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Garrowolf
post Oct 10 2006, 09:36 AM
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I was wondering if anyone had any ideas for a martial arts system for 4th ed.

Personally I hated the maneuvers in 3rd ed. I would prefer a series of skills which would cover the general effect as opposed to each maneuver listed.

I was thinking sort of an effects based game so that you would need rules for individual martial arts. (ie no Judo skill but maybe a Grappling skill)

I wanted it to stay quick like the rest of the system but cover more then I punch/kick you for more damage.

Any thoughts?
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- Garrowolf   Martial Arts   Oct 10 2006, 09:36 AM
- - Dread Polack   Personally, as I don't have very detailed know...   Oct 10 2006, 02:18 PM
- - lorechaser   It's going to have to be complicated to be use...   Oct 10 2006, 03:09 PM
- - Mistwalker   Isn't Arsenal supposed to have updated rules f...   Oct 10 2006, 03:19 PM
- - James McMurray   Hopefully they'll clarify that the +2 speciali...   Oct 10 2006, 03:27 PM
- - GWCarver   You don't really need a system. Any practical...   Oct 10 2006, 03:28 PM
- - Ryu   The specialisation of MA does not apply while tryi...   Oct 10 2006, 04:10 PM
- - lorechaser   GWC: Good point. I'd feel better conceptually...   Oct 10 2006, 04:33 PM
- - kzt   QUOTE (Ryu) The specialisation of MA does not appl...   Oct 10 2006, 04:40 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   One still can truly hope that the abomination of m...   Oct 10 2006, 04:57 PM
- - Demerzel   Just because I feel like being pedantic, MA wont w...   Oct 10 2006, 05:25 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   No, Unarmed (Parrying) is a specialization that is...   Oct 10 2006, 05:31 PM
- - GWCarver   People seem to be getting confused between what th...   Oct 10 2006, 07:04 PM
- - MadDogMaddux   gimme a bit and I'll post the basic Martial Ar...   Oct 10 2006, 07:28 PM
- - Demerzel   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig) No, Unarmed (Parrying) ...   Oct 10 2006, 07:40 PM
- - James McMurray   In English (i.e. not Rules speak) "Parry...   Oct 10 2006, 07:49 PM
- - Demerzel   But parry and block are specifically defined in Sh...   Oct 10 2006, 07:58 PM
- - James McMurray   Or it points to seperate authors using the same id...   Oct 10 2006, 08:00 PM
- - Demerzel   You'll note that I gave fair warning that I ch...   Oct 10 2006, 08:18 PM
- - Walknuki   Why would you even need a seperate system for Mart...   Oct 10 2006, 08:38 PM
- - MadDogMaddux   OK, below is the list of CBT:RPG Martial Arts and ...   Oct 10 2006, 08:42 PM
- - PBTHHHHT   Booo, hissss, the list doesn't even cover some...   Oct 10 2006, 08:46 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (Demerzel)But parry and block are specifical...   Oct 10 2006, 08:50 PM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (PBTHHHHT) C'mon what about Lohan style?...   Oct 10 2006, 08:53 PM
- - GrinderTheTroll   QUOTE (Walknuki) Why would you even need a seperat...   Oct 10 2006, 09:00 PM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE (Demerzel) If you're going to bemoan the...   Oct 10 2006, 09:05 PM
- - Demerzel   QUOTE (James McMurray) I was saying your position ...   Oct 10 2006, 09:15 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...and no mention about good old fashioned Boxing....   Oct 10 2006, 09:23 PM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE (Demerzel) QUOTE (James McMurray @ Oct ...   Oct 10 2006, 09:28 PM
- - Demerzel   QUOTE (James McMurray)I think only the most anal o...   Oct 10 2006, 09:54 PM
- - PBTHHHHT   QUOTE (Fortune @ Oct 10 2006, 03:53 PM) QUOTE...   Oct 10 2006, 10:02 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Demerzel @ Oct 10 2006, 03:54 PM) QUOT...   Oct 10 2006, 10:30 PM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE (Demerzel)You are assuming my position is th...   Oct 10 2006, 11:54 PM
- - Demerzel   QUOTE (James McMurray) You told someone not to tak...   Oct 11 2006, 12:23 AM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Demerzel) I also would recomend noone ever ...   Oct 11 2006, 12:26 AM
- - Demerzel   I was thinking more along the lines of a military ...   Oct 11 2006, 12:51 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (PBTHHHHT)Oh yeah, watch out for the hair gr...   Oct 11 2006, 12:56 AM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE (Demerzel) You took that quote to the extrem...   Oct 11 2006, 02:02 AM
- - twilite   How hard would it be to just change the specializa...   Oct 11 2006, 02:50 AM
- - PBTHHHHT   QUOTE (Kyoto Kid @ Oct 10 2006, 07:56 PM) QUO...   Oct 11 2006, 03:59 AM
- - Garrowolf   I think that it would be better to have a few skil...   Oct 11 2006, 04:07 AM
- - Demerzel   QUOTE (James McMurray)If someone says "X is i...   Oct 11 2006, 04:15 AM
- - kzt   QUOTE (Garrowolf) Linear Strikes - Strikes design...   Oct 11 2006, 04:22 AM
- - Demerzel   And for the record I advocate any given real world...   Oct 11 2006, 04:23 AM
- - Ryu   The editing of SR4 is good. "Parry" shou...   Oct 11 2006, 06:48 AM
- - Inu   My own martial rules, borrowed from my friend...   Oct 11 2006, 07:05 AM
- - Glyph   QUOTE (Ryu)The editing of SR4 is good. "Parry...   Oct 11 2006, 07:29 AM
- - Ryu   QUOTE (Glyph)It's like having "pointy...   Oct 11 2006, 09:53 AM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (Demerzel) I stand by the fact that while Pa...   Oct 11 2006, 10:07 AM
- - Demerzel   SO Rotbart you would say that PArry is a valid spe...   Oct 11 2006, 01:50 PM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE I stand by the fact that while Parry is list...   Oct 11 2006, 02:00 PM
- - lorechaser   QUOTE (kzt) I think this makes it cost far too muc...   Oct 11 2006, 03:08 PM
- - knasser   Fucking Hell. Any people who can carry on an argum...   Oct 11 2006, 07:06 PM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE (knasser) Fucking Hell. Any people who can c...   Oct 11 2006, 07:20 PM
- - PBTHHHHT   And for another insight, what is a block? Because...   Oct 11 2006, 08:18 PM
- - GrinderTheTroll   QUOTE (PBTHHHHT) And for another insight, what is ...   Oct 11 2006, 08:56 PM
- - PBTHHHHT   That's what I was trying to say.   Oct 11 2006, 10:37 PM
- - GrinderTheTroll   QUOTE (PBTHHHHT) That's what I was trying to s...   Oct 11 2006, 10:45 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (Demerzel) SO Rotbart you would say that PAr...   Oct 11 2006, 11:11 PM
- - James McMurray   We see it as the opposite, that it will help in pr...   Oct 12 2006, 12:31 AM
- - mfb   here's how i'd do it in SR4. make maneuver...   Oct 12 2006, 12:50 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...sounds fair to me.   Oct 12 2006, 01:06 AM
- - Garrowolf   QUOTE (Inu) 'unarmed combat' is a unique s...   Oct 12 2006, 03:15 AM
- - Garrowolf   I don't like the ideas of manuevers because th...   Oct 12 2006, 03:27 AM
- - kzt   QUOTE (Garrowolf) I also disagree with the argumen...   Oct 12 2006, 03:54 AM
- - Garrowolf   Actually I was thinking that you could replace Una...   Oct 12 2006, 04:11 AM
- - Fortune   As opposed to leaving it as it is, and using vario...   Oct 12 2006, 04:22 AM
- - Garrowolf   QUOTE Seems like a lot of work to go to to ultimat...   Oct 12 2006, 05:02 AM
- - Demerzel   The thing is the one flavor provided is infinite f...   Oct 12 2006, 05:22 AM
- - G.NOME   Going back to that CBT:RPG post, it was really fun...   Oct 12 2006, 09:10 AM
- - lorechaser   QUOTE (Demerzel) The thing is the one flavor provi...   Oct 12 2006, 03:34 PM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE (lorechaser @ Oct 12 2006, 10:34 AM) Be...   Oct 12 2006, 03:50 PM
- - Demerzel   QUOTE (lorechaser)Not an advantage, but a differen...   Oct 12 2006, 04:56 PM
- - lorechaser   I'd argue that firearms already have manuevers...   Oct 12 2006, 06:13 PM
- - Demerzel   Then at best you should be talking aboujt changes ...   Oct 12 2006, 06:41 PM
- - James McMurray   An exact mirror situation between two sets of rule...   Oct 12 2006, 06:49 PM
- - lorechaser   QUOTE (Demerzel) Then at best you should be talkin...   Oct 12 2006, 07:13 PM
- - PBTHHHHT   Hmmm... these maneuver options aren't too bad....   Oct 12 2006, 08:02 PM
- - lorechaser   That's the idea - I don't want them to pro...   Oct 12 2006, 08:12 PM
- - PBTHHHHT   Some name alternatives for your maneuvers... Q...   Oct 12 2006, 08:31 PM
- - lorechaser   QUOTE (long narrow burst) Overwhelming Force (Una...   Oct 12 2006, 08:41 PM
- - Garrowolf   One of the things that I added was melee and unarm...   Oct 13 2006, 05:16 AM
- - lorechaser   Is there also a penalty for doing so, or is it sim...   Oct 13 2006, 05:27 PM
- - Garrowolf   it's a bonus.   Oct 14 2006, 09:15 AM
- - Inu   QUOTE (Garrowolf) I really like this idea. This ma...   Oct 14 2006, 01:00 PM
- - knasser   QUOTE (knasser @ Oct 11 2006, 02:06 PM) If yo...   Oct 14 2006, 01:17 PM
- - Garrowolf   Um.. I could see a specialization in kicking negat...   Oct 15 2006, 09:03 AM
- - knasser   QUOTE (Garrowolf)Besides computer hackers have 7 o...   Oct 15 2006, 09:47 AM
- - Garrowolf   This is the system I decided to use. I know that t...   Oct 16 2006, 05:50 AM
- - PBTHHHHT   Ok, so some correlations would be? I know it...   Oct 16 2006, 02:07 PM
- - Garrowolf   Well Some martial arts would have just one skill t...   Oct 18 2006, 04:17 AM


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