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Slamm-O
post Oct 18 2006, 12:07 AM
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in my game it seems as though the mage is overpowerd in the 'legwork phase' of our runs, he always seems to be able to go into astral and find out whats going on inside of any building/meet/facility. I normally only use wards on the 'treasure' room, the final objective, since i got the impression they were rare/expensive, am i correct or should i ward off whole buildings?

also i will try to use watchers, but i am fuzzy on whether watchers automatically see a runner or whether he can do astral stealth tests to sneak by them and observe, or whether he just has to count on them failing their intelligence test to report back or whatever. Is there a way to use watchers without making them totally screw over his astral recon like some sort of deus ex machina?

also what info can i limit? obviously he cant check digital data, nor read, but how about listening?

the current situation is that another team is going to be raiding the building the runners are in, and id like the ones near the buildings entrance to have a chance to hide from the other team, but they may think im softballing if the other guys dont astral recon, but if i have them do so without my players even knowing they are coming how to make them not auto-detected by the astral scout?
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- Slamm-O   limiting/gimping astral recon?   Oct 18 2006, 12:07 AM
- - fistandantilus3.0   You can still use stealth to sneak past astral gua...   Oct 18 2006, 12:22 AM
- - Dog   Don't forget that in the sixth world, anybody ...   Oct 18 2006, 01:08 AM
- - Kalvan   Besides, there's also such a thing as Matrix r...   Oct 18 2006, 02:52 AM
- - eidolon   QUOTE (Kalvan) Besides, there's also such a th...   Oct 18 2006, 03:21 AM
- - RunnerPaul   QUOTE (Slamm-O) I normally only use wards on the ...   Oct 18 2006, 07:59 AM
- - Edward   If all the legwork needed is a scouting of the fac...   Oct 18 2006, 08:28 AM
- - Ryu   First, the mage needs to remember what he saw. A l...   Oct 18 2006, 03:22 PM
- - fistandantilus3.0   Remember also that if they run in to an elemental ...   Oct 18 2006, 03:27 PM
- - nezumi   I personally have greatly decreased the distance a...   Oct 18 2006, 03:46 PM
- - Lagomorph   Use matrix meetings, astral people can't spy o...   Oct 18 2006, 06:07 PM
- - toturi   Background Count.   Oct 19 2006, 02:06 AM
- - Wounded Ronin   Perhaps this makes the case for injecting more ran...   Oct 19 2006, 03:23 AM
- - Edward   QUOTE (fistandantilus3.0) Remember also that if th...   Oct 19 2006, 04:47 AM
- - Ryu   So now the intelligent and most capable Watcher do...   Oct 19 2006, 09:30 AM
- - Pendaric   Shedim   Oct 19 2006, 12:22 PM
- - eidolon   QUOTE (Edward)Ever noticed the suspicious number o...   Oct 19 2006, 01:58 PM
- - RainOfSteel   QUOTE (Slamm-O) also what info can i limit? obviou...   Oct 19 2006, 04:15 PM
- - nezumi   I have to strenuously disagree with your reading o...   Oct 19 2006, 05:34 PM
- - eidolon   Speech and sounds are the same to the astrally pro...   Oct 19 2006, 05:57 PM
- - RainOfSteel   QUOTE (nezumi)I have to strenuously disagree with ...   Oct 19 2006, 11:35 PM
- - RainOfSteel   QUOTE (eidolon)Speech and sounds are the same to t...   Oct 19 2006, 11:36 PM
- - Crusher Bob   This is what you get an orientation systemfor., yo...   Oct 20 2006, 10:33 AM
- - Ryu   SR4, pg. 181, right column, heading "The astr...   Oct 20 2006, 01:02 PM
- - eidolon   QUOTE (RainOfSteel)QUOTE (eidolon)Speech and sound...   Oct 20 2006, 01:39 PM
- - nezumi   I still stand by my original statement. The parag...   Oct 20 2006, 02:21 PM
- - Demonseed Elite   Yeah, in SR4, Ryu is correct. In SR4, physical sen...   Oct 20 2006, 02:24 PM
- - eidolon   QUOTE (Demonseed Elite)I know things were a bit fu...   Oct 20 2006, 02:30 PM
- - Straight Razor   strain III   Oct 20 2006, 06:34 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Strain II. ~J   Oct 20 2006, 06:39 PM
- - Ryu   SR4 was the best I could do, and thankfully the an...   Oct 20 2006, 08:28 PM
- - hyzmarca   Yes, horrific spirits that could tear you apart at...   Oct 20 2006, 09:46 PM
- - Dog   Slamm-O, what sort of information are the astrally...   Oct 20 2006, 10:58 PM
- - Ryu   Calm down hyzmarca, calm down. Just a few enterpri...   Oct 21 2006, 01:29 AM
- - Angelone   Why not have astral security everywhere? In my min...   Oct 21 2006, 03:42 AM
- - Ryu   Astral security does achive nothing if you are not...   Oct 21 2006, 10:26 AM
- - RainOfSteel   QUOTE (eidolon) QUOTE (RainOfSteel) QUOTE (eidolon...   Oct 21 2006, 06:06 PM
- - eidolon   QUOTE (RainOfSteel)I did note that. When reading t...   Oct 22 2006, 04:28 AM
- - RainOfSteel   QUOTE (eidolon) The fact that you have to attach n...   Oct 22 2006, 05:16 PM
- - Fortune   I think you'll find that the statement you are...   Oct 22 2006, 10:45 PM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (RainOfSteel) Physical things are intangible...   Oct 22 2006, 10:50 PM
- - Wounded Ronin   This thread has a lot of different facts and inter...   Oct 22 2006, 11:05 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (hyzmarca) So is light but you can still ...   Oct 22 2006, 11:07 PM
- - Ryu   And true to tradition, the executive summary is ba...   Oct 22 2006, 11:31 PM
- - eidolon   QUOTE (RainOfSteel)I choose not to disregard the e...   Oct 23 2006, 02:51 AM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Oct 22 2...   Oct 23 2006, 03:30 AM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (hyzmarca) They are not different at all. ...   Oct 23 2006, 04:28 AM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) The presence of an astral versi...   Oct 23 2006, 04:40 AM
- - hyzmarca   The assumption that if physical matter interacts w...   Oct 23 2006, 06:36 AM


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