 Enhanced Aim + Dual Wielding Guns, What modifier applies? |
 Oct 21 2003, 05:31 AM
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One of my players raised an issue about whether the -#TN benefit from an Enhance Aim spell works with dual wielding guns.
I know SLs,scopes,lazers and other gunmods dont help when dual wielding and u get ur +2 TN for dual wielding plus damages plus vision mods.. But what if a mage cast a lvl 6 Enhance Aim with 6 successes riding behind it..so thats -3TN to the guy with dual guns. Does that -3TN apply to: A. Both attack tests (-3TN per gun) B.1. Only the first or the second (shooter choses) B.2. Only the first or the second (caster choses) C. Shooter choses to split the -3 inot maybe -2 and -1 or such? the spell isnt quite specific on this matter, so ... please help. |
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Fonitrus Enhanced Aim + Dual Wielding Guns Oct 21 2003, 05:31 AM
Kanada Ten I though it said every ranged attack... Ouch: That... Oct 21 2003, 05:52 AM FlakJacket Yeah, I'd say since it was a spell that's ... Oct 21 2003, 05:55 AM Fortune QUOTE (FlakJacket) Plus, just remember that as a s... Oct 21 2003, 06:15 AM Zazen Note also that this spell is resisted by the peopl... Oct 21 2003, 06:26 AM El_Machinae Wha-? Why? Oct 21 2003, 07:19 AM mfb it's a detection spell. detection spells are r... Oct 21 2003, 07:26 AM El_Machinae Crikey, you learn something new every day. We... Oct 21 2003, 07:37 AM FlakJacket QUOTE (El_Machinae)Crikey, you learn something new... Oct 21 2003, 10:12 AM El_Machinae Yes, yes I did. But you seem to be implying more ... Oct 21 2003, 11:14 AM Reaver Crikey was something Penfold always said to Danger... Oct 21 2003, 02:26 PM Sphynx Yeah, the Enhance Aim is very weak unless you have... Oct 21 2003, 02:54 PM Cochise Interesting considering tha fact that the maximum ... Oct 21 2003, 03:10 PM Sphynx Sheeze... forgot we House ruled that one to a max ... Oct 21 2003, 04:22 PM Cain I wouldn't call it munchkin; but if he tried i... Oct 21 2003, 05:28 PM BitBasher I was just typing that cain. Oct 21 2003, 05:40 PM Cochise QUOTE (Sphynx)Sheeze... forgot we House ruled that... Oct 21 2003, 05:52 PM Sphynx Not a Force 7 cause he uses Laser Sights.
The +... Oct 21 2003, 05:59 PM ialdabaoth Heh. He Used Centering, of course, right? Oct 21 2003, 07:07 PM Sphynx Center against what? Centering reduces penalties,... Oct 21 2003, 07:36 PM ialdabaoth You can also Center for extra successes, I believe... Oct 21 2003, 07:40 PM Sphynx Ah, good point, but I don't think he did. Cen... Oct 21 2003, 08:32 PM ialdabaoth I'd definitely allow centering with art, even ... Oct 21 2003, 08:58 PM OurTeam QUOTE (Cochise)3 re-rolls need a karma pool of at ... Oct 21 2003, 09:14 PM Cochise QUOTE (OurTeam) For rerolls our team uses 1+2+3 = ... Oct 21 2003, 09:35 PM Wireknight I ruled that Enhanced Aim doesn't need to be r... Oct 21 2003, 10:16 PM Kanada Ten I just roll once for the masses, and once again fo... Oct 21 2003, 10:51 PM Cain QUOTE (Sphynx) The +2 is for repeating failed atte... Oct 21 2003, 10:55 PM Lilt Except that you only ever need to bother if you sh... Oct 21 2003, 10:56 PM BitBasher Or Cain, make em pay karma during the casting befo... Oct 21 2003, 11:30 PM Sphynx So Cain, you adding +2 TN to your 2nd Mana Bolt ag... Oct 22 2003, 06:53 AM Zazen There's no problem if you don't house rule... Oct 22 2003, 03:21 PM Cain QUOTE (Sphynx) So Cain, you adding +2 TN to your 2... Oct 23 2003, 02:42 AM BitBasher Cain is entirely right on the TN thing by canon...... Oct 23 2003, 03:05 AM Sphynx Ok Cain, I'll pretend for a moment that what y... Oct 23 2003, 06:57 AM Sphynx Actually, on retrospect, my apologies to being ins... Oct 23 2003, 09:18 AM Cain Well, the +2 is by scene. Really, I apply it anyt... Oct 23 2003, 07:02 PM Sphynx As long as we both agree that a 'breather spac... Oct 23 2003, 07:07 PM Zazen QUOTE (Cain @ Oct 23 2003, 02:02 PM) Here... Oct 23 2003, 07:15 PM Cochise QUOTE (BitBasher)Cain is entirely right on the TN ... Oct 23 2003, 08:01 PM ialdabaoth Out of curiosity, what is the "Enhanced Aim... Oct 23 2003, 08:11 PM Sphynx Man, I did NOT want to ask that question cause it ... Oct 23 2003, 08:17 PM Cochise @ ialdabaoth
p. 141 Magic in the Shadows ... A de... Oct 23 2003, 08:21 PM Sphynx QUOTE (ialdabaoth) Out of curiosity, what is the ... Oct 23 2003, 08:21 PM Cochise QUOTE (Sphynx)(at least now we'll both look du... Oct 23 2003, 08:24 PM ialdabaoth Nice. So you could make an orichalcum bow/sustaini... Oct 23 2003, 08:36 PM Zazen Even better, an orichalcum penis ring so that writ... Oct 23 2003, 08:40 PM Siege Uh oh, I'll head off the inevitable: adept wit... Oct 23 2003, 08:44 PM Lilt The focus must be kept in contact with the spell, ... Oct 23 2003, 09:07 PM Cain QUOTE I'm curious, do you actually apply a +2 ... Oct 24 2003, 01:19 AM Zazen QUOTE (Cain @ Oct 23 2003, 08:19 PM) Consider... Oct 24 2003, 01:32 AM mfb well, in that case, the +2 for the manabolt also o... Oct 24 2003, 01:49 AM Kanada Ten QUOTE When that happens in your game, is the +2 mo... Oct 24 2003, 01:54 AM Cain QUOTE (Zazen) QUOTE (Cain @ Oct 23 2003, 08:1... Oct 24 2003, 06:12 AM Zazen It seems to me that you've never actually impl... Oct 24 2003, 07:04 AM Sphynx So.... did anyone find this reference in the books... Oct 24 2003, 08:55 AM Fortune It is in the books as a canon rule. No quote thoug... Oct 24 2003, 10:37 AM Cochise QUOTE (Fortune) It is in the books as a canon rule... Oct 24 2003, 10:51 AM TinkerGnome I scoured the BBB for a mention of a frustration m... Oct 24 2003, 01:05 PM spotlite QUOTE (Reaver) Crikey was something Penfold always... Oct 24 2003, 04:50 PM BitBasher I admit it's entirely possible that this rule ... Oct 24 2003, 04:57 PM BitBasher I admit it's entirely possible that this rule ... Oct 24 2003, 05:07 PM Shadow That's a cool way at looking at that rule Cain... Oct 24 2003, 05:09 PM spotlite I think tinkergnome is right. the +2 rule still ex... Oct 24 2003, 05:18 PM BitBasher QUOTE However, it's not really likely that you... Oct 24 2003, 05:21 PM spotlite QUOTE (BitBasher) QUOTE However, it's not real... Oct 24 2003, 05:24 PM Cain And in those cases, the other guy is still likely ... Oct 24 2003, 05:35 PM BitBasher QUOTE Yeah, but then you got smartlinks or zoom vi... Oct 24 2003, 09:04 PM Fortune QUOTE (Cochise) Then may I request with due respec... Oct 25 2003, 12:49 AM Shadow QUOTE (BitBasher) QUOTE Yeah, but then you got sma... Oct 25 2003, 01:01 AM BitBasher Yes I know, I wasn't arguing, just reiterating... Oct 25 2003, 04:06 AM Cochise QUOTE (Fortune) Sure, but you'll probably be w... Oct 25 2003, 07:14 PM spotlite QUOTE (Shadow) QUOTE (BitBasher @ Oct 24 2003... Oct 25 2003, 11:40 PM spotlite Also, with regard the idea of a F10 enhance aim sp... Oct 25 2003, 11:46 PM BitBasher QUOTE Runner has smartlink 2, and is for the sake ... Oct 26 2003, 02:13 AM Siege Idle question Bit -- do you use the 3rd edition In... Oct 26 2003, 03:52 AM BitBasher 3rd edition initiative pass system since a little ... Oct 26 2003, 05:06 AM spotlite
You're absolutely right. I had read it wrong... Oct 26 2003, 11:35 AM
BitBasher You don't round anywhere by canon rules, 7... Oct 26 2003, 05:40 PM  |
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