se...   Sep 12 2006, 05:18 AM
- - eidolon   The one with its arm sticking out at about a 45 de...   Sep 12 2006, 05:41 AM
- - mfb   nazis? nazis are 99% of the problem. they make thi...   Sep 12 2006, 05:43 AM
- - Critias   Eidolon -- do you actually have something to say, ...   Sep 12 2006, 05:47 AM
- - eidolon   Not my point. A good point, but not my point.   Sep 12 2006, 05:47 AM
- - mfb   then... what is? you can't say "that...   Sep 12 2006, 05:48 AM
- - eidolon   Apologies, but I'm not sure I want to take the...   Sep 12 2006, 05:57 AM
- - mfb   a'ight. so, yeah. i agree with the guys who s...   Sep 12 2006, 06:08 AM
- - Critias   Upon reflection, it might seem like there are some...   Sep 12 2006, 06:14 AM
- - eidolon   QUOTE (SL James)Looking at books like Loose Allian...   Sep 12 2006, 06:16 AM
- - mfb   QUOTE (eidolon)Quite true. Perhaps that has someth...   Sep 12 2006, 06:22 AM
- - mfb   i'm gonna double-post, which i don't norma...   Sep 12 2006, 06:49 AM
- - knasser   QUOTE (Apathy @ Sep 11 2006, 11:22 PM) Has an...   Sep 12 2006, 10:15 AM
- - knasser   QUOTE (eidolon @ Sep 12 2006, 12:41 AM) I had...   Sep 12 2006, 10:51 AM
- - Critias   I've known James long enough to be convinced h...   Sep 12 2006, 11:37 AM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (eidolon @ Sep 11 2006, 09:53 PM) So yo...   Sep 12 2006, 12:04 PM
- - knasser   EDIT   Sep 12 2006, 12:29 PM
- - Demonseed Elite   I'm surprised Saito hasn't been mentioned ...   Sep 12 2006, 02:24 PM
- - Witness   QUOTE (Shadowrun Official Fiction Guidelines)DON...   Sep 12 2006, 02:40 PM
- - Apathy   QUOTE (Critias) Certain racial/ethnic groups score...   Sep 12 2006, 03:37 PM
- - Witness   Stephen J Gould's argument was that intelligen...   Sep 12 2006, 04:00 PM
- - mfb   QUOTE (Kagetenshi)You know better than that. The N...   Sep 12 2006, 04:21 PM
- - JongWK   Here's a thought: could it be that some people...   Sep 12 2006, 04:24 PM
- - mfb   that's fine. nobody has to play a racist PC. b...   Sep 12 2006, 04:28 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (JongWK) Here's a thought: could it be t...   Sep 12 2006, 04:33 PM
- - Witness   I think the books convey a world rife with prejudi...   Sep 12 2006, 04:40 PM
- - mfb   except that lots of runners come from environments...   Sep 12 2006, 04:53 PM
- - Critias   QUOTE (Apathy @ Sep 12 2006, 10:37 AM) QUOTE ...   Sep 12 2006, 04:54 PM
- - Witness   QUOTE (mfb)except that lots of runners come from e...   Sep 12 2006, 04:58 PM
- - mfb   which is exactly the problem.   Sep 12 2006, 05:02 PM
- - Witness   So are you arguing that the SR books aren't re...   Sep 12 2006, 05:04 PM
- - mfb   neither. i take issue with the fact that racism in...   Sep 12 2006, 05:07 PM
- - Critias   I wouldn't say they're unrealistic, merely...   Sep 12 2006, 05:09 PM
- - KarmaInferno   I think racism as presented in SR is fine. You wan...   Sep 12 2006, 05:19 PM
- - Critias   QUOTE (KarmaInferno) Can you imagine the public ba...   Sep 12 2006, 05:23 PM
- - Witness   QUOTE (mfb @ Sep 12 2006, 12:07 PM) neither. ...   Sep 12 2006, 05:28 PM
- - KarmaInferno   I'm just speculating about the depressingly co...   Sep 12 2006, 05:32 PM
- - Critias   So you really think one of the "in the club...   Sep 12 2006, 05:45 PM
- - JongWK   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) Beyond that, "spoil the ot...   Sep 12 2006, 05:49 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (JongWK) I know players -a lot of them- who ...   Sep 12 2006, 05:51 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (JongWK)Here's a thought: could it be th...   Sep 12 2006, 05:55 PM
- - knasser   QUOTE (KarmaInferno) I think racism as presented i...   Sep 12 2006, 05:57 PM
- - Witness   I do agree with Jong, but when I reflect back on m...   Sep 12 2006, 05:57 PM
- - Witness   QUOTE (knasser) Actually I was of the same opinion...   Sep 12 2006, 06:01 PM
- - eidolon   This may miss some things that have now been cover...   Sep 12 2006, 06:19 PM
- - mfb   QUOTE (eidolon)Perhaps, although it's arguable...   Sep 12 2006, 06:34 PM
- - eidolon   QUOTE (Karma Inferno)I think racism as presented i...   Sep 12 2006, 06:42 PM
- - mfb   QUOTE (eidolon)Simple. If one player wants to play...   Sep 12 2006, 06:48 PM
- - SL James   QUOTE (JongWK) QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Sep 12 200...   Sep 12 2006, 06:50 PM
- - hyzmarca   Yes, because because presidential and gubernatoria...   Sep 12 2006, 06:51 PM
- - mfb   Brackhaven is associated almost exclusivly with Hu...   Sep 12 2006, 06:56 PM
- - SL James   QUOTE (Arethusa)I would say the same sort of comic...   Sep 12 2006, 07:01 PM
- - SL James   QUOTE (eidolon @ Sep 12 2006, 12:16 AM) QUOTE...   Sep 12 2006, 07:10 PM
- - eidolon   Oh hell, I almost forgot. SL James, I owe you an ...   Sep 12 2006, 07:17 PM
- - SL James   QUOTE (Demonseed Elite @ Sep 12 2006, 08:24 A...   Sep 12 2006, 07:21 PM
- - JM Hardy   QUOTE (mfb)i don't see why racism is an issue ...   Sep 12 2006, 07:57 PM
- - Demonseed Elite   I have to say, I'm a little bit baffled. I see...   Sep 12 2006, 08:07 PM
- - SL James   Gee, wouldn't it be wonderful if racial tensio...   Sep 12 2006, 08:09 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (mfb)QUOTE (eidolon)Simple. If one player wa...   Sep 12 2006, 08:21 PM
- - Warmaster Lah   Sorry if this has been said before. But didn...   Sep 12 2006, 09:25 PM
- - SL James   People underwent SURGE? Hm... Could have fooled m...   Sep 12 2006, 09:29 PM
- - Lagomorph   To answer the topic's question of QUOTE Is Sh...   Sep 12 2006, 10:15 PM
- - mfb   QUOTE (JM Hardy)Is organlegging there yet? Does th...   Sep 12 2006, 10:20 PM
- - Witness   QUOTE (mfb @ Sep 12 2006, 05:20 PM) i'd l...   Sep 12 2006, 10:35 PM
- - Witness   Another thought just occurred. Writers tend to foc...   Sep 12 2006, 10:43 PM
- - Arethusa   Stop confusing drama with melodrama.   Sep 12 2006, 10:45 PM
- - Witness   Don't reckon I have. But it's a mighty thi...   Sep 12 2006, 10:47 PM
- - knasser   QUOTE (Demonseed Elite @ Sep 12 2006, 03:07 P...   Sep 12 2006, 11:04 PM
- - eidolon   QUOTE (SL James)Not learned city folk. But pretty ...   Sep 12 2006, 11:07 PM
- - mfb   i think James' point is that the Night of Rage...   Sep 12 2006, 11:31 PM
- - eidolon   And the civil rights movement is treated as histor...   Sep 12 2006, 11:34 PM
- - mfb   the civil rights movement is treated as history th...   Sep 12 2006, 11:56 PM
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